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Mike Lindell, crappy pillow hawker, ex-coke addict now addicted to religion and Bonespurs, has announced that August 13th is the day Jabba The Gut will be reinstated.

https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-lindell-claims-august-13-trump-reinstatement-2021-7

If he gets sued again he can always claim the "I am an Ignoramus" defense. No judge will doubt his sincerity.

I think it's called (heard it referred to as) the "Sgt. Schultz defense".
 

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Mike Lindell, crappy pillow hawker, ex-coke addict now addicted to religion and Bonespurs, has announced that August 13th is the day Jabba The Gut will be reinstated.

https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-lindell-claims-august-13-trump-reinstatement-2021-7

If he gets sued again he can always claim the "I am an Ignoramus" defense. No judge will doubt his sincerity.

I'm not so sure. Lindell and many other Trumpists remind me of Bruce Willis' character in Sixth Sense. In case anyone has yet to see that movie I'll hide the plot twist:

Willis' character didn't know that he was stupid.

 

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Mike Lindell, crappy pillow hawker, ex-coke addict now addicted to religion and Bonespurs, has announced that August 13th is the day Jabba The Gut will be reinstated.

https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-lindell-claims-august-13-trump-reinstatement-2021-7

If he gets sued again he can always claim the "I am an Ignoramus" defense. No judge will doubt his sincerity.

I'm not so sure. Lindell and many other Trumpists remind me of Bruce Willis' character in Sixth Sense. In case anyone has yet to see that movie I'll hide the plot twist:

Willis' character didn't know that he was stupid.


I had that sign above my desk in my office at work. "I see stupid people everywhere. They don't even know they're stupid."
 

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The sanctions hearing in Michigan.

[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/MWiuX9CPOSA[/YOUTUBE]
 

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From the 2016 election and can't remember if there is a more appropriate thread. According to The Guardian, they have leaked Kremlin memos that:

Vladimir Putin personally authorised a secret spy agency operation to support a “mentally unstable” Donald Trump in the 2016 US presidential election during a closed session of Russia’s national security council, according to what are assessed to be leaked Kremlin documents.

The key meeting took place on 22 January 2016, the papers suggest, with the Russian president, his spy chiefs and senior ministers all present.

They agreed a Trump White House would help secure Moscow’s strategic objectives, among them “social turmoil” in the US and a weakening of the American president’s negotiating position.

....

Russia’s three spy agencies were ordered to find practical ways to support Trump, in a decree appearing to bear Putin’s signature.

By this point Trump was the frontrunner in the Republican party’s nomination race. A report prepared by Putin’s expert department recommended Moscow use “all possible force” to ensure a Trump victory.

Western intelligence agencies are understood to have been aware of the documents for some months and to have carefully examined them. The papers, seen by the Guardian, seem to represent a serious and highly unusual leak from within the Kremlin.

The Guardian has shown the documents to independent experts who say they appear to be genuine. Incidental details come across as accurate. The overall tone and thrust is said to be consistent with Kremlin security thinking.
much longer...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house
 

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Pennsylvania Decertifies County's Voting System After Audit

Pennsylvania's top election official has decertified the voting machines of a sparsely populated county that disclosed that it had agreed to requests by local Republican lawmakers and allowed a software firm to inspect the machines as part of an "audit" after the 2020 election.

The action by Acting Secretary of State Veronica Degraffenreid almost certainly means that Fulton County — where officials maintained they did nothing wrong — will have to buy or lease new voting machines.

The lawmakers' request for the “audit” came amid former President Donald Trump’s baseless claims that the 2020 election was rigged against him in Pennsylvania and other battleground states.

Degraffenreid, an appointee of Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf, notified Fulton County officials in a letter Tuesday that the inspection violated state law. It was done in a manner that “was not transparent or bipartisan” and the firm had “no knowledge or expertise in election technology,” Degraffenreid wrote.

“I have no other choice but to decertify the use of Fulton County’s leased Dominion Democracy Suite 5.5A voting system last used in the November 2020 election,” Degraffenreid wrote.

Pennsylvania’s election law gives counties the duty to “maintain proper chain of custody” of ballots and voting systems, requirements that ensure that any election is conducted transparently and that voting systems are not compromised, Degraffenreid wrote.

Dumbasses.
 

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Pennsylvania Decertifies County's Voting System After Audit
Kinda weird, innit?

Many of the same people that are SO UPSET that anyone can say, "Hey, I'm not the gender they put on my birth certificate" and be taken seriously, are the ones saying, "The election was stolen," with no corroboration, and wanting to be taken seriously...
 

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Pennsylvania Decertifies County's Voting System After Audit

Pennsylvania's top election official has decertified the voting machines of a sparsely populated county that disclosed that it had agreed to requests by local Republican lawmakers and allowed a software firm to inspect the machines as part of an "audit" after the 2020 election.

The action by Acting Secretary of State Veronica Degraffenreid almost certainly means that Fulton County — where officials maintained they did nothing wrong — will have to buy or lease new voting machines.

The lawmakers' request for the “audit” came amid former President Donald Trump’s baseless claims that the 2020 election was rigged against him in Pennsylvania and other battleground states.

Degraffenreid, an appointee of Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf, notified Fulton County officials in a letter Tuesday that the inspection violated state law. It was done in a manner that “was not transparent or bipartisan” and the firm had “no knowledge or expertise in election technology,” Degraffenreid wrote.

“I have no other choice but to decertify the use of Fulton County’s leased Dominion Democracy Suite 5.5A voting system last used in the November 2020 election,” Degraffenreid wrote.

Pennsylvania’s election law gives counties the duty to “maintain proper chain of custody” of ballots and voting systems, requirements that ensure that any election is conducted transparently and that voting systems are not compromised, Degraffenreid wrote.

Dumbasses.

Did these guys hire those crack auditors, The Cyber Ninjas?
 

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Pennsylvania Decertifies County's Voting System After Audit
Kinda weird, innit?

Many of the same people that are SO UPSET that anyone can say, "Hey, I'm not the gender they put on my birth certificate" and be taken seriously, are the ones saying, "The election was stolen," with no corroboration, and wanting to be taken seriously...

Saying the election was stolen is one thing - switch some 30-40k votes in a few States, and Trump won the electoral college. But idiot Trump saying "we are the majority" after losing by more than 7 MILLION votes and being unable to find one single solitary "fake" vote... and the rubes still believing it - that's a whole other animal entirely. Stoopid is why this country is in trouble.
 

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Saying the election was stolen is one thing - switch some 30-40k votes in a few States, and Trump won the electoral college. But idiot Trump saying "we are the majority" after losing by more than 7 MILLION votes and being unable to find one single solitary "fake" vote... and the rubes still believing it - that's a whole other animal entirely. Stoopid is why this country is in trouble.

I'd never really studied the election results, but the first sentence quoted startled me. I went to the Wikipedia page and checked the numbers.

If
  • 10,342 Biden voters in Wisconsin switched to Trump, and
  • 5229 Biden voters in Arizona switched to Trump, and
  • 5890 Biden voters in Georgia switched to Trump,
Then the Electoral College would have been tied 269-269 with the House making Trump the Prez, IIUC!

In a sense, therefore, one could say that Biden owes his victory to a mere 21,461 voters! (Despite Biden's 7 million popular vote margin.)

That over 74 million Americans voted for Trump remains a matter of great astonishment and grief.
 

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Yes, Biden never won by so much by so little.

Record popular vote? Check.
Won several states Clinton didn't? Check.
Decent sized chunk of popular vote margin? Check.
Won by tight, though not as tight margins as Trump in critical Battleground States? YIPES! Four of them.
 

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Saying the election was stolen is one thing - switch some 30-40k votes in a few States, and Trump won the electoral college. But idiot Trump saying "we are the majority" after losing by more than 7 MILLION votes and being unable to find one single solitary "fake" vote... and the rubes still believing it - that's a whole other animal entirely. Stoopid is why this country is in trouble.

I'd never really studied the election results, but the first sentence quoted startled me. I went to the Wikipedia page and checked the numbers.

If
  • 10,342 Biden voters in Wisconsin switched to Trump, and
  • 5229 Biden voters in Arizona switched to Trump, and
  • 5890 Biden voters in Georgia switched to Trump,
Then the Electoral College would have been tied 269-269 with the House making Trump the Prez, IIUC!

In a sense, therefore, one could say that Biden owes his victory to a mere 21,461 voters! (Despite Biden's 7 million popular vote margin.)

That over 74 million Americans voted for Trump remains a matter of great astonishment and grief.

Trump's win in 2016 was similarly extremely slim. Perhaps even slimmer, though I don't have the numbers at hand.

The ultimate gerrymandering is the state boundaries.
 

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Seen elsewhere. No link so I don't know if it's factual or not.

Looks like the Cyber Ninjas finally published the figures of just who exactly is paying for the illegal recount out there, and to the surprise of absolutely nobody, it's a doozy.

America Project lead by Patrick Byrne (formerly CEO of overstock.com) has donated $3.25 million and is by far the largest contributor.

America's Future, chaired by Michael Flynn has donated about $975,000.

Voices and Votes lead by a pair of OANN personalities who have also been reporting on the recount (ethics? what ethics?) has donated around $600,000.

Defending the Republic, Sidney Powell's group, has donated $550,000.

EIFFTAR, a trump-supporting dark money group, has donated $280,000.
 

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Seen elsewhere. No link so I don't know if it's factual or not.

Looks like the Cyber Ninjas finally published the figures of just who exactly is paying for the illegal recount out there, and to the surprise of absolutely nobody, it's a doozy.

America Project lead by Patrick Byrne (formerly CEO of overstock.com) has donated $3.25 million and is by far the largest contributor.

America's Future, chaired by Michael Flynn has donated about $975,000.

Voices and Votes lead by a pair of OANN personalities who have also been reporting on the recount (ethics? what ethics?) has donated around $600,000.

Defending the Republic, Sidney Powell's group, has donated $550,000.

EIFFTAR, a trump-supporting dark money group, has donated $280,000.
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Man, getting millions to do nothing must be a sweet gig. Surprised Hunter Biden isn't involved. *rimshot*

The ethics of this audit from all of the GOP angles is wretched. 'Oh, we were only doing this to see if the system needed improvements.' Go grind yourself into sausage, you regretful pro-insurrectionist!
 

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Trump supporters going door to door in Pennsylvania demanding to know which candidate voters backed

Donald Trump supporters calling themselves an "election integrity committee" are going door to door in Pennsylvania and demanding to know whom residents voted for in the November election.

York County president commissioner Julie Wheeler, a Republican, said she received numerous calls about alleged voter intimidation by members of the so-called committee, and has referred the matter to law enforcement, the York Dispatch reported Thursday. Wheeler added that the committee has no affiliation with county government.

County officials are currently weighing whether to comply with a "forensic audit" of the 2020 election spearheaded by GOP state Sen. Doug Mastriano, based on the former president's false claims of widespread fraud.

Chad Baker, chair of the Democratic Party of York County, said members of the "election integrity committee" appear to be targeting Democrats.

"There is an intimidation factor, and that's what their intent is," Baker said. "The timing of this doesn't seem suspect given the recent request of the audit by Sen. Mastriano."

Someone came to my door and asked me that they would be meeting my baseball bat.
 

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Trump supporters going door to door in Pennsylvania demanding to know which candidate voters backed

Donald Trump supporters calling themselves an "election integrity committee" are going door to door in Pennsylvania and demanding to know whom residents voted for in the November election.

York County president commissioner Julie Wheeler, a Republican, said she received numerous calls about alleged voter intimidation by members of the so-called committee, and has referred the matter to law enforcement, the York Dispatch reported Thursday. Wheeler added that the committee has no affiliation with county government.

County officials are currently weighing whether to comply with a "forensic audit" of the 2020 election spearheaded by GOP state Sen. Doug Mastriano, based on the former president's false claims of widespread fraud.

Chad Baker, chair of the Democratic Party of York County, said members of the "election integrity committee" appear to be targeting Democrats.

"There is an intimidation factor, and that's what their intent is," Baker said. "The timing of this doesn't seem suspect given the recent request of the audit by Sen. Mastriano."

Someone came to my door and asked me that they would be meeting my baseball bat.

Well that response is just un-American.


You should shoot them.

 

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Trump supporters going door to door in Pennsylvania demanding to know which candidate voters backed

Donald Trump supporters calling themselves an "election integrity committee" are going door to door in Pennsylvania and demanding to know whom residents voted for in the November election.

York County president commissioner Julie Wheeler, a Republican, said she received numerous calls about alleged voter intimidation by members of the so-called committee, and has referred the matter to law enforcement, the York Dispatch reported Thursday. Wheeler added that the committee has no affiliation with county government.

County officials are currently weighing whether to comply with a "forensic audit" of the 2020 election spearheaded by GOP state Sen. Doug Mastriano, based on the former president's false claims of widespread fraud.

Chad Baker, chair of the Democratic Party of York County, said members of the "election integrity committee" appear to be targeting Democrats.

"There is an intimidation factor, and that's what their intent is," Baker said. "The timing of this doesn't seem suspect given the recent request of the audit by Sen. Mastriano."

Someone came to my door and asked me that they would be meeting my baseball bat.

Well that response is just un-American.


You should shoot them.


I don't have any guns.
 

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Trumpies will beat you with a U.S. flag. We saw this on 1/6. But does anyone dare to propose flag control? I think not. Even the little hand flags can be a nasty weapon in the wrong hands. They are easily concealed. And of course, the giant banners, which some flag collectors just have to own...Just wait til the street gangs get them.
Perhaps there should be a limit on how many flags one person can own.
 

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Trump supporters going door to door in Pennsylvania demanding to know which candidate voters backed

Donald Trump supporters calling themselves an "election integrity committee" are going door to door in Pennsylvania and demanding to know whom residents voted for in the November election.

York County president commissioner Julie Wheeler, a Republican, said she received numerous calls about alleged voter intimidation by members of the so-called committee, and has referred the matter to law enforcement, the York Dispatch reported Thursday. Wheeler added that the committee has no affiliation with county government.

County officials are currently weighing whether to comply with a "forensic audit" of the 2020 election spearheaded by GOP state Sen. Doug Mastriano, based on the former president's false claims of widespread fraud.

Chad Baker, chair of the Democratic Party of York County, said members of the "election integrity committee" appear to be targeting Democrats.

"There is an intimidation factor, and that's what their intent is," Baker said. "The timing of this doesn't seem suspect given the recent request of the audit by Sen. Mastriano."

Someone came to my door and asked me that they would be meeting my baseball bat.

This is from the same party that freaked out at the idea of people going door to door to disseminate information about vaccinations, right?
 

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This is from the same party that freaked out at the idea of people going door to door to disseminate information about vaccinations, right?
And still you expect consistency?
Or even continuity?
Memory?
...an attention span...?

Pshaw....

Oh no. I don’t expect consistency. I long ago gave up on hearing anything other than the highest of hypocrisies out of the Republican Party, it’s members and followers.
 

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I understand Aussies know how to use a rope "Tie my Kangaroo down sport".

So you should understand "Git a rope".

... and what's unamerican about "I don't have any guns." The second amendment is not the command to bear arms. Why is it so convenient to switch may to must.

Gotcha?
 

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Obviously you're not a real American.

ICE, deport this guy!

Actually only about 42 percent of the homes in the US have firearms.

Makes sense. You ask any American who is the biggest un-American and you'll get an answer like Tucker Carlson, Nancy Pelosi or Simone Biles depending on the person.

In other words, the most un-American people are other Yanks.
 

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I literally have no idea what the fuck this guy is talking about:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMOF_6Ts55U[/youtube]
 

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It doesn't warrant that level of disdain. Hacking systems by means of minor connected devices is a real thing--if you can take over some unimportant device that doesn't have good defenses (and an awful lot of IoT things are very poorly-secured linux installations) you can use it to launch attacks on other devices on the same network with a local IP rather than a world IP.
 

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It doesn't warrant that level of disdain. Hacking systems by means of minor connected devices is a real thing--if you can take over some unimportant device that doesn't have good defenses (and an awful lot of IoT things are very poorly-secured linux installations) you can use it to launch attacks on other devices on the same network with a local IP rather than a world IP.
Much harder to change votes via thermostats when the votes are on paper.
 

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It doesn't warrant that level of disdain. Hacking systems by means of minor connected devices is a real thing--if you can take over some unimportant device that doesn't have good defenses (and an awful lot of IoT things are very poorly-secured linux installations) you can use it to launch attacks on other devices on the same network with a local IP rather than a world IP.
Yes, it is possible under the right conditions, sure.
But the disdain is proper because time after time after time the election process for 2020 has withstood scrutiny.
The witnesses are misrepresenting their experiences, their credentials, the facts.
The lawyers are flat out lying. Until they're in front of a judge.
The claims of fraud are rife and rampant...where Trump lost.
This is an appeal to The Big Lie with a touch of xenophobia thrown in.
Gimmee a god damned break. Or evidence. Gimmee the slightest reason to think this could possibly have happened, then show that it DID happen, then maybe we can do something about it.
Until then, though? This is more like Jack Chick ranting about the Catholic Church doing "evil" things to good Americans than it is about a fraud investigation. So....


:LD:
 

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Trump allies including Giuliani lose bid to dismiss Dominion vote machine lawsuits

Three prominent allies of former U.S. President Donald Trump -Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell and Mike Lindell - on Wednesday lost a bid to dismiss multibillion dollar lawsuits saying their false claims about the 2020 presidential election defamed the Dominion voting equipment company.

U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols in Washington D.C. said in a written decision that lawsuits brought against the trio by Dominion Voting Systems should move forward. The company had said it was defamed because Trump and his supporters spread false claims that it rigged the election against him.

Nichols held that the First Amendment, which protects the right to free speech, offers "no blanket immunity" to Powell and Lindell in the lawsuits. Powell is a lawyer who later left the Trump campaign. Lindell is a conspiracy theorist who founded a (shitty) pillow and bedding company.

The judge also rejected an argument by Giuliani, a former U.S. prosecutor and mayor of New York, that Dominion had not explained its request for money damages with enough specificity.

A Dominion spokesperson said: "We are pleased to see this process moving forward to hold (the defendants) accountable."

The Dominion lawsuits have already made it farther than the election lawsuits.
 

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MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell fled the stage at his cyber symposium at the same time news broke that Dominion's billion-dollar defamation lawsuit against him would proceed

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell was seen dashing off the stage at his cyber symposium Wednesday at the same time news broke that the $1.3 billion defamation suit filed against him by Dominion Voting Systems would go ahead.

Lindell attempted to have the defamation lawsuit dismissed during a hearing in June. But US District Judge Carl J. Nichols on Wednesday ruled the three defamation lawsuits against Lindell and the pro-Trump lawyers Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani could proceed in full. The suits are seeking more than a billion dollars in damages from each party.

After news emerged at about 6 p.m. on Wednesday that his attempt to have the lawsuit dismissed was unsuccessful, Lindell was seen on video getting off his seat and rushing off the stage abruptly, disappearing behind a dark curtain.

At the time of this article's publication, Lindell hadn't returned, and the livestream of the cyber symposium was replaced by a video reel showing news articles touting voter-fraud claims next to an image of Lindell hugging a pillow.

I suspect a bankruptcy in the near future.
 
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