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ZiprHead said:
Maybe they like living in poverty while trying to pay their student loans.
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Why not use their degree to make more money?

The whole "student loan forgiveness" is yet another stupid idea that originated with the activist classes that was adopted by Old Man Biden.
A minority of people have student loans - most people don't have a college degree, and many who do paid their loans off or never took any.
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The sound and fury over this issue from the activists (many of whom just wanted to get their expensive art history degree at Vassar or Amherst comped) was much greater than the concern in the population/electorate at large.

Moreover, college graduates tend to earn more than the average American and are less likely to be unemployed.
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So why should this already better off demographic get special loan forgiveness from the government?
 
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Derec said:
Elixir said:
ZiprHead said:
Their primary method of obtaining information is through social media
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Fukkin Maroons gonna get what they deserve.
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Heh. I had to look that up. Apparently, it is a racist term. I had always understood "maroon"to be a comedic variant of "moron" made famous in a Bugs Bunny cartoon, I think. Looking back, I wonder if I ever jokingly called a black friend a "maroon". :oops:
 
thebeave said:
Heh. I had to look that up. Apparently, it is a racist term. I had always understood "maroon"to be a comedic variant of "moron" made famous in a Bugs Bunny cartoon, I think. Looking back, I wonder if I ever jokingly called a black friend a "maroon". :oops:
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I was really just parodying the leftist penchant to say that "everything is racist, everything is sexist, and you have to point all of it out".
I am pretty sure Elixir also had Bugs Bunny in mind. And maroni is just chestnuts. Like you might buy roasted this time of year.
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Mahlzeit!
 
There are clearly people who just love to be critical of liberals and then there are other people, moderates--who like to promote their own points of view on things. All these people have a vested interest in supporting the idea that Trump won on ideas and they may take their favorite hobby horses to new heights on the Trump electoral win. BUT, again, the truth is that Trump mostly won because of the economy and Harris being tied to the incumbent administration. Incumbents losing isn't just an American thing right now--it's been happening internationally--and when the exit polls were examined, the economy was pretty much the number 1 or number 2 issue for people. The Republicans didn't even really dominate registering and voting since many independents and even some Democrats thought about voting with their purses or just stayed home. So that's what happened but you will hear tons of irrelevant noise.
 
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ZiprHead said:
Derec said:
Elixir said:
ZiprHead said:
Their primary method of obtaining information is through social media
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Fukkin Maroons gonna get what they deserve.
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Are there maroon people being insulted? If not, I don't understand the gif.
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The only Maroons I know of are the Queensland State of Origin team.

You can insult them if you like, but as they are all big blokes who have trained for years to do this:



... I seriously don't recommend it.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
Elixir said:
Loren Pechtel said:
what body of adequate authority ever determined that it was an insurrection??
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THERE IS NO "ADEQUATE AUTHORITY".
The State Supreme Court was the ONLY authority to adjudicate that point, and they found that it was an insurrection and that Trump was complicit.
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As we saw, that lead to tit for tat.
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Led to SCOTUS skirting the issue, failing to address the question, by restricting their ruling to Trump’s eligibility to run for office. AFAIK, his eligibility to actually serve was never litigated and should probably be revoked. His coming term will be illicit, illegitimate or whatever. I expect to outlive that grease eating ball of fetid smelling fat so I’m hoping the betting houses will have a yes/no bet:

“Will Cheato Croak While In Office?”

It would probably have to carry a disclaimer about assassination though - no payout unless it looks like an accident or natural causes.
 
jonatha said:
bilby said:
The only Maroons I know of are the Queensland State of Origin team.
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I see two balls in the video still, one for each team, and it doesn't look like a split screen.

Have Australian Rules reached rugby?
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State of Origin is Rugby League, and has nothing to do with Australian Rules Football, which is a totally different game.

Only one ball is in play at a time.

Also, the Maroons player on the left of the video preview still (Billy Slater) is wearing a totally different shirt from that of the Maroon on the right (Gorden Tallis).

Tallis is wearing a shirt from a much earlier year than Slater's; Tallis played 20 Origin matches for the Maroons between 1994 and 2003; Slater played 31 Origin matches between 2004 and 2018 (and is now the Maroons head coach).

The shirt design for the New South Wales Blues has changed less noticably, but the sponsor's logos are very different between the left and right hand sides of the photomontage used in the still.

As Tallis retired from Origin the year before Slater's Origin debut, the two men never played in the same Origin match.

Their club careers did overlap, but they played for different teams - in 2003 and '04, Tallis met Slater on-field four times, with Tallis wearing a Brisbane Broncos jersey and the captains armband, and Slater wearing the Melbourne Storm kit as their new fullback.

This is, of course, entirely on-topic and relevant information in a thread about the Dem's post-mortem after their 2024 US Presidential election defeat. :p
 
bilby said:
This is, of course, entirely on-topic and relevant information in a thread about the Dem's post-mortem after their 2024 US Presidential election defeat.
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It's as relevant as most such speculation and advice I've seen.

When you've got an electorate that will believe a candidate when he says the price of eggs is $4 when he's standing in front of a store display clearly showing the price is $2.99 about the only way you're going to capture their votes is to find some better lies to tell them...
 
Don2 (Don1 Revised) said:
BUT, again, the truth is that Trump mostly won because of the economy and Harris being tied to the incumbent administration. Incumbents losing isn't just an American thing right now--it's been happening internationally--and when the exit polls were examined, the economy was pretty much the number 1 or number 2 issue for people.
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The pertinent question becomes what, precisely, is wrong with the economy.
 
Politesse said:
Don2 (Don1 Revised) said:
BUT, again, the truth is that Trump mostly won because of the economy and Harris being tied to the incumbent administration. Incumbents losing isn't just an American thing right now--it's been happening internationally--and when the exit polls were examined, the economy was pretty much the number 1 or number 2 issue for people.
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The pertinent question becomes what, precisely, is wrong with the economy.
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There is never enough money in people's pockets.
 
That's vaguely. What's precisely, and how is it connected to the neoliberal economic policies the Democratic Party has been pushing ever since they reinvented themselves as the sometime American Left, and the shitty gaslighting they engage in whenever questioned on the matter?
 
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