Narapoia
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- Scientific humanist and an atheist
You actually read like caricature.
Australian Labor are to the right of most governments in the Northern European countries - all of which score better on most economic and quality of life indicators than Australia. (Still I like the beach so not going to live there). Australian Labor is not socialist. If you don't understand that then you literally don't understand politics.
If you can point to anything positive and concrete that the LNP have achieved in the last 6 years go ahead. The party that you label 'socialist' has a better economic record on pretty much every measure than the conservatives as well.
On the flip side - the conservatives have; rolled back a functioning carbon price - ostensibly to lower power bills - which has had the opposite effect and power bill shave gone up significantly. Straight up lied about not cutting funding to the public broadcaster and schooling, wasted billions on an a moronic 'direct action' climate plan while 30% of the great barrier reef was destroyed, fucked up the national broadband network, doubled the deficit during an up economic cycle, tried to undercut the federal revenue base by cutting corporate taxes and failed even though they held a majority in parliament, failed to even pretend to deal with the housing bubble in Sydney and Melbourne that holds at least half a trillion distressed debt and rising as the bubble bursts and prices begin sliding, oversaw record low real wage growth and up to 23% decrease in private capital investments and have refused to deal with tax avoidance from large private and public multinationals. Oh yes - they also did everything they could to prevent the royal commission into banking sector that revealed billions of dollars worth of criminal activity by the major banks - at the expense of the people of Australia. Also unleashed environmental risks like approving oil exploration in the great Australian Bight - fully 1/3 deeper than the deepwater horizon well.
In addition to all this:
Knifed one leader and manufactured a double dissolution election that saw them drop their parliamentary majority to 1 seat with the most popular LNP leader since Howard the rat
Knifed that popular leader after he clawed the rightward lurching LNP back to with in margin of error against Labor because he wasn't conservative enough
Now at a 10% disadvantage going into the federal election and only raving about swarms of illegal immigrants can possibly save them from the same fate as the wipeout they suffered in Victoria few months ago
If you hate Australia, by all means vote for the LNP. They are social and environmental vandals. Their economic record can only be explained by either colossal incompetence or an active desire to concentrate wealth amongst a tiny proportion of the Australian population. Linking this back to AOC - you have to realise that there are growing sectors of the US and Aus populace that look at the records of conservative governments and justifiably call bullshit. They are rigging the game, and even with the help of conservative Murdoch loudspeaker media people are sick of their shit. Either way they don't give a fuck about you - so why are you going to bat for them?
P.S. Oh yeah - they also failed to deal with the fact that in 2021 when Australia overtakes Qatar as the largest natural gas exporter in the world - the Qataris will get almost $27 billion for their gas in royalties, Australians will get around $800 million. It's borderline treason to fail the country this badly.
A fundamental Laborite I see! You're no different to a Moron, or a JW, or even a Muslim fundamentalist! One cannot reason with them, the same as any other fundamentalist. You stick to your story, I'm sure your lord and masters Get Up and Backflip Bill will love you for it!
I don't actually vote Labor - but it's not surprising to see you resort to ad hominems rather than even attempt to debate the pathetic record of the current government or your demonstrated ignorance of the political spectrum. The irony of the matter is that Bill Shorten is an insipid, uninspiring, deeply unpopular opposition leader who couldn't charm a voter out of burning building. Yet he's going to be the next prime minister due to the brazen incompetence and blinkered outlook of the conservatives. A few terms in the wilderness and hopefully the far right of the coalition will splinter into it's own party and save the country from backslides like the last 6 years.
Australian Labor is not perfect, but that's a bar well higher than anything the conservatives can hope to aim for currently or in the near future.