Toni
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Really depends on what public school system you are talking about. I know some excellent ones. And some pretty piss poor privates.No, because not everybody is either white or black.
For example: Asian people exist. Do they need to have "the talk" about how to behave around police to avoid getting killed by racist police?
If so, and if every other group who isn't white and no significant subset of white people need to have that talk, then yes, that is a case of white privilege.
Otherwise, it's just a case of black disadvantage.
Hey, guys look over there! Asians aren't similar to blacks in one minute detail!
So the repeated instances of police brutality against resulting in deaths that happens against Black people, but not against Asian people is one minute detail?
If it is so unimportant, why does it keep getting brought up in discussions of White Privilege?
What exactly were all of the BLM protests about then?
That means white privilege doesn't exist! Adorable.
No, it means that white privilege is a shitty way to frame the problem specified, assuming that the solution that you are looking for is to remove black disadvantage and give them the same baseline rights and conditions that white people do, as opposed to blaming the problems of everyone who isn't white on white people.
How's about we talk about white privilege over Asain's then?
Here's a start. Name 4 well-known Asian American's that aren't known for martial arts? You have all of American History to choose from.
Easy:
George Takei, Andrew Yang, Ken Jeong, Sandra Oh, Michio Kaku....
I can keep going. Should I keep going? I haven't even listed any Youtubers, Twitch streamers or e-sports celebrities yet.
Just because your local circle of friends think of Asians as kung-fu fodder doesn't mean everyone else shares your limited view of Asians.
After you google them, note the historic discrimination against Asians by, -surprised pikachu- privileged white people.
Asians are still struggling with racism themselves these days (in many cases from Black People). They've had/have advantages themselves but that by no means indicates the absence of white privilege. The fact there aren't a lot of well-known prominent Asain figures is telling. Especially considering that all non-white Americans becoming American citizens just for being born on American soil was solidified over an Asian.
Yes, Asian people also suffer from disadvantages in society. Some of them are even caused by white people.
They are different from those that are experienced by black people.
If you actually want to solve the problems of black disadvantage and Asian disadvantage, then recognizing that they are different problems with different solutions is a first step.
But, of course, it's more fun and easier to blame the evil white people for all of the evil.
I'm sure working to remove "White Privilege" will fix the problem.
I'm sure that if we just have some more fatal police brutalities against white people and make it so that white people also have to "have the talk" about dealing with police, it will start to make everything better for everyone, because we will have chipped away at white privilege, which is the core problem that we are trying to solve from which all other race relations problems flow.
No? That's not how it works?
No shit. That's why "White Privilege" is a stupid framework for actually trying to solve these issues. If you mean "black disadvantage" then say "black disadvantage". Some of those disadvantages are even caused by white people. Imagine that.
Like holy shit why was that never mentioned throughout my 9 years in public schools?
Because public school in America sucks. This is another problem with another solution.
But all this is not my point. What I'm really saying is if you're going to argue white privileged doesn't exist it's silly to exclude Whites then use a comparison between Asians & Blacks as the basis for that argument.
No, I'm arguing that "White Privilege" is a poor framework for solving race-based problems and a good framework for race-baiting against white people, which nicely explains why there are plenty of race-based problems going unsolved and plenty of race-baiting against the evil whites and their whitely evilness.
I think that white privilege is a term that makes it difficult to swallow for some white people—especially those whose families struggled financially and perhaps in other ways as well. Speaking fir myself, I don’t see the fact that I can walk into pretty much any establishment and expect to be welcomed or at least not treated like a crimson as privilege. I think it’s just how everyone should be treated. I think that the fact I did not have to worry about my sons being brutalized or killed by police in a routine traffic stop is just how it should be for everyone—not privilege.the fact that I was generally accepted as having earned whatever good things came my way? Not privilege but how everyone should be treated.