Running for mayor while white

[Derec]

Louisville mayoral candidate targeted in campaign headquarters shooting, authorities say

A Democratic candidate for mayor in Louisville, Kentucky, was the target of a shooting Monday morning at his campaign headquarters, authorities said.
Democrat Craig Greenberg was the target of the shooting in the city's Butchertown neighborhood, Louisville Metropolitan Police Department Chief Erika Shields said, adding that although there were no injuries in the incident, a round did appear to strike Greenberg's clothing.
Quintez Brown, 21, has been charged with attempted murder and four counts of wanton endangerment in the first degree in connection with the shooting, according to Louisville Metro Police Department Public Information Officer Elizabeth Ruoff.

CNN fails to mention it (I wonder why), but Quintez Brown is a #BLM activist in Louisville. Here is what WDRB wrote about Q last year:
UPDATE: Louisville columnist and activist Quintez Brown found safe

Brown, who has been active with Black Lives Matter Louisville and the University of Louisville's Youth Violence Prevention Research Center, spoke to WDRB News in June of 2020 after demonstrating in downtown Louisville daily to voice his frustrations with how black people have been policed throughout the country.
He also spoke out in 2019 about his discomfort with armed police serving as school resource officers in Jefferson County Public Schools.

#BLMers were also very quick to bail out the attempted assassin.
Man accused of trying to shoot mayoral candidate released from LMDC after bond posted

Bail has been paid for the man accused of attempting to murder mayoral candidate Craig Greenberg on Monday morning.
Quintez Brown, 21, was released from the Louisville Metro Department of Corrections around 7:30 p.m. Wednesday. Brown’s $100,000 cash bond was posted by the Louisville Community Bail Fund, an arm of Black Lives Matter Louisville, around 4 p.m.
Under the terms of the bond agreement, Brown will be placed on home incarceration. Brown was released to his family, who did not speak with reporters outside of the Hall of Justice.

Btw, Q was invited to an event hosted by Obama a few years ago. University of Louisville had a fawning story about him. It has since been scrubbed from the website, but it is still cached by Google.
Political science major earns coveted spot at national gathering

UofL freshman and political science major Quintez Brown is already making quite an impact. So much so, even former President Barack Obama has taken notice.
In February, the political science major and first-generation college student was one of 22 students in the country invited to the inaugural national gathering of the Obama Foundation’s My Brother’s Keeper Alliance that supports boys and young men of color.
“I was able to meet and speak to President Barack Obama. I shook his hand, looked him in the eye, and told him my name and where I came from,” Brown said.

 

[Patooka]

Well this is certainly surprising...

 

[Metaphor]

Brown, who has been active with Black Lives Matter Louisville and the University of Louisville's Youth Violence Prevention Research Center,

The bolded part reminded me of the man who ran a television station to counter negative Muslim stereotypes, but then he killed and beheaded his wife...in that same station.

 

[thebeave]

You can't make this shit up...

Poor Obama. I wonder if he regrets all his special White House invitations to these young knucklehead kids who turned out to be nothing but frauds. Clockboy is another who comes to mind.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Btw, Q was invited to an event hosted by Obama a few years ago. University of Louisville had a fawning story about him. It has since been scrubbed from the website, but it is still cached by Google.
Political science major earns coveted spot at national gathering

UofL freshman and political science major Quintez Brown is already making quite an impact. So much so, even former President Barack Obama has taken notice.
In February, the political science major and first-generation college student was one of 22 students in the country invited to the inaugural national gathering of the Obama Foundation’s My Brother’s Keeper Alliance that supports boys and young men of color.
“I was able to meet and speak to President Barack Obama. I shook his hand, looked him in the eye, and told him my name and where I came from,” Brown said.

Here's the link directly from University of Louisville, not cache. Where did you get information that the page was scrubbed?

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Louisville mayoral candidate targeted in campaign headquarters shooting, authorities say

A Democratic candidate for mayor in Louisville, Kentucky, was the target of a shooting Monday morning at his campaign headquarters, authorities said.
Democrat Craig Greenberg was the target of the shooting in the city's Butchertown neighborhood, Louisville Metropolitan Police Department Chief Erika Shields said, adding that although there were no injuries in the incident, a round did appear to strike Greenberg's clothing.
Quintez Brown, 21, has been charged with attempted murder and four counts of wanton endangerment in the first degree in connection with the shooting, according to Louisville Metro Police Department Public Information Officer Elizabeth Ruoff.

CNN fails to mention it (I wonder why), but Quintez Brown is a #BLM activist in Louisville.

The CNN article is relatively short but gives a direct link to another article from a different site that mentions Brown's activism and "social justice" yada yada yada. It ought to be obvious that is likely BLM in context. No?

 

[Jarhyn]

Btw, Q was invited to an event hosted by Obama a few years ago. University of Louisville had a fawning story about him. It has since been scrubbed from the website, but it is still cached by Google.
Political science major earns coveted spot at national gathering

UofL freshman and political science major Quintez Brown is already making quite an impact. So much so, even former President Barack Obama has taken notice.
In February, the political science major and first-generation college student was one of 22 students in the country invited to the inaugural national gathering of the Obama Foundation’s My Brother’s Keeper Alliance that supports boys and young men of color.
“I was able to meet and speak to President Barack Obama. I shook his hand, looked him in the eye, and told him my name and where I came from,” Brown said.

Here's the link directly from University of Louisville, not cache. Where did you get information that the page was scrubbed?

I can't help but think "hey, Harvey Milk was shot by a conservative who hated gays... Gabby Gifford's was shot... Lincoln, the person who liberated the slaves was shot by a conservative who wanted to own slaves..."

List of assassinated human rights activists - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

It strikes me that a single white politician assassinated by a black person might be seen as a sign of progress.

It's still an awful tragedy. But it helps to look at these things in context:

Complete disinterest in black people and liberals getting shot for participating in politics. Abject fear when black people shoot white people/conservatives for participating in politics.

 

[Elixir]

It strikes me that a single white politician assassinated by a black person might be seen as a sign of progress.

He missed.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

#BLMers were also very quick to bail out the attempted assassin.

I don't disagree with this being questionable and your use of the phrase "attempted assassin," BUT I find your implicit declaration of guilt to be logically inconsistent with screaming in the past about how white males charged with crimes are just "suspects" and this difference seems to be a common theme with your posts. Rather than be political, I think it would be worthwhile just to point to specific information in an excerpt pointing to why this guy is guilty, such as a gazillion witnesses seeing him do it and capturing him at the scene, which seems to be the case? I mean, why not? That's the kind of thing that should be applied evenly in the absence of skin color, like say, in the case of Chauvin who murdered Floyd that we observed in a video.

 

[ZiprHead]

During his appearance, Eggert told the judge that he believes there are "serious mental issues at play" and said Brown would be mentally evaluated. He'll be in court again on Feb. 23.

And

The motive​

So far, the motive is unclear. LMPD continues to investigate. The day of the shooting, Chief Erika Shield said, "We're going to keep an open mind and proceed with an abundance of caution."

Too bad others here can't keep such an open mind.

What we know about the shooting at mayoral candidate Craig Greenberg's office

Here's everything we know so far about what happened.

www.wlky.com

 

[TomC]

During his appearance, Eggert told the judge that he believes there are "serious mental issues at play" and said Brown would be mentally evaluated. He'll be in court again on Feb. 23.

And

The motive​

So far, the motive is unclear. LMPD continues to investigate. The day of the shooting, Chief Erika Shield said, "We're going to keep an open mind and proceed with an abundance of caution."

Too bad others here can't keep such an open mind.

What we know about the shooting at mayoral candidate Craig Greenberg's office

Here's everything we know so far about what happened.

www.wlky.com

This^^^

Once again, almost nobody knows anything except for vague media reports that imply more than inform.
Tom

 

[Elixir]

Once again, almost nobody knows anything except for vague media reports that imply more than inform.

Right, but what's the internet for if we can't jump to conclusions, make unwarranted summary judgments of guilt and flaunt the superiority of what we would have done had we been in the perp's shoes?

 

[Metaphor]

and flaunt the superiority of what we would have done had we been in the perp's shoes?

Greenberg said Tuesday that he and his staff were gathered for a morning meeting in his office at campaign headquarters when an individual walked in.
"We asked if we could help him. And he pulled out a gun, aimed it directly at me and opened fire," Greenberg told CNN's John Berman on "New Day."

Every day of my life I have refrained from pulling a gun, aiming it at a person, and opening fire. Had I been "in the perp's shoes", I feel like I would have continued refraining from pulling a gun, aiming it at a person, and opening fire. But, perhaps there will be exonerating evidence yet to be reported, like the entire meeting room had also been packing heat and aimed their guns at Brown before Brown shot.

 

[repoman]

It will probably be shown to be of importance to the shooter that the mayoral candidate is obviously a Jew, both by name and facial features.

Jewish Louisville mayor candidate ‘traumatized’ as shooting suspect released

 

[Toni]

Hasn't it occurred to anyone that it is not unlikely that Mr. Brown is suffering from a serious mental illness?

And why hasn't Derec decried the seven year sentence handed down to Dan White, who assassinated Harvey Milk, and George Mascone? Especially since he planned to kill two additional people.

 

[jonatha]

Both the shooter and the (not quite) shootee served together on the city council...

 

[thebeave]

Hasn't it occurred to anyone that it is not unlikely that Mr. Brown is suffering from a serious mental illness?

And why hasn't Derec decried the seven year sentence handed down to Dan White, who assassinated Harvey Milk, and George Mascone? Especially since he planned to kill two additional people.

How do you know he hasn't? If you ask him, I suspect you will hear him say the sentence was way too light. People of all political persuasions were pretty disgusted by the light sentence, especially here in the Bay Area.

 

[TomC]

And why hasn't Derec decried the seven year sentence handed down to Dan White, who assassinated Harvey Milk, and George Mascone? Especially since he planned to kill two additional people.

Sweet Jesus, how far back are we gonna go with the whataboutism?
I don't know @Derec well enough to know if he'd graduated from grade school when that happened.

Hasn't it occurred to anyone that it is not unlikely that Mr. Brown is suffering from a serious mental illness?

I don't remember you bringing that issue up when we were discussing some white dudes in Brookhaven, Mississippi behaving badly with firearms.
Tom

 

[Elixir]

Every day of my life I have refrained from pulling a gun, aiming it at a person, and opening fire. Had I been "in the perp's shoes", I feel like I would have continued refraining from pulling a gun, aiming it at a person, and opening fire. But, perhaps there will be exonerating evidence yet to be reported, like the entire meeting room had also been packing heat and aimed their guns at Brown before Brown shot.

Yeah, that. But would conspicuously not shooting someone be virtue signaling?
I've never carried a gun in public myself, which has kept me out of that kind of trouble for most of a century. But maybe I need to disabuse some people who are mistaken about my intent?

 

[Toni]

And why hasn't Derec decried the seven year sentence handed down to Dan White, who assassinated Harvey Milk, and George Mascone? Especially since he planned to kill two additional people.

Sweet Jesus, how far back are we gonna go with the whataboutism?
I don't know @Derec well enough to know if he'd graduated from grade school when that happened.

Hasn't it occurred to anyone that it is not unlikely that Mr. Brown is suffering from a serious mental illness?

I don't remember you bringing that issue up when we were discussing some white dudes in Brookhaven, Mississippi behaving badly with firearms.
Tom

You're taking my post a little too seriously, or at least the first bit. I was following up on Jahryn's post mentioning Milk's assassination and also playing a bit on the fact that Derec has a long history of dredging up obscure crimes. Milk's assassination was hardly obscure although it did, generally speaking, rather obscure the more serious assassination of a sitting mayor for political purposes (with a healthy side of serious mental illness on the part of White.). I myself had forgotten that Milk wasn't the only person assassinated that day by White and I'm pretty certain I never really knew much about White myself until Wikipedia just helped me out a couple of hours ago. I certainly did not know that White only received 7 years and served 5. I find that extremely shocking. As well as my being relatively ignorant of the fact. Of course, in 1978, there was no internet, no 24hr news cycle and most of my focus at the time was directed towards my very young family (I had a very young baby and had just moved house at the time Milk was assassinated), and my job which required much more focus on international issues rather than domestic ones. I of course knew about Harvey Milk and his assassination but whatever else I knew or read at the time has been obscured by other life events and time.

Is racism a mental illness as defined by mental health professionals? I don't know. I know we joke about Trump Derangement Syndrome, probably with either side giving it opposite meanings. Is homophobia also a mental illness? Again, I'm not certain that it is listed by the DSM-5 or not. My personal belief is that it is a deep illness of the mind and of the soul and that such illness does not preclude responsibility for one's actions.

Do I think that the Case father and son are mentally ill? Yes, probably. Do I think that precludes them from standing trial and if found guilty, receiving significant sentences and serving them? Nope.

All of this discussion aside, I would like to point out that most of those who are currently incarcerated committed their crimes due to some combination of substance abuse (legal and illegal substances) and mental illness. As a nation, we need to address the serious mental health issues that are driving substance abuse, violence, homelessness, domestic violence and just about every crime we can think of.