Delivering For FedEx While Black

[TomC]

Maybe the perps did not notice their victim was a Black guy.

Maybe the reason this thread exists is because modern USA racists are mostly racist against wypepo.
And that's about as culturally supported as racism against niggers was 60 years ago.
Tom

 

[Rhea]

Tom, can you please name a hypothetical scenario where it would have justified ALL OF the following actions:

1. Case used his pickup truck in an attempt to block the vehicle from exiting the drive,
2. Brandon Case was standing in the roadway with a handgun pointed at the driver of the vehicle.
3. Brandon Case then allegedly joined his father in the pickup and the two chased the delivery truck, with Brandon firing repeatedly at the truck.

A gun is a deadly weapon. So any time someone points one, it should only be for a scenario where death is justifiable. Any time anyone pulls a trigger, doubly so. So what possible scenario do you envision, that the case's knew for certain, that justified the death of the delivery driver?

Luckily the driver is not dead, but for the Cases to act as they did, they needed a justification that would have warranted him being dead.


Notwithstanding the follow-up discussion; if the FedEx driver had a gun, he would have been justified in shooting and killing the people who were firing bullets at him, correct? Correct?

 

[Rhea]

Maybe the reason this thread exists is because modern USA racists are mostly racist against wypepo.
And that's about as culturally supported as racism against niggers was 60 years ago.
Tom

Surely you recognize that the "racism against wypepo" is not deadly or even particularly impactful?
SURELY you recognize this? And that it is not in any way equivalent to 1960s racism again Black people? This was just distracting hyperbole, right?

 

[TomC]

In your first post, you made a point of abstaining from making any judgment.

I'm having trouble telling whether you're being stupid, ignorant, or deliberately insulting. Deliberately insulting seems most likely.

At the beginning of this thread, I thought it was so obvious that shooting at the driver of a moving vehicle is immoral and illegal and everything else that I didn't need to specify that part. It never entered my mind that there was a question about that.

In my mind, the question is "Was this a racist crime?" Since nobody has posted evidence that it was, I'm now assuming that it wasn't. Open to new evidence should I notice any.

But since I've been insulted more than informed in this thread, I'm unlikely to pay much attention to evidence provided by other posters here. Why would I pay attention to the opinions of someone who thinks I'm OK with street shootings?
Tom

 

[Toni]

Yeah, I bet that's it.

The depth of your insight is an inspiration to us all.
Tom

You get that he agreed with you, right?

 

[Elixir]

 

[Toni]

Maybe the perps did not notice their victim was a Black guy.

Maybe the reason this thread exists is because modern USA racists are mostly racist against wypepo.
And that's about as culturally supported as racism against niggers was 60 years ago.
Tom

It is really really sad that you believe this. Complete with wypepo, no less.

Snowflakes melting down looks like tears to me.

 

[Trausti]

Maybe the perps did not notice their victim was a Black guy.

Maybe the reason this thread exists is because modern USA racists are mostly racist against wypepo.
And that's about as culturally supported as racism against niggers was 60 years ago.
Tom

It is really really sad that you believe this. Complete with wypepo, no less.

Snowflakes melting down looks like tears to me.

Kinda is true. White people (so long as they’re not trans, who are sacred) are the only group against whom public animus is permissible. Like when Nick Cannon said Jews control the world and White people act evil because they lack melanin. He had to apologize for his Jews comment but his dehumanizing of White people was ignored.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Maybe the perps did not notice their victim was a Black guy.

Maybe the reason this thread exists is because modern USA racists are mostly racist against wypepo.
And that's about as culturally supported as racism against niggers was 60 years ago.
Tom

Tell me about it. I'm afraid that some day I will shoot up some innocent Black guy's truck and someone will make a thread about it accurately labeled "Driving While Black," too. That's reverse racialism because maybe I unjustifiably thought the innocent Black guy was a criminal. And certainly I ought to be entitled to shoot up his car like in the olden days. Totally not fair what is happening to my country. My victimhood is worse than the Holocaust.

 

[Rhea]

I thought it was so obvious that shooting at the driver of a moving vehicle is immoral and illegal and everything else that I didn't need to specify that part. It never entered my mind that there was a question about that.

You forgot about Poe. And several posters on this board who would have argued that it was justified, because "he could have used his truck as a weapon" or something - as they have many times in the past.

 

[Rhea]

White people (so long as they’re not trans, who are sacred) are the only group against whom public animus is permissible.

This is absurd. Don't peddle this claptrap. Oh, poor white people, they're the "only ones WANH WANH!" that you can be mean to!

Watching you erase all the other people who are subject to public animus and claiming victimhood is absurd. There are millions of daily acts of animus against women, the disabled, gay people, and yes, people of color; that vastly outnumber what white people, especially white men face. But please, tell me how awful it is to see a thread title on the internet that accuses a white guy you've never met of racism.

That sounds so horrific!

 

[laughing dog]

Tom

In your first post, you made a point of abstaining from making any judgment.

I'm having trouble telling whether you're being stupid, ignorant, or deliberately insulting. Deliberately insulting seems most likely.

Of course you are having trouble because it is clear you do not pay attention to the actual content in your posts instead of what you think is in your mind. In your post #8, you made no judgment and pointed out you were waiting for more information. Later on in the thread, when pushed, you came out against the shooting.

That is a fact whether you wish to acknowledge or not.

At the beginning of this thread, I thought it was so obvious that shooting at the driver of a moving vehicle is immoral and illegal and everything else that I didn't need to specify that part. It never entered my mind that there was a question about that.

If you say so.

In my mind, the question is "Was this a racist crime?" Since nobody has posted evidence that it was, I'm now assuming that it wasn't. Open to new evidence should I notice any.

But since I've been insulted more than informed in this thread, I'm unlikely to pay much attention to evidence provided by other posters here. Why would I pay attention to the opinions of someone who thinks I'm OK with street shootings?
Tom

Let's get this straight. You directly insulted numerous posters. No one has directly insulted you but you are insulted because posters responded to the actual content of your post.

Someone call the waambulance.

 

[Trausti]

White people (so long as they’re not trans, who are sacred) are the only group against whom public animus is permissible.

This is absurd. Don't peddle this claptrap. Oh, poor white people, they're the "only ones WANH WANH!" that you can be mean to!

Watching you erase all the other people who are subject to public animus and claiming victimhood is absurd. There are millions of daily acts of animus against women, the disabled, gay people, and yes, people of color; that vastly outnumber what white people, especially white men face. But please, tell me how awful it is to see a thread title on the internet that accuses a white guy you've never met of racism.

That sounds so horrific!

If you express public animus against these groups you risk cancellation, loss of job, ostracism. Not true if do it against straight White people, especially men. Pretty astonishing how anyone could deny that.

 

[Toni]

White people (so long as they’re not trans, who are sacred) are the only group against whom public animus is permissible.

This is absurd. Don't peddle this claptrap. Oh, poor white people, they're the "only ones WANH WANH!" that you can be mean to!

Watching you erase all the other people who are subject to public animus and claiming victimhood is absurd. There are millions of daily acts of animus against women, the disabled, gay people, and yes, people of color; that vastly outnumber what white people, especially white men face. But please, tell me how awful it is to see a thread title on the internet that accuses a white guy you've never met of racism.

That sounds so horrific!

If you express public animus against these groups you risk cancellation, loss of job, ostracism. Not true if do it against straight White people, especially men. Pretty astonishing how anyone could deny that.

It’s harder to see your description of white men being ‘cancelled’ if you notice the power structure in the United States, from the federal government all the way through small town city councils. Not to mention the police departments, the billionaire class, Hollywood, the music industry—industry, period! Education, news media, publishing, and so on.

Sure, white men are now facing some harsher scrutiny and open criticism but their grasp on power seems pretty firm to me.

 

[laughing dog]

White people (so long as they’re not trans, who are sacred) are the only group against whom public animus is permissible.

This is absurd. Don't peddle this claptrap. Oh, poor white people, they're the "only ones WANH WANH!" that you can be mean to!

Watching you erase all the other people who are subject to public animus and claiming victimhood is absurd. There are millions of daily acts of animus against women, the disabled, gay people, and yes, people of color; that vastly outnumber what white people, especially white men face. But please, tell me how awful it is to see a thread title on the internet that accuses a white guy you've never met of racism.

That sounds so horrific!

If you express public animus against these groups you risk cancellation, loss of job, ostracism. Not true if do it against straight White people, especially men.

Sigh
Black employee fired for "rude ass white people" comment.

 

[laughing dog]

White people (so long as they’re not trans, who are sacred) are the only group against whom public animus is permissible.

This is absurd. Don't peddle this claptrap. Oh, poor white people, they're the "only ones WANH WANH!" that you can be mean to!

Watching you erase all the other people who are subject to public animus and claiming victimhood is absurd. There are millions of daily acts of animus against women, the disabled, gay people, and yes, people of color; that vastly outnumber what white people, especially white men face. But please, tell me how awful it is to see a thread title on the internet that accuses a white guy you've never met of racism.

That sounds so horrific!

If you express public animus against these groups you risk cancellation, loss of job, ostracism. Not true if do it against straight White people, especially men. Pretty astonishing how anyone could deny that.

It’s harder to see your description of white men being ‘cancelled’ if you notice the power structure in the United States, from the federal government all the way through small town city councils. Not to mention the police departments, the billionaire class, Hollywood, the music industry—industry, period! Education, news media, publishing, and so on.

Sure, white men are now facing some harsher scrutiny and open criticism but their grasp on power seems pretty firm to me.

You don't get it. White penises shrink when they feel threatened.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I honestly believe that there's a sort of industry built around manufacturing racism to get people upset about. It sells media, so it's quite profitable.
BLM is a subsidiary.
Tom

Businesses have subsidiaries, industries don't.

Other than that I agree with you.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

"White guys started threatening and shooting at a black guy for delivering a package" isn't a plausible explanation, at least not to me. That simplistic explanation might satisfy a racial ideologue, but I'm not one. I'm sure that there's more to the story. And I'm also confident that at least part of the blame is the driver's. Your assumption that he's an innocent victim of racism doesn't strike me as plausible.
Tom

Except it doesn't take an actual wrong by the black guy, just a perceived wrong. Perhaps looking around for the best place to leave a package being interpreted as casing the place. Some delivery drivers are conscientious enough to look for sheltered, hidden locations to put a package.

 

[southernhybrid]

https://wapo.st/3rIbkVI

A White father and son in Mississippi were charged this week after they were accused of chasing and shooting at a Black FedEx driver in an incident that the driver’s attorney says was a “copycat crime” of the murder of Ahmaud Arbery.

FedEx driver D’Monterrio Gibson said he was delivering packages on his route in Brookhaven, Miss., on Jan. 24 when two White men with whom he had not interacted chased him in a pickup truck for about seven minutes and fired at least five shots at the van he was driving.
Gibson, who said he was driving a Hertz van at the time but was in his full FedEx uniform, told reporters Thursday that he believes that Brandon Case and his father, Gregory Case, chased and shot at him because he is Black and thought he didn’t belong in the neighborhood.
“They came out of nowhere,” Gibson said at a news conference. The 24-year-old driver, who was not injured in the incident, added, “Even if [the van] was unmarked, civilians still can’t take the law into their own hands.”

It sure looks like the two white idiots shot at the Black delivery man due to their racism. The linked article should be available for all for at least the next two weeks.

I'm calling them idiots, not because they appear to be racist assholes, but because they were really stupid if they thought they could get away with committing a copy cat crime similar to the Arbery case. Luckily, they didn't kill their intended victim.

Gibson and his attorneys are calling for a federal hate-crimes probe, saying local police are not taking the case seriously. The father and son were arrested Feb. 1, more than a week after the incident, Carlos E. Moore, one of Gibson’s attorneys, told The Washington Post. Brandon Case, 35, was charged with feloniously attempting to cause bodily injury with a firearm and a deadly weapon, stemming from allegedly shooting at a vehicle with Gibson inside, according to court records. Gregory Case, 58, was charged with unlawfully and feloniously conspiring with his son to commit aggravated assault, records show.
Moore said that his client did nothing wrong before the Cases chased and shot at him but “was simply Black while working.” The attorney said the incident echoed the case of Arbery, the 25-year-old Black man who was murdered in Georgia in 2020 after three White men pursued him in pickup trucks while Arbery was jogging.
“It was clearly a copycat crime,” Moore said, adding that he has urged the Justice Department and FBI to look into the case. “These people tried to be copycats, and that’s why we need full justice, not Mississippi justice. This man went to work, and they attacked him like he was a wild animal.”

Nothing more needs to be said.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

What I find compelling is no public defense via the Case’s lawyer(s?).

No calls of self defense or chasing a suspected criminal. Yet the same usual people trying to justify or gray area a failed lynching.