# Alex Jones did WHAaaAAAaattT????

#### Jimmy Higgins

##### Contributor
Some days in 2018, InfoWars was making $800,000 a day. "Well after your deplatforming, your numbers keep getting better," Sandy Hook parents' lawyer says. If they keep that up, that's ~$300 mill. a year.

#### Ford

##### Contributor

Alex Jones: "Look, I have spent years building up my brand!"

Attorney: "Yeah, and I spent years in law school. Studying."

##### Veteran Member

It's like watching flat earthers congratulate each other on how good they are at physics.

##### Loony Running The Asylum
Staff member

Alex Jones: "Look, I have spent years building up my brand!"

Attorney: "Yeah, and I spent years in law school. Studying."

I just saw that part of the clip from the trial. Devastating.

##### Loony Running The Asylum
Staff member
Here it is in all its glory!

##### Loony Running The Asylum
Staff member
Here's a little longer version.

Smoke gets in your eyes, you get burned!

Smoke gets in your eyes, you get burned!

Staff member

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Daaammmnnnnn!

#### Jarhyn

##### Wizard
And then the big question... Did Alex Jones text Trump?

#### Cheerful Charlie

##### Contributor
I hope Alex Jones wore his Depends today. I suspect Jones' next meeting with his attorney is going to be very interesting.

#### Jarhyn

##### Wizard
I hope Alex Jones wore his Depends today. I suspect Jones' next meeting with his attorney is going to be very interesting.
I've known adults who shit themselves on purpose who have more composure and dignity than Alex Jones at this point.

#### Loren Pechtel

##### Super Moderator
Staff member
Accident, or a lawyer who didn't want to be a party to illegal actions?

Ha.

#### Jarhyn

##### Wizard

Ha.
Well, there it is...

Oof.

#### Swammerdami

Staff member
I guess the Alex Jones jury is now deliberating damages. I have a question but I'm a poor Googler; I hope someone here can help.

If the jurors unanimously agree on the same dollar figure, I guess their job is done, but what if they can't? Surely it can't be just "take the arithmetic mean": If one juror disliked Jones and wanted him to pay $200 million, he could say "$2.4 billion" and get his way even if the other eleven opt for Zero. Pure geometric mean wouldn't work either. Is there a procedure to come up with a number when jurors don't agree?

#### marc

##### Veteran Member

Ha.
Well, there it is...

Oof.
Heard he plead the fifth nearly 100 times in his deposition for the Jan 6 committee.

Well I think they are going to get some real answers to their questions, along with a lot more questions and probably a bunch of people to call in to answer them. Can't wait for the second season of the committee hearings!

##### Loony Running The Asylum
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The stupid part of the trial.

#### Gospel

##### Unify Africa
Alex Jones lawyer did WHAaaAAAaattT????

Edit: Would that be consider malpractice on the lawyers part? Their partners must be scrambling about with papers flying all over the offices right now.

#### TomC

##### Celestial Highness

Wouldn't it be fun if one of the partners dumped the mother of his children for a Trumpish trophy wife. But she knew his passwords and gave them to an office menial, who then found the folder marked "Jones Emails" and sent the folder to Sandy Hook lawyers.

Then quit.

Tom

#### starwater

##### Veteran Member
There was no "mistake" on the lawyers part, or whoever pushed the send button knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

#### TomC

##### Celestial Highness
There was no "mistake" on the lawyers part, or whoever pushed the send button knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
How could you possibly know that?
Tom

#### Jarhyn

##### Wizard
There was no "mistake" on the lawyers part, or whoever pushed the send button knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
How could you possibly know that?
Tom
Yeah, like, if they were a dumbshit and thew all their files in one folder and control-clicked or shift-clicked to select a set and that set alphabetically included the source file they were decompressed from, and sent them all, oh yeah. Totally could have happened.

It's one of the common blunders of sending file batches, to decompress them to the source folder and accidentally send the compressed source.

#### TomC

##### Celestial Highness
Yeah, like, if they were a dumbshit and thew all their files in one folder and control-clicked or shift-clicked to select a set and that set alphabetically included the source file they were decompressed from, and sent them all, oh yeah. Totally could have happened.

Do you realize that lots of successful people wouldn't even know what you're talking about?

That there are people out there who don't grasp the difference between a file in your cabinet and a file in your computer?
Tom

#### starwater

##### Veteran Member
There was no "mistake" on the lawyers part, or whoever pushed the send button knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
How could you possibly know that?
Tom
Its just too convenient. There is something going on behind the scenes.

#### TomC

##### Celestial Highness
There was no "mistake" on the lawyers part, or whoever pushed the send button knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
How could you possibly know that?
Tom
Its just too convenient. There is something going on behind the scenes.
That was my point.

What that is I don't claim to know.

Which is why I responded to your post.
Tom

##### Loony Running The Asylum
Staff member
There was no "mistake" on the lawyers part, or whoever pushed the send button knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
I think it depends on what was asked for in discovery.

I also wonder if this was done to create a loophole to claim incompetant representation in an appeal.

#### blastula

##### Contributor
They were required to produce the texts, so it's not exactly incompetent to do so.

Accidentally emailing the wrong person happens all the time.

#### TomC

##### Celestial Highness
Accidentally emailing the wrong person happens all the time.
Ha ha ha...

I'm old enough to remember
"The ugly moment when you realize that you hit 'reply all"

Tom

#### Jarhyn

##### Wizard
Yeah, like, if they were a dumbshit and thew all their files in one folder and control-clicked or shift-clicked to select a set and that set alphabetically included the source file they were decompressed from, and sent them all, oh yeah. Totally could have happened.

Do you realize that lots of successful people wouldn't even know what you're talking about?

That there are people out there who don't grasp the difference between a file in your cabinet and a file in your computer?
Tom
Yes, that's why I'm explaining exactly how and why it is easy, and so that they may grasp the difference and thus see how they can be easily mixed up and mishandled.

Even so, let's just say I'm agnostic on the intent/accident debate. It's plausible either could have happened and we're never going to know which, unless it was intentional and admitted as such

#### Gospel

##### Unify Africa
To my understanding, the lawyers themselves don't actually handle the distribution of files (digital or physical), it's usually someone on the partners staff whos entire job is to manage the process professionally. In my 10 years of processing mechanics lien waivers I've never once accidently sent a lien waiver in error and I process 50 mechanics lien waivers per day. To top it off, I can't imagine screwing up one with over a million dollars on the line while my wallet has an erection. I also handle collections, claims for over 1000 highly active clients. To name drop two, Disney & Lockheed Martin along with every single plumbing company registered to do business in the state of Florida (Yes every single one and I deal directly with 60% of the owners).

Maybe staff members at law offices have a substantially higher rate of files being handled per day? My work load gives me doubts. You have to be out of your gosh damned mind to screw up a big one.

#### Cheerful Charlie

##### Contributor
This just in. The January 6 Committee has subpeoaned these phone texts and Jones' lawyer has agreed to hand them over to the committee. This just keeps getting better.

#### Jarhyn

##### Wizard
To my understanding, the lawyers themselves don't actually handle the distribution of files (digital or physical), it's usually someone on the partners staff whos entire job is to manage the process professionally. In my 10 years of processing mechanics lien waivers I've never once accidently sent a lien waiver in error and I process 50 mechanics lien waivers per day. To top it off, I can't imagine screwing up one with over a million dollars on the line while my wallet has an erection. I also handle collections, claims for over 1000 highly active clients. To name drop two, Disney & Lockheed Martin along with every single plumbing company registered to do business in the state of Florida (Yes every single one and I deal directly with 60% of the owners).

Maybe staff members at law offices have a substantially higher rate of files being handled per day? My work load gives me doubts. You have to be out of your gosh damned mind to screw up a big one.
We're talking Alex Jones. And whatever lawyer was having a bad enough professional career to think representing Jones wouldn't do any additional damage to their brand.

#### Cheerful Charlie

##### Contributor
To my understanding, the lawyers themselves don't actually handle the distribution of files (digital or physical), it's usually someone on the partners staff whos entire job is to manage the process professionally. In my 10 years of processing mechanics lien waivers I've never once accidently sent a lien waiver in error and I process 50 mechanics lien waivers per day. To top it off, I can't imagine screwing up one with over a million dollars on the line while my wallet has an erection. I also handle collections, claims for over 1000 highly active clients. To name drop two, Disney & Lockheed Martin along with every single plumbing company registered to do business in the state of Florida (Yes every single one and I deal directly with 60% of the owners).

Maybe staff members at law offices have a substantially higher rate of files being handled per day? My work load gives me doubts. You have to be out of your gosh damned mind to screw up a big one.

Maybe Jones or his lawyer pissed off somebody who could do that little deed. It will be very interesting to find out just how this really happened.

#### Jarhyn

##### Wizard
To my understanding, the lawyers themselves don't actually handle the distribution of files (digital or physical), it's usually someone on the partners staff whos entire job is to manage the process professionally. In my 10 years of processing mechanics lien waivers I've never once accidently sent a lien waiver in error and I process 50 mechanics lien waivers per day. To top it off, I can't imagine screwing up one with over a million dollars on the line while my wallet has an erection. I also handle collections, claims for over 1000 highly active clients. To name drop two, Disney & Lockheed Martin along with every single plumbing company registered to do business in the state of Florida (Yes every single one and I deal directly with 60% of the owners).

Maybe staff members at law offices have a substantially higher rate of files being handled per day? My work load gives me doubts. You have to be out of your gosh damned mind to screw up a big one.

Maybe Jones or his lawyer pissed off somebody who could do that little deed. It will be very interesting to find out just how this really happened.
It'll be interesting because I don't think it'll be possible to know, and I don't think whoever did it is going to change their story on how it happened accidentally.

Why would ANYONE decide to fall on that sword? Personally, I really hope it's completely uncertain how it happened, just so that Jones howls more loudly and impotently as his empire of lies implodes on him.

I want his world to be cat piss, and nobody to even be able to find the cat.

#### Ford

##### Contributor
Tonight on Tucker Carlson:

An entire hour devoted to Hunter Biden and his laptop, with a very special update on the Durham Investigation. Stay tuned!

#### Patooka

##### Contributor
Accidentally emailing the wrong person happens all the time.
Ha ha ha...

I'm old enough to remember
"The ugly moment when you realize that you hit 'reply all"

Tom
I am equally old enough to remember training courses for people to make them aware of the dreaded function "Reply all". This is an own goal, an unforced error, a failure in training, a mistake in play, a result of poor coaching.

Pick your sporting metaphor. "Accidentally emailing" wasn't a valid excuse even in the 90's. That excuse is old enough for me to take it out for some drinks, a dance, a restaurant and then consensually fuck afterwards.

To "accidentally email" someone in 2022 is the same thing as having a neon sign stapled to your back that declares "I'm unprofessional and even worse I am incompetent".

#### Elixir

The cat walked on the keyboard.

#### TomC

##### Celestial Highness
Accidentally emailing the wrong person happens all the time.
Ha ha ha...

I'm old enough to remember
"The ugly moment when you realize that you hit 'reply all"

Tom
I am equally old enough to remember training courses for people to make them aware of the dreaded function "Reply all". This is an own goal, an unforced error, a failure in training, a mistake in play, a result of poor coaching.

Pick your sporting metaphor. "Accidentally emailing" wasn't a valid excuse even in the 90's. That excuse is old enough for me to take it out for some drinks, a dance, a restaurant and then consensually fuck afterwards.

To "accidentally email" someone in 2022 is the same thing as having a neon sign stapled to your back that declares "I'm unprofessional and even worse I am incompetent".
The depth of your wisdom and insight is an inspiration to us all.
Tom

#### Jarhyn

##### Wizard
Accidentally emailing the wrong person happens all the time.
Ha ha ha...

I'm old enough to remember
"The ugly moment when you realize that you hit 'reply all"

Tom
I am equally old enough to remember training courses for people to make them aware of the dreaded function "Reply all". This is an own goal, an unforced error, a failure in training, a mistake in play, a result of poor coaching.

Pick your sporting metaphor. "Accidentally emailing" wasn't a valid excuse even in the 90's. That excuse is old enough for me to take it out for some drinks, a dance, a restaurant and then consensually fuck afterwards.

To "accidentally email" someone in 2022 is the same thing as having a neon sign stapled to your back that declares "I'm unprofessional and even worse I am incompetent".
Which is what I expect as "par for the course" as pertains to Jones.

Gosh I want to see that phone's contents so badly

#### Loren Pechtel

##### Super Moderator
Staff member
I guess the Alex Jones jury is now deliberating damages. I have a question but I'm a poor Googler; I hope someone here can help.

If the jurors unanimously agree on the same dollar figure, I guess their job is done, but what if they can't? Surely it can't be just "take the arithmetic mean": If one juror disliked Jones and wanted him to pay $200 million, he could say "$2.4 billion" and get his way even if the other eleven opt for Zero. Pure geometric mean wouldn't work either. Is there a procedure to come up with a number when jurors don't agree?

I've been on a mock jury once and we needed agreement of 2/3 on a number. That could have been the lawyers making it up to shorten things, though. (And it left me with a rather low opinion of the process. It was totally obvious her injuries were radically inflated, the defense presented the smoking gun--and still most of the people wanted to give her 1/3 to 1/5 of what she was asking for.)

#### Loren Pechtel

##### Super Moderator
Staff member
Alex Jones lawyer did WHAaaAAAaattT????

Edit: Would that be consider malpractice on the lawyers part? Their partners must be scrambling about with papers flying all over the offices right now.

I still think it was someone who wasn't willing to be party to failing to disclose information that they were required to.

#### Loren Pechtel

##### Super Moderator
Staff member
Yeah, like, if they were a dumbshit and thew all their files in one folder and control-clicked or shift-clicked to select a set and that set alphabetically included the source file they were decompressed from, and sent them all, oh yeah. Totally could have happened.

Do you realize that lots of successful people wouldn't even know what you're talking about?

That there are people out there who don't grasp the difference between a file in your cabinet and a file in your computer?
Tom
Whether you understand him or not he does have a valid point.

I have dealt with enough cases of dragged folders that the project I current work on specifically is able to detect jobs that got dragged into other jobs and put them back where they should be. I have personally been guilty of opening a screen of files I meant to drag.

#### Jarhyn

##### Wizard
Yeah, like, if they were a dumbshit and thew all their files in one folder and control-clicked or shift-clicked to select a set and that set alphabetically included the source file they were decompressed from, and sent them all, oh yeah. Totally could have happened.

Do you realize that lots of successful people wouldn't even know what you're talking about?

That there are people out there who don't grasp the difference between a file in your cabinet and a file in your computer?
Tom
Whether you understand him or not he does have a valid point.

I have dealt with enough cases of dragged folders that the project I current work on specifically is able to detect jobs that got dragged into other jobs and put them back where they should be. I have personally been guilty of opening a screen of files I meant to drag.
And even an experienced user can have a shit day, and I'm going to expect that sometimes a partition in someone's head will sneak an "engineered error" in that will make them secretly feel good in a way their conscious mind will never understand not be directly aware of.