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The cruelty towards Trans members of the military by Trump and company

 
 
 
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This is an article that anyone can read. It brought tears to my eyes and I wish there was a way to help her out. It's criminal how these people are being treated, not only for being kicked out of the military but many have never received their severance pay.

Chloe Shapiro is one of a dozen former service members identified by The Washington Post who have waited months for full payments.



By Casey Parks
SEATTLE — By the time Chloe Shapiro reached Seattle, almost nothing remained of the life she’d thought she’d have forever. Her career was over. Her bank account was down to $30, and the only home she had was a two-door Honda Accord.

She’d spent the past few nights sleeping in the driver’s seat outside small-town Walmarts as she traveled the 2,100 miles from Texas. In Seattle, she parked her car and surveyed all she had left. She had folded a few dresses in the front seat. In the back, she’d laid her Texas Army National Guard uniform on top of a crate filled with her father’s Bibles and a DD214 certificate that said she was officially discharged from the military.
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In the year and a half since Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth declared he would find all trans troops and kick them out, Shapiro had tried to do everything right. She’d given up the military job she’d held for nearly half her life. She’d filled out the paperwork and turned in her gear — all in exchange for an honorable discharge and the promise of an $86,665.32 severance check.
She was 30, young enough to make something new of her life. She’d planned to leave San Antonio and use the money to start college in the trans-friendly Pacific Northwest. Months had gone by, though, and her severance still hadn’t arrived. She couldn’t start college. She couldn’t even pay rent.
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When the higher-ups moved her to a logistics job overseeing weapons and armored vehicles, Shapiro “took it by the horns and ran with it,” said Sgt. 1st Class Jeremiah Thompson, who met Shapiro in 2018 when they served in the 111th engineer battalion together.
“It’s a stressful position with a high turnover rate, but Shapiro was super dedicated,” Thompson said. “She would do anything she could to figure out a way to take care of her soldiers.”
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I've only pasted a small amount of the article but his woman was an honored and valued by the military but since she's transgender, the assholes in the administration wanted her out. :mad:

 
The real cruelty is the woke that went out of their way to recruit inappropriate candidates into the military. Now that the woke phase is all but over, these people are again, collateral damage in much the same way as Jason Arday at Cambridge. It was bound to end in tears.
 
This rabid hatred of an out group follows a classic and familiar pattern, although if you'd asked me 20 years who the Repubs would target with endless vitriolic propaganda, I wouldn't have guessed the transgendered. SCOTUS of course settled the women's sports issue; the states can carry on with their bans. But Trump isn't nearly done obsessing about transgender. (His demented lies about little Jimmy getting 'mutilizated' during his day in the public school and, I guess, coming home emasculated, should have forced the authorities to commit him to a mental hospital for observation. It clearly didn't bother his 33% fan base at all. I taught in public schools for 31 years and we conducted very few penectomies. Perhaps none.)
Atheists are about 4% of Americans; religious "nones" are at a whopping 28-30%. All of LGBTQ folks are about 9% of the U.S. population. But MAGA reserves its most intense animus for a group that measures about .8 to .95% of the population. That's a bogeyman, right there.
 
TSwizzle said:
The real cruelty is the woke that went out of their way to recruit inappropriate candidates into the military. Now that the woke phase is all but over, these people are again, collateral damage in much the same way as Jason Arday at Cambridge. It was bound to end in tears.
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As usual you have zero idea what you are talking about.
 
TSwizzle said:
The real cruelty is the woke that went out of their way to recruit inappropriate candidates into the military. Now that the woke phase is all but over, these people are again, collateral damage in much the same way as Jason Arday at Cambridge. It was bound to end in tears.
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Yeah. Because recruiters have a trans category they have to fill. Recruiter is a duty like no other. As a recruiter, you do not enjoy a guaranteed tour at a particular duty station, normally your hometown. For example, instead of having a three year tour of duty, you get 36 one month tours. You have to meet a headcount each month or off you go. But it is just a headcount. A high school graduate that can pass an ASVAB. There is no race or gender quota mixed in. Recruiters are rewarded for getting smarter folks in and there are caps on dumbasses but this changes with the economy and the unemployment rate.
 
southernhybrid said:
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Her career was over. Her bank account was down to $30, and the only home she had was a two-door Honda Accord.

She’d spent the past few nights sleeping in the driver’s seat outside small-town Walmarts
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That's truly awful.

She should sleep on the passenger side so that the steering wheel doesn't get in the way.
 
TSwizzle said:
The real cruelty is the woke that went out of their way to recruit inappropriate candidates into the military.
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Inappropriate candidates who were successfully performing difficult roles, and earning plaudits from their NCOs? How is someone who was doing a great job and acknowledged as such by their immediate superiors "inappropriate"??



Don't worry, these are rhetorical questions. We all know what you mean.
 
TSwizzle said:
The real cruelty is the woke that went out of their way to recruit inappropriate candidates into the military. Now that the woke phase is all but over, these people are again, collateral damage in much the same way as Jason Arday at Cambridge. It was bound to end in tears.
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I can easily imagine if Swiz lived in the 40s he'd be howling at the rooftops because the military is being desegregated. And Trump supporters forfeited the moral high ground complaining about unqualified people getting roles they can't perform loooong ago.
 
TSwizzle said:
The real cruelty is the woke that went out of their way to recruit inappropriate candidates into the military. Now that the woke phase is all but over, these people are again, collateral damage in much the same way as Jason Arday at Cambridge. It was bound to end in tears.
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I'd REALLY like you to tease out the word "inappropriate".

This woman was doing the job, and doing it well.
 
spikepipsqueak said:
TSwizzle said:
The real cruelty is the woke that went out of their way to recruit inappropriate candidates into the military. Now that the woke phase is all but over, these people are again, collateral damage in much the same way as Jason Arday at Cambridge. It was bound to end in tears.
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I'd REALLY like you to tease out the word "inappropriate".

This woman was doing the job, and doing it well.
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First of all, “Chloe” is not a woman.

To be honest, I didn’t read the article because it is behind a paywall. But I can still use Sam Brinton as a point of reference. I’m sure the article is going to be bias and tug on the heart strings of the woke. Maybe “she” was doing a good job and maybe “she” wasn’t.
 
TSwizzle said:
spikepipsqueak said:
TSwizzle said:
The real cruelty is the woke that went out of their way to recruit inappropriate candidates into the military. Now that the woke phase is all but over, these people are again, collateral damage in much the same way as Jason Arday at Cambridge. It was bound to end in tears.
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I'd REALLY like you to tease out the word "inappropriate".

This woman was doing the job, and doing it well.
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First of all, “Chloe” is not a woman.

To be honest, I didn’t read the article because it is behind a paywall. But I can still use Sam Brinton as a point of reference. I’m sure the article is going to be bias and tug on the heart strings of the woke. Maybe “she” was doing a good job and maybe “she” wasn’t.
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But thankfully, bigots like some present comany, don't need actual facts to get in the way of their evidence-free judgements of how "appropriate" a trans soldiers is.
 
TSwizzle said:
The real cruelty is the woke that went out of their way to recruit inappropriate candidates into the military. Now that the woke phase is all but over, these people are again, collateral damage in much the same way as Jason Arday at Cambridge. It was bound to end in tears.
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TSwizzle said:
spikepipsqueak said:
TSwizzle said:
The real cruelty is the woke that went out of their way to recruit inappropriate candidates into the military. Now that the woke phase is all but over, these people are again, collateral damage in much the same way as Jason Arday at Cambridge. It was bound to end in tears.
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I'd REALLY like you to tease out the word "inappropriate".

This woman was doing the job, and doing it well.
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First of all, “Chloe” is not a woman.

To be honest, I didn’t read the article because it is behind a paywall. But I can still use Sam Brinton as a point of reference. I’m sure the article is going to be bias and tug on the heart strings of the woke. Maybe “she” was doing a good job and maybe “she” wasn’t.
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If she wasn't a woman, then by your metric she was a man.

I'm pretty sure they're allowed in the army.

What is it about transgender people that you feel disqualifies them from doing good work in some roles?
 
spikepipsqueak said:
TSwizzle said:
The real cruelty is the woke that went out of their way to recruit inappropriate candidates into the military. Now that the woke phase is all but over, these people are again, collateral damage in much the same way as Jason Arday at Cambridge. It was bound to end in tears.
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TSwizzle said:
spikepipsqueak said:
TSwizzle said:
The real cruelty is the woke that went out of their way to recruit inappropriate candidates into the military. Now that the woke phase is all but over, these people are again, collateral damage in much the same way as Jason Arday at Cambridge. It was bound to end in tears.
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I'd REALLY like you to tease out the word "inappropriate".

This woman was doing the job, and doing it well.
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First of all, “Chloe” is not a woman.

To be honest, I didn’t read the article because it is behind a paywall. But I can still use Sam Brinton as a point of reference. I’m sure the article is going to be bias and tug on the heart strings of the woke. Maybe “she” was doing a good job and maybe “she” wasn’t.
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If she wasn't a woman, then by your metric she was a man.
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A man that cosplays being a woman. Something not quite right with that.
spikepipsqueak said:
I'm pretty sure they're allowed in the army.

What is it about transgender people that you feel disqualifies them from doing good work in some roles?
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Like Sam Brinton for example?
 
TSwizzle said:
spikepipsqueak said:
TSwizzle said:
The real cruelty is the woke that went out of their way to recruit inappropriate candidates into the military. Now that the woke phase is all but over, these people are again, collateral damage in much the same way as Jason Arday at Cambridge. It was bound to end in tears.
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TSwizzle said:
spikepipsqueak said:
TSwizzle said:
The real cruelty is the woke that went out of their way to recruit inappropriate candidates into the military. Now that the woke phase is all but over, these people are again, collateral damage in much the same way as Jason Arday at Cambridge. It was bound to end in tears.
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I'd REALLY like you to tease out the word "inappropriate".

This woman was doing the job, and doing it well.
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First of all, “Chloe” is not a woman.

To be honest, I didn’t read the article because it is behind a paywall. But I can still use Sam Brinton as a point of reference. I’m sure the article is going to be bias and tug on the heart strings of the woke. Maybe “she” was doing a good job and maybe “she” wasn’t.
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If she wasn't a woman, then by your metric she was a man.
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A man that cosplays being a woman. Something not quite right with that.
spikepipsqueak said:
I'm pretty sure they're allowed in the army.

What is it about transgender people that you feel disqualifies them from doing good work in some roles?
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Like Sam Brinton for example?
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Cosplay: I suspect you have no idea how much of that goes on.

Sam Brinton: I am an Australian and have no idea of the shorthand point you are trying to make. A short dive into google didn't make it much clearer.

I'll ask again. What aspect of a transgender person, or a gender fluid person, do you think renders them incompetent?
 
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