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What are some positions you would recommend I have before I run for congress?

NightHawkBuzz said:
Your opinion doesn't mean anything you have NEVER ran or won anything in politics before in your life.
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Run-on sentence. 'Run', not 'ran'.
NightHawkBuzz said:
Your just some dude typing online with no power or no political influence at all.
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'You're', the contraction for 'you are.' We covered this in a previous lesson. 'Dude' is colloquial and unsuited to context.
NightHawkBuzz said:
Your just some person typing online with no power or influence in politics if you had the ability to run a successful campaign and attempt to win you probably done it by now but you haven't. So your only goal is to attempt to put others down while you do nothing with your own path and have no future in politics.
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'You're'. Run-on sentence. 'You probably done it by now' requires a helping verb: 'would have done it'. Comma after 'down'.
NightHawkBuzz said:
Really sad and pathetic......
Don't so anything like this to me. I don't have an associates degree I have a bachelor's degree.
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'Say' for 'so'. Apostrophe in associate's. Run-on sentence.
NightHawkBuzz said:
Why don't you get a life and stop worrying about what I am doing with mine.

It doesn't matter what you think nobody cares what your opinion is of me in politics.
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Run-on.
NightHawkBuzz said:
You have NEVER ran or won anything in politics before in your life.
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'Run' for 'ran'.
NightHawkBuzz said:
You haven't done anything in politics before in your life yet you think your somehow qualified to talk about these issues when trust me your not.
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Place commas after 'life', 'issues', and 'me'.
Please revise and turn in second draft.
Your mom called about the work you missed from your absence. We are starting Island of the Blue Dolphins (copy enclosed) and you will need to read chapters 1-3 for Monday's class. Have a nice weekend and get well. We missed you, Buzz.
 
NightHawkBuzz said:
Your opinion doesn't mean anything you have NEVER ran or won anything in politics before in your life.
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I take back my recommendation that you enlist in the Marine Corps. I think of the Corps as my second family and I wouldn't want to subject my family to your ignorant, prejudiced whining - it would be terrible for morale. I don't think the Corps could correct your self-professed shortcomings, so it would be a waste of time. And upon further reflection, you probably wouldn't pass the ethics standards test your state bar would require you to take if you could actually complete law school, so I take back that recommendation as well.

However, I still stick to my original recommendations on how you might go about changing your prejudiced worldview. Hate is poison, and will inevitably kill off everything within you that could bring you joy, so I strongly recommend you reconsider your position related to people who may be different from you in some ways. This was my recent post on that topic:
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No I don't. I don't need to explain this to you or anyone else. I have my reasons for wanting to pass anti lgbtq laws and that's it.
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I suspect I know why your agenda is loaded with anti-gay, anti-immigrant items - you are secretly gay and have a crush on your lawn service guy, Gorge. Your agenda is an over the top reaction to your true feelings, an attempt to deny who you are. This is what I would suggest you do to get over your internal conflict and move on to live a happy, fulfilled life instead of seeking validation for your negative emotions online:

Have a relationship with a gay man, preferably an immigrant from south of the border. This will teach you to live a happier life and to rely on your partner for fulfillment without feeling negative emotions.

Spend the summer working with your hands picking fruit, or hanging sheetrock or similar. Preferably, side by side with your latin lover and others from his community. This will teach you self respect, the value of a hard day's work, and will allow you to get to know people who are culturally and socially different from you and empathize with them. Irrational hatred or animosity towards people who are different from you is typically a reflection of one's own shortcomings and this will help you recognize and work through your own issues.

Dress up in drag on the weekends and let loose your feminine side. It worked for George Santos, didn't it?

Good luck with your journey and I hope you can overcome your mental health issues and lead a happier life. Living in hate is no fun and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. You can become a champion for the weak, the misunderstood, and the underserved Instead of going down this pathway to hell that you are talking about.
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Your just some dude typing online with no power or no political influence at all.
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What office do you hold, again?
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At least I'll try one day and you never will and that says everything I need to know.
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I’ve worked on a couple of successful campaigns. My candidates won, including one very hotly contested seat.

What I can say about both of ‘my’ candidates is that they each had very clear ideas about what their vision of the office they aspired to as well as very clear understanding of the issues involved and what their skill set was. In other words, they knew what they thought needed to be done, and they knew how they would go about accomplishing their goals. They were excellent at working well with others, they knew how to research issues and they knew how to win people to their side. Most importantly, they were eager to learn and they knew how to learn.

If you actually want to successfully run for office, those are basics required to win and to perform the duties of office, from school board or city council to senate or congressperson or whatever office you aspire to.
 
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NightHawkBuzz said:
I don't know where your coming to these conclusions man. That's not true I have a good work ethic I understand public office and service.
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I suggest volunteering for a public service charity to add to your resume. Work on campaigns of other politicians you support.
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Working on campaigns would be incredibly useful to learning the dynamics and schmoozing required of a politician.
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While I agree it might be useful and educational, I also think there's quite a bit of risk involved. Even if your politician-boss wins, you may get pigeonholed as a worker bee as opposed to a manager (or manager of managers, i.e. the boss). They could see you are very academic or a very hard worker or great at focusing on projects and WAMMO! Suddenly, that's what you are known for, not being the politician. That's not to say that people haven't worked their way up the ladder. It's happened. I think in this day and age, though, among Republicans, it's more about the noise you make and getting noticed that leads to running for office and a shot at the job. Note, for example, the number of screaming Karens who have transitioned into elected school board members.

In NightHawkBuzz's case, he's not a screaming Karen, but does have a communications degree. This is why I recommended getting onto AM radio as a start.
 
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NightHawkBuzz said:

You asked me what I majored in and I told you Communication and Media and you went off and said all this stuff.

I don't even know what the hell your talking about.
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You’re degree is in Communication and Media, whatever kind of degree that is supposed to be, yet your unable to parse the difference between you’re yours and you’re you’res?

Where did you get you’re degree, Trump University?
 
NightHawkBuzz said:
Your opinion doesn't mean anything you have NEVER ran or won anything in politics before in your life.

Your just some dude typing online with no power or no political influence at all.

Your just some person typing online with no power or influence in politics if you had the ability to run a successful campaign and attempt to win you probably done it by now but you haven't. So your only goal is to attempt to put others down while you do nothing with your own path and have no future in politics.
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So are you.

NightHawkBuzz said:
Really sad and pathetic......
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Agreed. You should work on that.
 
NightHawkBuzz said:
Your just some dude typing online with no power or no political influence at all.
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You don’t know that.
I’m not sure if you “know” anything in the usual sense of the word. It is obvious that you don’t know the difference between your, you’re and yore, and apparently don’t recall saying the exact same thing to others in the past, including your “your” error.

The problem you have posed to the group is completely intractable, given the above conditions. Nonetheless I’ll offer that you should eagerly accept and embrace ANY position or job you can get, and go from there. Use your own performance in that position or job to gauge your next move.

You can thank me later, IF you can get a job.
 
NightHawkBuzz said:
Don't so anything like this to me. I don't have an associates degree I have a bachelor's degree.

Why don't you get a life and stop worrying about what I am doing with mine.

It doesn't matter what you think nobody cares what your opinion is of me in politics.

You have NEVER ran or won anything in politics before in your life.

You haven't done anything in politics before in your life yet you think your somehow qualified to talk about these issues when trust me your not.
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Then why are you here? Why did you ignore Rhea’s extensive post asking this question of you?

In point of fact, at least one person (Rhea, I believe) HAS run for office, and won. There may be others.

Regardless, you are talking to a bunch of intelligent and accomplished people here, many of whom no doubt could have for for public office and won, had they chosen to do so.

If, though, you feel the only advice worth taking is from a group of successful pols, why are you asking us these questions, rather than, say, go to a board dominated by people who have actually run for, and won, public office?

You’re a guy who has a degree in communications and media who doesn’t know what a comma is, can’t tell the difference between you’re and your, and can’t tell the difference between the present tense and the past participle. You want to run for office, but have a notoriously thin skin — though it must be admitted that while having a thin skin used to be a detriment to a politician, Trump has played his thin skin to his advantage, at least among the boobs who support him.

So why are you here?
 
pood said:
Then why are you here? Why did you ignore Rhea’s extensive post asking this question of you?
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Perhaps he feels more qualified to whine than to do work.

pood said:
In point of fact, at least one person (Rhea, I believe) HAS run for office, and won. There may be others.
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Ran three times, won twice, served in elected office for 8 years, then helped others run and win multiple times.

But hey. Why engage in actual meaningful discussion when there’s an opportunity to just call everyone a “Poopy-head” and demonstrate that one is unserious?
 
Here’s the post, Buzz, if you want to acyually address it.

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NightHawkBuzz said:
I am wondering what are some positions you would recommend that I have before I run for congress?
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Volunteer is a position you should get.
  • At a hospice
  • At a homeless shelter
  • At an adult daycare
You should get this position so that you can learn EMPATHY and you can learn to LISTEN. Do this for a year. Do it for two.
At 24 years old, you should already have 400 hours of volunteer service to others under your belt. Do you?


NightHawkBuzz said:
Like what type of resume should I be building up and having before I run for congress?
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One that includes a knowledge of how to ask questions.
You have come here and asked the same question, what, 7 times now?

Not ONCE have you demonstrated that you actually did anything recommended by people who spent time gifting you with their answers.

  • Not ONCE have you come back with your homework done and said, “okay, I went and looked up jurisprudence, here’s what I think it is, am I right?”
  • Not ONCE have you come back and said, “Yeah, I went to the town hall to check on running for town council and I have put in my papers to run.”
  • Not ONCE have you come back and said, “I went to the town council monthly meeting last week and here’s what I learned.”
  • Not ONCE have you demonstrated the work ethic of doing the homework suggested to you.
  • Not ONCE have you come back and said, “okay, I looked up the resumes of the 10 youngest congressmembers, and here’s what they look like.


You should build up a resume of SHOWING your work ethic and demonstrating that you will not lazily return to ask the same question an 8th time without having done any followup on the answers you received before.


NightHawkBuzz said:
What would a strong resume look like before I run for congress?
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A strong resume would look like you showing back up here with a careful summary of all the advice you have been given in the previous 6 threads.
Try it.
Prove to us that you have earned the right to ask more questions.
Prove to us that you have a work ethic by summarizing the advice you’ve been given.
Prove to us that you have noticed the difference between “your” and “you’re”.


What exactly are you EXPECTING to hear? It sounds like you want a checklist of steps guaranteed to turn into a congressional career.

Hint. There isn’t one.

Here’s another hint:
The people here want integrity, hard work and critical thinking.

We DON’T have any respect for politicians who want power to impose unpopular oppressive laws.
And if you haven’t figured that out by listening and reading the room, you’ll remain perplexed about why ON EARTH any one of us would possibly want to give you any useful advice on how to oppress us.

You are asking the wrong crowd. And you haven’t figured out that what we would vote for, you don’t have.. Starting with empathy, an ability to do your own homework, and the gravitas to manage the mood when you say things that will disgust the people you are talking to, and they react with disgust.

You should go to 4chan and ask them. They’d love what you say is your position, and they won’t bat an eyelash when you show that you won’t do the homework.

Why are you even asking a bunch of moderate to liberal atheists how to get ahead as a fascist asshole?
Seriously why would you even ask this group these questions?. You have to know that we abhor your idea of just getting power to impose your will. Surely you know this.
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Just curious/quibbling but why is it that people think serving in the military is a good qualification to serve in public office?

Is it just a traditional way to limit the field of candidates to males? I realize that women have always served in the military, even when they had to conceal their gender to do so. For the record, I have many relatives including one of my children who served/are serving in the armed forces.
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Service to country would be the first thing that comes to mind. Responsibility for other people’s lives is another. It doesn’t seem to have prevented many women who aren’t veterans from being elected, and it probably helped the women in Congress who are veterans.

People who want to limit the field to men can come up with any number of reasons.
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My point was that until recently, military service seemed to be used as a screening tool to keep out women.

Normally, being a politician is not a dangerous undertaking. If one was interested in electing those with a proven record of public service, I would think there would be a bigger effort to recruit nurses, teachers, doctors, public defenders, firefighters and EMTs.
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I think there's a nuance here. It's called "public service", but political positions aren't really service positions. They're leadership, not support roles.

I personally think that having more nurses, teachers, firefighters in politics could be a good thing. But generally speaking, the personalities that often gravitate to those fields aren't necessarily the personality types that flourish and shine in political work.
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The thing about those positions you mentioned is that they're - to a certain degree - stress tests. A nurse dealing with a patient coding in an ER is very stressful. So is a firefighter running into a burning building. So is (to a great degree) a teacher dealing with a bunch of unruly students in an underfunded school room. Remaining calm in a stressful situation is one aspect of leadership. I spent part of my work day sitting across from one of our crisis management people (who was previously an intelligence analyst at the Pentagon) as she navigated her way through meetings revising our procedures for handling emergencies. I've never felt so out of my depth. But I listened, and I learned.

Stress can also come in many other forms. I asked our intrepid interloper what the biggest crowd he'd spoken in front of for a reason. Public speaking can be extremely stressful, and it takes a certain kind of person to do well. For some reason, I'm one of those people, and can get up onstage in front of hundreds or even thousands of people without freaking out. If I took that experience, coupled it with my time dealing with stressful situations at work, added a genuine desire to help people (which I think I have) and threw in a bit of learning from that analyst I work with, I might - if I had access to an expensive tailor and some good hair and makeup people - be able to get elected to the local city council. Or maybe even a state representative if I so chose. I wouldn't, but I could make an attempt if I wanted to.


Buzz can't even handle commenting on an anonymous internet forum without losing control and lashing out. And he thinks he deserves to be a member of the US House of Representatives.
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Your opinion doesn't mean anything you have NEVER ran or won anything in politics before in your life.

Your just some dude typing online with no power or no political influence at all.

Your just some person typing online with no power or influence in politics if you had the ability to run a successful campaign and attempt to win you probably done it by now but you haven't. So your only goal is to attempt to put others down while you do nothing with your own path and have no future in politics.

Really sad and pathetic......
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Seriously.

I agree that we need more nurses, teachers, firefighters, etc. in elected office, and if they have a nuanced understanding of what it means to be a public servant, so much the better. Yet handing a seat in Congress over to some 24 year old with an associates degree that "hates teh gays" with a passion? Not so much.
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Don't so anything like this to me. I don't have an associates degree I have a bachelor's degree.

Why don't you get a life and stop worrying about what I am doing with mine.

It doesn't matter what you think nobody cares what your opinion is of me in politics.

You have NEVER ran or won anything in politics before in your life.

You haven't done anything in politics before in your life yet you think your somehow qualified to talk about these issues when trust me your not.
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Your inability to engage with people you dislike is a significant barrier for your likelihood of ever holding a political office.
 
NightHawkBuzz said:
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Your just some dude typing online with no power or no political influence at all.
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What office do you hold, again?
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At least I'll try one day and you never will and that says everything I need to know.
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@Ford - Have you ever run for a club or school office of any sort? Held a leadership (not managerial) position within an organization?

@NightHawkBuzz - Same questions to you. Have you ever done any of that? Do you understand why it's relevant?
 
Ford said:
he thinks he deserves to be a member of the US House of Representatives.
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Nitpick: he seems to think that would be beneath him; according to what he says he wants to be Supreme Leader like Kim Jong Un.
 
Emily Lake said:
Your inability to engage with people you dislike is a significant barrier for your likelihood of ever holding a political office.
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Sadly, the examples of Donald Trump, Majorie Taylor Greene, Matt Graetz and others suggest that is no longer a significant barrier.
 
Emily Lake said:
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Your just some dude typing online with no power or no political influence at all.
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What office do you hold, again?
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At least I'll try one day and you never will and that says everything I need to know.
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@Ford - Have you ever run for a club or school office of any sort? Held a leadership (not managerial) position within an organization?
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As I explained to Buzz, I have never run for political office. I know enough politicians to know that's not a job I'm interested in having. Like Buzz, I have a degree in media and communications, but unlike him, I've had a long career in media, having been a news director, music director, and show producer among other positions. My current job is not a managerial position per se, but I am considered part of the leadership team.
 
Ford said:
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Your just some dude typing online with no power or no political influence at all.
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What office do you hold, again?
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At least I'll try one day and you never will and that says everything I need to know.
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@Ford - Have you ever run for a club or school office of any sort? Held a leadership (not managerial) position within an organization?
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As I explained to Buzz, I have never run for political office. I know enough politicians to know that's not a job I'm interested in having. Like Buzz, I have a degree in media and communications, but unlike him, I've had a long career in media, having been a news director, music director, and show producer among other positions. My current job is not a managerial position per se, but I am considered part of the leadership team.
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The definition of a leader is, in its most simplest form, someone who has followers - those who voluntarily have an admiration for your vision and direction, want to help get you there, and are anxious to see what happens next. From that perspective, leadership can come from anywhere in an organization - and a big differentiator from management where people are 'assigned' to follow someone else (though the two stations can coexist).

Yes, technically Trump is a leader. I personally wouldn't follow him out of a burning building even if it was one of his. However, he has followers willing and guilty of committing treason, overthrowing the government, and installing him as despot, so he qualifies as a leader (IMO just not a very good one). There is a crossroads where vision and direction intersect with ability, influence, and (in all honesty) power to execute. Enter politics, where the larger number of followers you have, the more likely you are to attain the influence and power to realize your vision. Embark too far down the crossroad and your obsession with influence and power starts to outweigh direction and vision completely - you become a slave to followership in lieu of cultivating ideas.

Our OP seems to be more obsessed with the crossroad to empowerment than even bothering to lead anyone anywhere.

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