Honestly, I think Tony Hinchcliffe was deliberately trying to sabotage Trump. Typically, roasters focus on the host—here, Trump/Republicans and his supporters—not people who aren’t even at the event. Think about it. 
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What was it that Obama once said? "Never underestimate the ability for Joe Biden to fuck things up"?
Biden may have handed Trump a big assist with his ‘garbage’ gaffe
That escalated quickly. We went from some rando comedian saying "Puerto Rico is a floating island of garbage" to the sitting President saying that half the country (Trump supporters) is garbage. Of course, its being spun differently by the White House, but it doesn't sound very persuasive. This sounds eerily similar to Hillary Clinton's ill advised "deplorables" comment in 2016.
On the bright side, at least he didn't call them Latinx.
Biden may have handed Trump a big assist with his ‘garbage’ gaffe
That escalated quickly. We went from some rando comedian saying "Puerto Rico is a floating island of garbage" to the sitting President saying that half the country (Trump supporters) is garbage. Of course, its being spun differently by the White House, but it doesn't sound very persuasive. This sounds eerily similar to Hillary Clinton's ill advised "deplorables" comment in 2016.
On the bright side, at least he didn't call them Latinx.
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Shadowy Man
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One Republican as the butt of the joke versus millions of potential voters. Who took the bigger risk? I guess we will see.
Edited to add: also, it was JD Vance himself who said we shouldn’t be offended at every little thing so I’m sure he’s ok with the couch joke. A little good-natured ribbing, or locker room talk perhaps?
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This wasn't just a rally. It was MSG, it was a main event. He was chosen because of his act. Calling Puerto Rico an island of floating garbage is a bigoted joke. It has no other intention. Typically the point of roasting is to target an individual, not broad brush an entire region of people. Take that in line with the mongrelization of immigrants by Trump and Vance, this is what you get when people say things like this.
The couch thing, it was odd. It existed, it is gone. It wasn't meant to be taken literally. Trump is calling liberals the "enemy from within". I think the couch thing can be placed a bit further back in the incendiary cabinet.
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"Sectional predator" isn't meanspirited. It wasn't meant to be taken as an actual claim. Calling Puerto Ricans garbage was.I guess meanspirited jokes are only ok from the left.
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Here’s the equivalent joke comparison (not the couch one):
“i hear there’s a giant garbage dump up in the mountains. I think it’s called Appalachia.”
Let me know when one of the Harris surrogates makes this joke after being vetted and approved by the Harris campaign.
I’m not against comparing the candidates but it can’t just be in kind, degree counts for most of the comparison.
“i hear there’s a giant garbage dump up in the mountains. I think it’s called Appalachia.”
Let me know when one of the Harris surrogates makes this joke after being vetted and approved by the Harris campaign.
I’m not against comparing the candidates but it can’t just be in kind, degree counts for most of the comparison.
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And this isn’t even the best comparison because there were probably no Appalachians who were going to vote for Harris anyway, whereas there could be many Puerto Ricans inclined towards Trump.
T.G.G. Moogly
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Begin by understanding that it is projection. Then sprinkle in generous portions of racism, xenophobia and ignorance. Not so hard to comprehend after that.
At this point, no one actually cares, but JD is lying. He was at the rally and there is no practical way for him to have avoided hearing the joke or hearing about it immediately after. Instead we are asked to believe he walked up to a podium where the island of garbage was going to be the first question, and he hasn't even seen a video of it.It's okay everyone, JD Vance has fixed it
If That Puerto Rico Joke Doesn’t Cost Trump, JD Vance’s Reaction Will
The Republican vice presidential nominee has made the whole joke worse with his defense.newrepublic.com
It's almost RVonse-like in its obfuscation;
This is the same guy who got sand in his arse crack over being called a couch fucker.
Vance's problem at the moment is he hasn't spent the last 8 years exhibiting an increasing shakier grip on reality. He had to jump into the ice water tub with no adjustment period. He had to go from resume padding grade lies to full blown denial of reality fabrications in a matter of seconds.
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Four days later and there is still much clutching of pearls over a silly joke!
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"Sectional predator" isn't meanspirited. It wasn't meant to be taken as an actual claim. Calling Puerto Ricans garbage was.I guess meanspirited jokes are only ok from the left.
Bigoted, racist jokes don’t sound bigoted or racist to bigoted racists.
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That is exactly it! Name-calling, broad brushing, denigrating is fine and "silly"... as long as it isn't against people in the right-wing. The "fuck your feelings" crowd easily get their feelings hurt.
It wasn't a good thing for Biden to say, as the statement was way too broad. I don't think it'll move the needle a micron though. I have no idea if the MSG rally will move the needle either. But it with Bad Bunny supporting Harris, maybe a little?
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Tony Hinchcliffe is running for office?
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No, but the people who hired him, and knew full well what his schtick is, are running for office.
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Somehow an image of Alfred E. Newman comes to mind. “What? Me bigoted?”
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Insulting an island is not a "silly joke" no matter how you try and rationalize it.
Elixir
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And this from a guy still repeating a college football announcer’s gaffe from years ago …Insulting an island is not a "silly joke" no matter how you try and rationalize it.
Good old Brandon, we barely knew ye.
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Insulting an island is not a "silly joke" no matter how you try and rationalize it.
Relax, it was a silly joke. And if you listened to the crowd reaction, it fell flat. Something the pro Kamala press haven't reported.
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I have recently heard that Republican wisdom was to not get offended by every little thing.What was it that Obama once said? "Never underestimate the ability for Joe Biden to fuck things up"?
Biden may have handed Trump a big assist with his ‘garbage’ gaffe
That escalated quickly. We went from some rando comedian saying "Puerto Rico is a floating island of garbage" to the sitting President saying that half the country (Trump supporters) is garbage. Of course, its being spun differently by the White House, but it doesn't sound very persuasive. This sounds eerily similar to Hillary Clinton's ill advised "deplorables" comment in 2016.
On the bright side, at least he didn't call them Latinx.