Running for mayor while white

[Toni]

It will probably be shown to be of importance to the shooter that the mayoral candidate is obviously a Jew, both by name and facial features.

Jewish Louisville mayor candidate ‘traumatized’ as shooting suspect released

That only adds to the likelihood that there is significant mental illness at play.

 

[Toni]

Hasn't it occurred to anyone that it is not unlikely that Mr. Brown is suffering from a serious mental illness?

And why hasn't Derec decried the seven year sentence handed down to Dan White, who assassinated Harvey Milk, and George Mascone? Especially since he planned to kill two additional people.

How do you know he hasn't? If you ask him, I suspect you will hear him say the sentence was way too light. People of all political persuasions were pretty disgusted by the light sentence, especially here in the Bay Area.

If Derec has, I don't recall it. I also don't fault him for it tbh, except as my apparently ineffective snark. As written above, I was an actual adult living on the other side of the country when Milk was killed and I confess I completely lost track of the fact that someone else was assassinated at the same time, or that others were on the killer's list--and the light sentence--if I ever were actually aware. I mean, part of my job at that time was to read prominent newspapers, including the LA Times, but the major part of the focus for my job was international news rather than domestic. Although there were some discussions about Anita Bryant and her 'mission.' (my term not anyone else's)

 

[laughing dog]

At the writing of the OP title (and this post), there is no indication race had anything to do with this attack.

 

[Elixir]

At the writing of the OP title (and this post), there is no indication race had anything to do with this attack.

Phwew. Now, we just have to eliminate guns as a factor, and we can have a rational discussion about it.

 

[Metaphor]

I've never carried a gun in public myself, which has kept me out of that kind of trouble for most of a century. But maybe I need to disabuse some people who are mistaken about my intent?

What has kept me out of "shooting trouble" is not the lack of carrying a gun, but the fact that I do not believe I have the right to shoot random people, or indeed, even my political enemies, unless in self-defense.

 

[Patooka]

What has kept me out of "shooting trouble" is not the lack of carrying a gun, but the fact that I do not believe I have the right to shoot random people, or indeed, even my political enemies, unless in self-defense.

The depressing thing is that you expect some special recognition for holding such an evolved attitude.

 

[Metaphor]

What has kept me out of "shooting trouble" is not the lack of carrying a gun, but the fact that I do not believe I have the right to shoot random people, or indeed, even my political enemies, unless in self-defense.

The depressing thing is that you expect some special recognition for holding such an evolved attitude.

No, I expect Elixir to not have made such a curious statement as 'flaunt the superiority of what we would have done had we been in the perp's shoes?', as if acknowledging that it is, in fact, superior to not shoot your political enemies, to have some restraint, as if this were somehow a strange sentiment to hold.

 

[Patooka]

It's okay. I believe you.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

 

I've never carried a gun in public myself, which has kept me out of that kind of trouble for most of a century. But maybe I need to disabuse some people who are mistaken about my intent?

What has kept me out of "shooting trouble" is not the lack of carrying a gun, but the fact that I do not believe I have the right to shoot random people, or indeed, even my political enemies, unless in self-defense.

But if you had very serious mental illness, you might shoot at someone if you were having a bad spell and that is true even if you generally thought it wrong to shoot your co-workers.

 

[Toni]

 

I've never carried a gun in public myself, which has kept me out of that kind of trouble for most of a century. But maybe I need to disabuse some people who are mistaken about my intent?

What has kept me out of "shooting trouble" is not the lack of carrying a gun, but the fact that I do not believe I have the right to shoot random people, or indeed, even my political enemies, unless in self-defense.

But if you had very serious mental illness, you might shoot at someone if you were having a bad spell and that is true even if you generally thought it wrong to shoot your co-workers.

In Australia, it is much more difficult to obtain guns so probably not. Or at least not without a lot of planning and preparation which, in the US, generally is taken to mean that you don't have that serious a mental illness with respect to being responsible for your crime. I don't agree. I also don't agree that being seriously mentally ill when you committed a serious, especially a violent crime, means that you should be released. Prison as we know it is not appropriate but neither are the streets.

 

[Derec]

Here's the link directly from University of Louisville, not cache. Where did you get information that the page was scrubbed?

That page returned a 404 error when I wrote the OP. Either there was an unrelated website problem, or, much more likely, somebody hastily scrubbed it and then they thought better of it.

 

[Derec]

The CNN article is relatively short but gives a direct link to another article from a different site that mentions Brown's activism and "social justice" yada yada yada. It ought to be obvious that is likely BLM in context. No?

So why was CNN reluctant to state the shooter's #BLM affiliations? They surely would not have been so coy if he was a Proud Boy or something.

 

[Derec]

I can't help but think "hey, Harvey Milk was shot by a conservative who hated gays... Gabby Gifford's was shot... Lincoln, the person who liberated the slaves was shot by a conservative who wanted to own slaves..."

You are really reaching very far back with some of these.

It strikes me that a single white politician assassinated by a black person might be seen as a sign of progress.

I am sure you would see that as a "sign of progress". No surprises there!

It's still an awful tragedy. But it helps to look at these things in context:

The context is that the media is very uncritical toward #BLM and the wider world of black extremism and black nationalism. Hell, in the media and academia, black nationalism/black power are generally portrayed as positive things.

Complete disinterest in black people and liberals getting shot for participating in politics. Abject fear when black people shoot white people/conservatives for participating in politics.

Your boy Quintez Brown was released on a relatively small bail within two days. A trucker organizer is being held without bail for tactics that #BLMers have engaged in for 8 years with impunity.
It is hardly true that blacks who try to assassinate whites are somehow treated harshly. Quite the opposite actually.

 

[Derec]

He missed.

Well, being an anti-gun activists means he missed out on range time.

 

[Derec]

I don't disagree with this being questionable and your use of the phrase "attempted assassin," BUT I find your implicit declaration of guilt to be logically inconsistent with screaming in the past about how white males charged with crimes are just "suspects" and this difference seems to be a common theme with your posts.

There isn't any doubt that he was the one who tried to murder Greenberg. That is very different than cases that basically boil down to "he said, she said".

Rather than be political,

But this is a political assassination and thus it is political.
As is the group who bailed him out.
As is the media downplaying this attempted assassination or the evils of black nationalism.

in the case of Chauvin who murdered Floyd that we observed in a video.

These two cases are very different. Regarding intent, motivation (race, religion) etc.

 

[Derec]

Too bad others here can't keep such an open mind.

There is keeping an open mind and then there is sticking your head in the sand. This is latter.
How Quintez Brown went from BLM rising star to accused shooter

Despite Brown’s mysterious disappearance from Louisville last June — he was reportedly found by his dad on a bench in Brooklyn nearly two weeks later — and his increasing social media interest in revolutionary communism and black nationalism, family and friends from the local chapter of Black Lives Matter alluded to only vague “emotional issues” he might have had.
Brown’s Twitter account has since been deleted, but he posted support of the Lion of Judah Armed Forces on the Instagram account he created last December when announcing a run for the Louisville metro council.
Lion of Judah is an armed, militant group similar to the Black Hebrew Israelites who espouse an ideology that African-Americans, not Jews, are the true descendants of the Biblical Hebrews.
Lion of Judah has been identified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group.

LMAO at black nationalists who believe they are both descendants of Egyptian pharaohs and the "real Jews".

 

[Derec]

It will probably be shown to be of importance to the shooter that the mayoral candidate is obviously a Jew, both by name and facial features.

Jewish Louisville mayor candidate ‘traumatized’ as shooting suspect released

Antisemitism is very common in black nationalist circles, especially more hotepy ones.

 

[Derec]

Hasn't it occurred to anyone that it is not unlikely that Mr. Brown is suffering from a serious mental illness?

If he is, that would be all the more reason not to release him into the world. He has definitely demonstrated to be a danger to others. If he is mentally ill, it would be appropriate to commit him involuntarily. "Criminally insane" is what I think they used to call it - there is probably a more PC term for it these days.
However, I do not think he has been diagnosed with any particular mental illness. Do you excuse other (attempted) killers like that or just leftist/black ones?

And why hasn't Derec decried the seven year sentence handed down to Dan White, who assassinated Harvey Milk, and George Mascone? Especially since he planned to kill two additional people.

That was over 40 years ago. What a timely reference!

 

[Derec]

Sweet Jesus, how far back are we gonna go with the whataboutism?
I don't know @Derec well enough to know if he'd graduated from grade school when that happened.

LMAO. I wasn't even born then!

 

[Derec]

Yeah, that. But would conspicuously not shooting someone be virtue signaling?

You are the one saying how we should put ourselves in the shoes of the poor, poor Quintez Brown.