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Ffs, have you not seen what the insufferable prick Newsom has done to the state of California? He’s obsessed with Trump and meanwhile the state gets ignored unless it’s something he thinks will raise his profile.
Newsom taking on Trumpian style is really something to behold. Does he really think this helps him in 2028?

Newsom's communications team runs his social media content. His communications team seems to be staffed by immature college students more interested in aping Trumps output than conveying anything of substance. It appeals to some people I guess.
 
Democrats are in serious trouble if they can’t tap into what Americans are actually living through right now. Jobs data, inflation, housing costs, Trump’s tariffs acting like an extra tax, Republicans are actively making life harder while claiming the opposite, and somehow Democrats still can’t capitalize.

Their entire political machine should be at full steam, hammering away every single day at what this means for people’s lives. What we got right now? Newsom? Nigga place. The message should be simple ‘We’re all feeling it. Businesses are getting squeezed by Trump’s tariffs, while the rest of us are stuck in a declining job market and high costs of living where it takes three or more incomes to survive.’ That’s where the fight is, and if Democrats don’t own it, they’ll lose it. Again. :rolleyes:

Only thing I hear the most right now is..... Drum roll...


The fucking Epstein files.

I agree with you. Forget Epstein. But what do you mean about Newsome? He's fighting. He's fighting against the tarriffs; vote rigging, economic issues, housing, ice, inflation, and etc. He's one of the few dems that is fighting. But yea, the dems are done if they can't articulate a winning economic message.
Congressional Democrats plan red district tours for August recess

Congressional Democrats are not changing their economic message to appeal to red district voters this summer; they say President Donald Trump and the Republican Party have done that work for them.

Armed with talking points highlighting the cuts to health programs, social services and climate efforts in Trump’s domestic policy megabill, progressives this August recess are touring deep red and in-play GOP districts. They’ll be making the same pitch they’ve been touting for months: Republicans want to, and have already, cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans at the expense of public benefits.

“Donald Trump ran for office promising to lower costs on day one,” Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts said in an interview. “Our secret, super-duper strategy is to get out there and tell the truth … that Donald Trump has taken a bad situation and made it worse.”

Warren is among several high-profile progressives participating in the “Won’t Back Down Tour.” It’s a project of the political action arm of the left-leaning grassroots advocacy group MoveOn, which will host rallies in competitive GOP districts headlined by Democratic elected officials.
Sorry, you are wrong. Many Dems are taking that exact fight nationwide.

I think I’m not getting my point across: yes, Democrats are doing grassroots outreach, but many of their most recognizable voices online is dominated by reactive, meme-driven bickering instead of steady, issue-focused messaging. I get why, given what they’re responding to, but It doesn’t matter who’s right; to me it feels like politicians yelling past each other while my bills keep piling up. It’s like firefighters arguing over who started the blaze while my house is burning, I don't want a damn spat, I want someone putting water on the damn fire. I already know who started the fire and the folks who don't and don't care aren't going to be convinced VIA bickering anyway.

It’s not that Democrats aren’t trying, but they need far better control of their messaging. Republicans are practically handing them a win with the circus they’re running across every market, yet Democrats still struggle to capitalize. How in the hell is it that their approval ratings aren't so hot and that the top contender is MF Newsom. Newsom? Come on mang!
 
Honestly, I think the only reason Newsom is considered a top contender is because of Trump and his fixation on immigration, California being one of the top three states with the largest immigrant populations, and reliably Democratic. If Trump had stayed quiet on immigration up to now, the whole nation probably wouldn’t be hearing much about Newsom at all, except maybe the occasional post from Tswizzle.
 
Honestly, I think the only reason Newsom is considered a top contender is because of Trump and his fixation on immigration, California being one of the top three states with the largest immigrant populations, and reliably Democratic. If Trump had stayed quiet on immigration up to now, the whole nation probably wouldn’t be hearing much about Newsom at all, except maybe the occasional post from Tswizzle.
That's quite a generous usage of the word "occasional" there, my friend.
 
Honestly, I think the only reason Newsom is considered a top contender is because of Trump and his fixation on immigration, California being one of the top three states with the largest immigrant populations, and reliably Democratic. If Trump had stayed quiet on immigration up to now, the whole nation probably wouldn’t be hearing much about Newsom at all, except maybe the occasional post from Tswizzle.

I very much doubt the whole nation is hearing about Newsom from what I "occasionally" post on here.

I don't understand how anyone could seriously contemplate putting Newsom in the White House considering the shit show he has unloaded on California. It just goes to show how bereft of talent the democratic party is if this is their guy. It is going to be a hoot when he actually starts running though.

JD Vance for 2028 (or Trump?! lol)
 
I don't understand how anyone could seriously contemplate putting Newsom in the White House considering the shit show he has unloaded on California.
Hey, they (YOU) elected trump after he killed almost a million Americans by bungling the COVID response, lying about it for his own greedy purposes, and had a resume full of rape and fraud CONVICTIONS.
A CA shitshow ain't nuthin' by comparison. And probably would exist under Arnie or any other Republitard. Too many people like you taking up space in the sun, forcing people to sleep in your streets.
 
I don't know any Dem who would vote for Newsom in the primaries and my female friends are terrified of having another female run, after how two qualified candidates lost to a felon who has a long history of sexually assaulting women as well as being a terrible business man, and grifting whenever possible.

It's not that they won't vote for a woman. It's just that we know too many people who won't vote for a woman. It's sad that we have so much sexism in this country, but it's a fact. We women know it as most of us have personally been victims of sexism to some extent.. These days, some Republicans want to take away the right to vote from women.

Of course, all the Dems I know personally live in Georgia, but if I think of it, I'll ask all the Dems in Indiana at my atheist meetup this Sunday, if they would support Newsom in the primaries, or if they have anyone in mind who they'd support in the primaries. I still like the idea of someone who is popular in a red or purple state because that's the only way to get enough moderates, conservatives and even some Republicans to vote for the D candidate. Hopefully, the progressives and others who didn't vote last time have learned their lesson. There has never been a candidate who everyone likes, and there never will be. I just hope we never have another cult leader like Trump. How he manipulated so many people to vote for him is something that is still hard to understand, although I think the far right "news" sources that spit out all kinds of disinformation had a hand in that.

Considering what's happening in the US, maybe it's not to early to be thinking of who would be the best candidate in 2028. Sad that it has to be this way, but the US has always dragged out campaigning, for as long as I can remember.
 
Someone suggested The Sectional Predator, and that’s probably the winning (primary) ticket if Cheato has croaked. The Trumpsucking rabble will rally ‘round him as he pays homage to the stupidest, most corrupt excuse for a leader ever to be at the head of a major power’s government. But many of his voters will stay home in the general election, praying for the soul Trump never had.
If said criminal is still alive and not in prison, that’s a different story. We already have a bunch of treasonous morons saying “Trump ‘28!”.
 
Honestly, I think the only reason Newsom is considered a top contender is because of Trump and his fixation on immigration, California being one of the top three states with the largest immigrant populations, and reliably Democratic. If Trump had stayed quiet on immigration up to now, the whole nation probably wouldn’t be hearing much about Newsom at all, except maybe the occasional post from Tswizzle.

I very much doubt the whole nation is hearing about Newsom from what I "occasionally" post on here.

I don't understand how anyone could seriously contemplate putting Newsom in the White House considering the shit show he has unloaded on California. It just goes to show how bereft of talent the democratic party is if this is their guy. It is going to be a hoot when he actually starts running though.

JD Vance for 2028 (or Trump?! lol)
Theres talent in the Dem party, they just don't recognize it, or when they do, they fail to take advantage of it.

Is Trump "talented"? If that wheezing, music festival shit-house can be POTUS, I don't think the concept of substantive talent is all that important. What matters is charisma and someone people believe understands them.

How Trump fits into that picture beyond the likes of Vermin Supreme will never fail to baffle me, but what I do know is that Newsom would be more competent in every single way than Trump and Co. unless shitting one's self on a golf course during their 4th taxpayer-paid golf vacation that year counts as competence.

Oh, and how does Newsom's trolling of that orange fuckstick bother any Trump supporter??? Is it that he's not obnoxious enough? Does he need to go grab him some pussy or brag about walking into a Ms. Teen pageant when he knows they're not dressed?
 
Nobody here in PA knows Newsome. And would probably not vote for him. We are just this week starting to see some ads by him about Texas Repugs stealing congressional distrects.
 
Theres talent in the Dem party, they just don't recognize it, or when they do, they fail to take advantage of it.

I await patiently for one of these talented politicians to emerge but the last time I looked (2019/20) it was slim pickings on that podium.
Is Trump "talented"? If that wheezing, music festival shit-house can be POTUS, I don't think the concept of substantive talent is all that important.

It’s going to be very important if the Dems want to win back the presidency.
What matters is charisma and someone people believe understands them.
Certainly part of it but solid policies are going to matter more.
How Trump fits into that picture beyond the likes of Vermin Supreme will never fail to baffle me, but what I do know is that Newsom would be more competent in every single way than Trump and Co. unless shitting one's self on a golf course during their 4th taxpayer-paid golf vacation that year counts as competence.

I can assure you, Newsom is a corrupt and incompetent buffoon and he is not capable of hiding it. He is as dumb as a rock.

Oh, and how does Newsom's trolling of that orange fuckstick bother any Trump supporter??? Is it that he's not obnoxious enough? Does he need to go grab him some pussy or brag about walking into a Ms. Teen pageant when he knows they're not dressed?

It doesn’t bother me what drivel Newsom’s communications team spew on social media, but it bothers me that the governor of California neglects his duties to the state in order to grandstand in front of the media.
 
Democrats are in serious trouble if they can’t tap into what Americans are actually living through right now. Jobs data, inflation, housing costs, Trump’s tariffs acting like an extra tax, Republicans are actively making life harder while claiming the opposite, and somehow Democrats still can’t capitalize.

Their entire political machine should be at full steam, hammering away every single day at what this means for people’s lives. What we got right now? Newsom? Nigga place. The message should be simple ‘We’re all feeling it. Businesses are getting squeezed by Trump’s tariffs, while the rest of us are stuck in a declining job market and high costs of living where it takes three or more incomes to survive.’ That’s where the fight is, and if Democrats don’t own it, they’ll lose it. Again. :rolleyes:
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I think I’m not getting my point across: yes, Democrats are doing grassroots outreach, but many of their most recognizable voices online is dominated by reactive, meme-driven bickering instead of steady, issue-focused messaging. I get why, given what they’re responding to, but It doesn’t matter who’s right; to me it feels like politicians yelling past each other while my bills keep piling up. It’s like firefighters arguing over who started the blaze while my house is burning, I don't want a damn spat, I want someone putting water on the damn fire. I already know who started the fire and the folks who don't and don't care aren't going to be convinced VIA bickering anyway.

It’s not that Democrats aren’t trying, but they need far better control of their messaging. Republicans are practically handing them a win with the circus they’re running across every market, yet Democrats still struggle to capitalize. How in the hell is it that their approval ratings aren't so hot and that the top contender is MF Newsom. Newsom? Come on mang!

I agree with all this. By all rights, the GOP should be anathema by now, but somehow they're still going strong.

Opposition to Trump's use of military, e.g. his take-over of DC police, is an issue that many voters would get behind. Let's scream about such overt fascism. Keep pointing out how out-of-touch Trump and his cronies are. Let's MINIMIZE mention of divisive issues like DEI -- we can focus on improving democracy after we've salvaged what little still remains of it.

I know little about Newsom but lately he's almost presenting as a clown, playing to out-Trump Trump! Maybe we need such a foil, but do NOT make him the Democrats' standard-bearer.
 
It doesn’t bother me what drivel Newsom’s communications team spew on social media, but it bothers me that the governor of California neglects his duties to the state in order to grandstand in front of the media.
I would think this would make you happy since according to you Newsom can't do anything right.
 
What matters is charisma and someone people believe understands them.
Certainly part of it but solid policies are going to matter more.
this is part of the problem with this country’s politics. Policy is a function of the Legislative not the Executive. We put too much power in the Executive.
 
I'm not pressing a lawsuit,
Yes, that's what I said. If you had been pressing a lawsuit then your claim that the current state of the law is what matters would be correct. But as the topic at hand is the correctness of your claim about the purpose of property law, ancient history matters. Your claim is anachronistic. The legal provisions that prevent Indians from undoing 18th- and 19th-century landgrabs were introduced into the law centuries before those landgrabs happened.

why all the vituperative rhetoric?
Good question. It gets into the whole nature-vs-nurture debate. Were your parents prone to vituperative rhetoric?
 
Obama came up from obscurity all of a sudden, in just a few years. Most of the time, though, there are a lot of minor local figures who never pan out and gain national attention.
 
The legal provisions that prevent Indians from undoing 18th- and 19th-century landgrabs were introduced into the law centuries before those landgrabs happened.
Your claim does not hold water, though. What provisions are you even referring to? Not those which I referenced. And why would, say, the Modoc Nation, feel compelled to follow European law no matter how ancient it was?

Seriously though, this is stupid. There's no reason to have an argument about real estate law when a discussion would suffice. You're not a lawyer or a developer, why are you taking personal offense over this and coming out swinging with personal attacks, etc? It's pointless and time wasting.
 
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Democrats are in serious trouble if they can’t tap into what Americans are actually living through right now. Jobs data, inflation, housing costs, Trump’s tariffs acting like an extra tax, Republicans are actively making life harder while claiming the opposite, and somehow Democrats still can’t capitalize.

Their entire political machine should be at full steam, hammering away every single day at what this means for people’s lives. What we got right now? Newsom? Nigga place. The message should be simple ‘We’re all feeling it. Businesses are getting squeezed by Trump’s tariffs, while the rest of us are stuck in a declining job market and high costs of living where it takes three or more incomes to survive.’ That’s where the fight is, and if Democrats don’t own it, they’ll lose it. Again. :rolleyes:
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I think I’m not getting my point across: yes, Democrats are doing grassroots outreach, but many of their most recognizable voices online is dominated by reactive, meme-driven bickering instead of steady, issue-focused messaging. I get why, given what they’re responding to, but It doesn’t matter who’s right; to me it feels like politicians yelling past each other while my bills keep piling up. It’s like firefighters arguing over who started the blaze while my house is burning, I don't want a damn spat, I want someone putting water on the damn fire. I already know who started the fire and the folks who don't and don't care aren't going to be convinced VIA bickering anyway.

It’s not that Democrats aren’t trying, but they need far better control of their messaging. Republicans are practically handing them a win with the circus they’re running across every market, yet Democrats still struggle to capitalize. How in the hell is it that their approval ratings aren't so hot and that the top contender is MF Newsom. Newsom? Come on mang!

I agree with all this. By all rights, the GOP should be anathema by now, but somehow they're still going strong.

Opposition to Trump's use of military, e.g. his take-over of DC police, is an issue that many voters would get behind. Let's scream about such overt fascism. Keep pointing out how out-of-touch Trump and his cronies are. Let's MINIMIZE mention of divisive issues like DEI -- we can focus on improving democracy after we've salvaged what little still remains of it.

I know little about Newsom but lately he's almost presenting as a clown, playing to out-Trump Trump! Maybe we need such a foil, but do NOT make him the Democrats' standard-bearer.
Yes. Let's not actually run someone who might actually be able to win.

The discombobulated notion that AOC should be on the POTUS ticket in '28 is gaining steam among the addle-brained left. I use this as an example of just how adamantly the left refuses to face reality and therefore insists on losing.

Whatever. It won't affect me but it will horribly impact the tens of millions of people and the policies the left is supposed to care about. The Dems have traded positive incremental victories for catastrophic losses all in the name of who and what?

Fuckin' have at it.
 
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