hurtinbuckaroo
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Now the Georgia Secretary of State is saying the certification is not complete. What a cluster fark.
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lpetrich
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Senior GOP lawmakers grow anxious over Trump's effort to overturn election results - CNNPolitics
But many other Republican politicians continue to support Trump's state-legislature Electoral College end run.
Along with Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah.
But many other Republican politicians continue to support Trump's state-legislature Electoral College end run.
Georgia has certified Biden's win.
lpetrich
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Kayleigh McEnany tells CNN's Kaitlan Collins, 'I don't call on activists' | Boston.com - has full briefing in some inlined video
Aaron Rupar on Twitter: "Kayleigh McEnany won't acknowledge @BrianKarem's repeated shouted questions about when the administration will acknowledge that Trump lost the election https://t.co/kuk7k4rTFV" / Twitter
Aaron Rupar on Twitter: "Kayleigh McEnany has no idea what "Orwellian" means https://t.co/aXOz02fXtP" / Twitter
Kaitlan Collins on Twitter: "Appearing in her professional capacity, @PressSec takes only a handful of questions in her first briefing since Oct. 1. Asked why can’t call on all reporters — given it’s been so long and there are not many of us due to social distancing — she called me “an activist.”" / Twitter
Kaitlan Collins on Twitter: "It’s understandable why someone who hasn’t done their job — taking questions from reporters — in weeks would confuse someone else doing theirs with activism." / Twitter
Aaron Rupar on Twitter: "Kayleigh McEnany won't acknowledge @BrianKarem's repeated shouted questions about when the administration will acknowledge that Trump lost the election https://t.co/kuk7k4rTFV" / Twitter
Aaron Rupar on Twitter: "Kayleigh McEnany has no idea what "Orwellian" means https://t.co/aXOz02fXtP" / Twitter
Kaitlan Collins on Twitter: "Appearing in her professional capacity, @PressSec takes only a handful of questions in her first briefing since Oct. 1. Asked why can’t call on all reporters — given it’s been so long and there are not many of us due to social distancing — she called me “an activist.”" / Twitter
Kaitlan Collins on Twitter: "It’s understandable why someone who hasn’t done their job — taking questions from reporters — in weeks would confuse someone else doing theirs with activism." / Twitter
lpetrich
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Trump meets with Michigan lawmakers as part of challenge to Biden win
Good that those legislators are refusing to create a slate of Trump electors just because Trump seems to want that.
Swammerdami
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There's one point that is often overlooked. Biden won rather convincingly. Trump might have to further subvert THREE of the close states to prevent a Biden Presidency.
Imagine an alternate universe where this election was like 2000 and could be reversed by flipping a single state.
Cheating in Michigan would be a great way to kiss Trump's ass, but that brat may soon be impotent. Many Republicans now feel that, going forward from here, taking the side of America, democracy, and the rule of law is the way to win continued support from voters and donors.
But suppose that the election were close and that flipping Michigan were enough to give Trump another four years. Does anyone think that Shirkey and Chatfield would have upheld the same "simple truths"? (Disclaimer: I know nothing about these two other than the "R" by their names; it's not inconceivable that they aren't even criminals.)
Maybe. But the odds are against it. If it would have kept the WH in the hands of the right-wing evil-doers, most of the Repugniclans now getting credit for taking the side of American democracy would be gleefully helping to steal this election. The fact that there's so much impetus to cheat, despite that three states have to swing for the cheat to work, shows that I was right in my prediction: If the election had been close, the GOP would have won by post-election cheating. Let this be a lesson for 2024. When analyzing the EC, figure that the GOP needs only 250, the Ds need at least 290.
Yes, a teeny tiny number of Republicans do support democracy and it's possible that, by chance, Shirkey and Chatfield are such four-leaf clovers. But the general principle remains: Had Biden won by 20 electoral votes or less, we'd be moving toward a coup right now. Even as is, the only thing making a Biden inauguration likely is Trump. A few of the evil right-wing GOPsters who'd be happy to cheat and install one of their fellows as President, are less eager to want four more years of this doltish and insecure brat.
Imagine an alternate universe where this election was like 2000 and could be reversed by flipping a single state.
Cheating in Michigan would be a great way to kiss Trump's ass, but that brat may soon be impotent. Many Republicans now feel that, going forward from here, taking the side of America, democracy, and the rule of law is the way to win continued support from voters and donors.
But suppose that the election were close and that flipping Michigan were enough to give Trump another four years. Does anyone think that Shirkey and Chatfield would have upheld the same "simple truths"? (Disclaimer: I know nothing about these two other than the "R" by their names; it's not inconceivable that they aren't even criminals.)
Maybe. But the odds are against it. If it would have kept the WH in the hands of the right-wing evil-doers, most of the Repugniclans now getting credit for taking the side of American democracy would be gleefully helping to steal this election. The fact that there's so much impetus to cheat, despite that three states have to swing for the cheat to work, shows that I was right in my prediction: If the election had been close, the GOP would have won by post-election cheating. Let this be a lesson for 2024. When analyzing the EC, figure that the GOP needs only 250, the Ds need at least 290.
Yes, a teeny tiny number of Republicans do support democracy and it's possible that, by chance, Shirkey and Chatfield are such four-leaf clovers. But the general principle remains: Had Biden won by 20 electoral votes or less, we'd be moving toward a coup right now. Even as is, the only thing making a Biden inauguration likely is Trump. A few of the evil right-wing GOPsters who'd be happy to cheat and install one of their fellows as President, are less eager to want four more years of this doltish and insecure brat.
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southernhybrid
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Georgia's Republican governor, no friend of mine, explained why he certified the vote.
https://www.ajc.com/politics/politics-blog/ajc-interview-why-kemp-formalized-georgias-election-despite-trumps-pushback/YUBNYHA2CRA65I7JVEF4GWATJU/
He is calling for absentee ballots to include voter ID in the future, but that is just another way of making it difficult for poor homebound people to vote. Not everyone has access to a copying machine or a computer where they can download their ID, so it would make it more difficult to change the rules for absentee voting. Anyway, that would need to be passed by the legislature and it has no bearing on the current election results. If Trump wants one more recount, it will only be done by machine. The results aren't going to change. Biden won Georgia.
Kemp also mentioned that the Republicans must get out and vote for the two assholes who are running for the Senate in the January runoff. Well, he didn't exactly call them assholes but they do have an R after their names and their is some evidence that they are both corrupt, so.....
https://www.ajc.com/politics/politics-blog/ajc-interview-why-kemp-formalized-georgias-election-despite-trumps-pushback/YUBNYHA2CRA65I7JVEF4GWATJU/
He is calling for absentee ballots to include voter ID in the future, but that is just another way of making it difficult for poor homebound people to vote. Not everyone has access to a copying machine or a computer where they can download their ID, so it would make it more difficult to change the rules for absentee voting. Anyway, that would need to be passed by the legislature and it has no bearing on the current election results. If Trump wants one more recount, it will only be done by machine. The results aren't going to change. Biden won Georgia.
Kemp also mentioned that the Republicans must get out and vote for the two assholes who are running for the Senate in the January runoff. Well, he didn't exactly call them assholes but they do have an R after their names and their is some evidence that they are both corrupt, so.....
Swammerdami
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https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1329508799288381441
That's right. Of the next eight Republicans you meet, seven of them will be hopelessly ignorant dunces or lying hypocrites. Eighty-eight percent!
In his latest CNN appearance Fareed Zakaria compares Trump with other autocrats like General Pinochet of Chile. Pinochet stepped down when he lost an election; while Trump's behavior is unprecedented, at least among countries where elections are more than a laughable sham. Biden will make no progress on anything without support from 'Moscow Mitch' McConnell and eleven other Repugnant Senators. American politics will remain dysfunctional for many years if not decades.
What will happen to Trump? Most likely, I suppose, is that he will found a new cable-TV channel, similar to, but out-stupiding, Alex Jones' Infowars. Don Jr. and Eric will participate, ready to cover for Dad when his senility is too blatant. To fill 24 hours, they'll have infomercials for Trump Beer, Trump Porn, Trump-brand adult diapers, etc., and will be hosting Bible-thumpers who agree to split the loot. There will be Trump News, assisted by bimboes defected from Fox'n'Friends, selling news from Putin or whoever the highest bidder is. Millions of Americans will lap it up.
What a colossal tragedy this has all turned into.
"a new YouGov poll of 1,500 registered voters revealed that 88 percent of [Trump voters] think Donald Trump was the rightful winner of the 2020 election.
There is no sign whatsoever that Trump will ever concede the election or cease trying to discredit it. "
There is no sign whatsoever that Trump will ever concede the election or cease trying to discredit it. "
That's right. Of the next eight Republicans you meet, seven of them will be hopelessly ignorant dunces or lying hypocrites. Eighty-eight percent!
In his latest CNN appearance Fareed Zakaria compares Trump with other autocrats like General Pinochet of Chile. Pinochet stepped down when he lost an election; while Trump's behavior is unprecedented, at least among countries where elections are more than a laughable sham. Biden will make no progress on anything without support from 'Moscow Mitch' McConnell and eleven other Repugnant Senators. American politics will remain dysfunctional for many years if not decades.
What will happen to Trump? Most likely, I suppose, is that he will found a new cable-TV channel, similar to, but out-stupiding, Alex Jones' Infowars. Don Jr. and Eric will participate, ready to cover for Dad when his senility is too blatant. To fill 24 hours, they'll have infomercials for Trump Beer, Trump Porn, Trump-brand adult diapers, etc., and will be hosting Bible-thumpers who agree to split the loot. There will be Trump News, assisted by bimboes defected from Fox'n'Friends, selling news from Putin or whoever the highest bidder is. Millions of Americans will lap it up.
What a colossal tragedy this has all turned into.
southernhybrid
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These polls are all over the place, so I doubt that any of them are accurate. I've read that anywhere between 30 and 80% of Republicans don't think that Biden won. Most of them are based on a small number of participants. There are some Republicans who either believe that Biden didn't win or the election was rigged, but I seriously doubt it's as high as 88%. These polls are about as valid as the ones that said the Democrats would increase their wins in the House and easily take back the Senate, imo.
But, yes. It's crazy that so many people are still sucking up to Trump. Trump doesn't care about the country or anything but himself. It's very sad that so many people have been sucked up into his horrible cult.
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The system has always relied on the assumption that, once it became obvious that he had lost, a president would concede, congratulate his opponent, and start the transition process.
That's been assumed for ever, if for no other reason than that it's obviously very damaging to the country if it doesn't happen, and obviously the president will always put the country ahead of any other considerations.
We are now seeing what happens when these assumptions are incorrect.
That's been assumed for ever, if for no other reason than that it's obviously very damaging to the country if it doesn't happen, and obviously the president will always put the country ahead of any other considerations.
We are now seeing what happens when these assumptions are incorrect.
crazyfingers
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There are two kinds of Trumpers out there.
Suckups: Suckups include other GOP politicians who either believe or don't believe Trump's delisions but are afraid to cross him because Trump has a huge deluded following that these politicians are afraid to cross because they will need their votes in the future. So these suckups will never cross Trump until Trump loses his crazy cultists. The Suckup also include people in right wing media make-believe-land who stand to make tons of money pandering to Trump and his delusional Cult base. I include in that Fox, Newmax,and other independents media and crazy conspiracy theory pushers who stand to make big bucks off of advertising and other sources for continuing to throw gasoline on the fire of Trump's crazy rantings.
Cult followers. These people have nothing in particular to gain in tangible terms to following Trump but Trump and the right-wing media have fed them a pile of horse shit and they gulp it down as they continue to detach from reality and live in their world of hate and craziness that fits their racist, etc... personalities.
Suckups: Suckups include other GOP politicians who either believe or don't believe Trump's delisions but are afraid to cross him because Trump has a huge deluded following that these politicians are afraid to cross because they will need their votes in the future. So these suckups will never cross Trump until Trump loses his crazy cultists. The Suckup also include people in right wing media make-believe-land who stand to make tons of money pandering to Trump and his delusional Cult base. I include in that Fox, Newmax,and other independents media and crazy conspiracy theory pushers who stand to make big bucks off of advertising and other sources for continuing to throw gasoline on the fire of Trump's crazy rantings.
Cult followers. These people have nothing in particular to gain in tangible terms to following Trump but Trump and the right-wing media have fed them a pile of horse shit and they gulp it down as they continue to detach from reality and live in their world of hate and craziness that fits their racist, etc... personalities.
[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyLpbO5S4xE[/YOUTUBE]
crazyfingers
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Federal Judge in PA throws Trump lawyer out on his ears for providing no legal argument worth a 1/4 a can of spoiled beans and zero evidence. Trump wanted to invalidate 6 MILLION votes in PA
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/21/poli...smisses-trump-pennsylvania-lawsuit/index.html
There have to some sort of crime to even try to do this.
ETA
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...097fbe-2c50-11eb-9b14-ad872157ebc9_story.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/21/poli...smisses-trump-pennsylvania-lawsuit/index.html
There have to some sort of crime to even try to do this.
ETA
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...097fbe-2c50-11eb-9b14-ad872157ebc9_story.html
lpetrich
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Georgia's GOP governor and secretary of state certify Biden win, quashing Trump's longshot attempt to overturn results - CNNPolitics
The next big date is the upcoming Monday, when PA's and MI's certifications are due. The day after that is when NV's is due, and the next Monday when AZ's is due.
Georgia governor calls for audit after state certifies election results - CBS News
So that's done.
The next big date is the upcoming Monday, when PA's and MI's certifications are due. The day after that is when NV's is due, and the next Monday when AZ's is due.