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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

You actually read like caricature.

Australian Labor are to the right of most governments in the Northern European countries - all of which score better on most economic and quality of life indicators than Australia. (Still I like the beach so not going to live there). Australian Labor is not socialist. If you don't understand that then you literally don't understand politics.

If you can point to anything positive and concrete that the LNP have achieved in the last 6 years go ahead. The party that you label 'socialist' has a better economic record on pretty much every measure than the conservatives as well.

On the flip side - the conservatives have; rolled back a functioning carbon price - ostensibly to lower power bills - which has had the opposite effect and power bill shave gone up significantly. Straight up lied about not cutting funding to the public broadcaster and schooling, wasted billions on an a moronic 'direct action' climate plan while 30% of the great barrier reef was destroyed, fucked up the national broadband network, doubled the deficit during an up economic cycle, tried to undercut the federal revenue base by cutting corporate taxes and failed even though they held a majority in parliament, failed to even pretend to deal with the housing bubble in Sydney and Melbourne that holds at least half a trillion distressed debt and rising as the bubble bursts and prices begin sliding, oversaw record low real wage growth and up to 23% decrease in private capital investments and have refused to deal with tax avoidance from large private and public multinationals. Oh yes - they also did everything they could to prevent the royal commission into banking sector that revealed billions of dollars worth of criminal activity by the major banks - at the expense of the people of Australia. Also unleashed environmental risks like approving oil exploration in the great Australian Bight - fully 1/3 deeper than the deepwater horizon well.

In addition to all this:

Knifed one leader and manufactured a double dissolution election that saw them drop their parliamentary majority to 1 seat with the most popular LNP leader since Howard the rat
Knifed that popular leader after he clawed the rightward lurching LNP back to with in margin of error against Labor because he wasn't conservative enough
Now at a 10% disadvantage going into the federal election and only raving about swarms of illegal immigrants can possibly save them from the same fate as the wipeout they suffered in Victoria few months ago

If you hate Australia, by all means vote for the LNP. They are social and environmental vandals. Their economic record can only be explained by either colossal incompetence or an active desire to concentrate wealth amongst a tiny proportion of the Australian population. Linking this back to AOC - you have to realise that there are growing sectors of the US and Aus populace that look at the records of conservative governments and justifiably call bullshit. They are rigging the game, and even with the help of conservative Murdoch loudspeaker media people are sick of their shit. Either way they don't give a fuck about you - so why are you going to bat for them?

P.S. Oh yeah - they also failed to deal with the fact that in 2021 when Australia overtakes Qatar as the largest natural gas exporter in the world - the Qataris will get almost $27 billion for their gas in royalties, Australians will get around $800 million. It's borderline treason to fail the country this badly.

A fundamental Laborite I see! You're no different to a Moron, or a JW, or even a Muslim fundamentalist! One cannot reason with them, the same as any other fundamentalist. You stick to your story, I'm sure your lord and masters Get Up and Backflip Bill will love you for it!

I don't actually vote Labor - but it's not surprising to see you resort to ad hominems rather than even attempt to debate the pathetic record of the current government or your demonstrated ignorance of the political spectrum. The irony of the matter is that Bill Shorten is an insipid, uninspiring, deeply unpopular opposition leader who couldn't charm a voter out of burning building. Yet he's going to be the next prime minister due to the brazen incompetence and blinkered outlook of the conservatives. A few terms in the wilderness and hopefully the far right of the coalition will splinter into it's own party and save the country from backslides like the last 6 years.

Australian Labor is not perfect, but that's a bar well higher than anything the conservatives can hope to aim for currently or in the near future.
 
I am so consistently right some think I'm a bot.

How hard core racists are formed is a shame. But some people get over abusive upbringings.
 
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez delivers impassioned response to critics: 'I'm the boss. How about that?' | The Independent
“You know what? I don’t care anymore, because at least I’m trying and they’re not,” she said.

“I just introduced the Green New Deal two weeks ago and it’s creating all of this conversation, why? Because no one else has even tried.”

...
Critics have claimed the Green New Deal resolution is too extreme and unworkable, with Donald Trump incorrectly suggesting it would “permanently eliminate all planes, cars, cows, oil, gas and the military”.

Ms Ocasio-Cortez added: “So people are like ‘Oh it’s unrealistic, oh it’s vague, oh it doesn’t address this little minute thing’ and I’m like ‘You try! You do it!’ Because you’re not, so until you do it, I’m the boss, How about that?
Good challenge. It's not enough to emit something like this:

1 Praise ye the Market, the Almighty, the King of creation!
O my soul, praise Him, for He is thy health and salvation!
All ye who hear,
Now to His temple draw near;
Join me in glad adoration!

2 Praise ye the Market, who o'er all things so wondrously reigneth,
Shelters thee under His wings, yea, so gently sustaineth!
Hast thou not seen
How thy desires e'er have been
Granted in what He ordaineth?

3 Praise ye the Market, who with marvelous wisdom hath made thee!
Decked thee with health, and with loving hand guided and stayed thee;
How oft in grief
Hath not He brought thee relief,
Spreading His wings for to shade thee!

4 Praise ye the Market! O let all that is in me adore Him!
All that hath life and breath, come now with praises before Him.
Let the Amen
Sound from His people again:
Gladly for aye we adore Him.

Amen.

From Favorite Hymns of Praise 14. Praise ye the Lord, the Almighty | Hymnary.org, with a tiny rewrite.
 
You actually read like caricature.

Australian Labor are to the right of most governments in the Northern European countries - all of which score better on most economic and quality of life indicators than Australia. (Still I like the beach so not going to live there). Australian Labor is not socialist. If you don't understand that then you literally don't understand politics.

If you can point to anything positive and concrete that the LNP have achieved in the last 6 years go ahead. The party that you label 'socialist' has a better economic record on pretty much every measure than the conservatives as well.

On the flip side - the conservatives have; rolled back a functioning carbon price - ostensibly to lower power bills - which has had the opposite effect and power bill shave gone up significantly. Straight up lied about not cutting funding to the public broadcaster and schooling, wasted billions on an a moronic 'direct action' climate plan while 30% of the great barrier reef was destroyed, fucked up the national broadband network, doubled the deficit during an up economic cycle, tried to undercut the federal revenue base by cutting corporate taxes and failed even though they held a majority in parliament, failed to even pretend to deal with the housing bubble in Sydney and Melbourne that holds at least half a trillion distressed debt and rising as the bubble bursts and prices begin sliding, oversaw record low real wage growth and up to 23% decrease in private capital investments and have refused to deal with tax avoidance from large private and public multinationals. Oh yes - they also did everything they could to prevent the royal commission into banking sector that revealed billions of dollars worth of criminal activity by the major banks - at the expense of the people of Australia. Also unleashed environmental risks like approving oil exploration in the great Australian Bight - fully 1/3 deeper than the deepwater horizon well.

In addition to all this:

Knifed one leader and manufactured a double dissolution election that saw them drop their parliamentary majority to 1 seat with the most popular LNP leader since Howard the rat
Knifed that popular leader after he clawed the rightward lurching LNP back to with in margin of error against Labor because he wasn't conservative enough
Now at a 10% disadvantage going into the federal election and only raving about swarms of illegal immigrants can possibly save them from the same fate as the wipeout they suffered in Victoria few months ago

If you hate Australia, by all means vote for the LNP. They are social and environmental vandals. Their economic record can only be explained by either colossal incompetence or an active desire to concentrate wealth amongst a tiny proportion of the Australian population. Linking this back to AOC - you have to realise that there are growing sectors of the US and Aus populace that look at the records of conservative governments and justifiably call bullshit. They are rigging the game, and even with the help of conservative Murdoch loudspeaker media people are sick of their shit. Either way they don't give a fuck about you - so why are you going to bat for them?

P.S. Oh yeah - they also failed to deal with the fact that in 2021 when Australia overtakes Qatar as the largest natural gas exporter in the world - the Qataris will get almost $27 billion for their gas in royalties, Australians will get around $800 million. It's borderline treason to fail the country this badly.

A fundamental Laborite I see! You're no different to a Moron, or a JW, or even a Muslim fundamentalist! One cannot reason with them, the same as any other fundamentalist. You stick to your story, I'm sure your lord and masters Get Up and Backflip Bill will love you for it!

I don't actually vote Labor - but it's not surprising to see you resort to ad hominems rather than even attempt to debate the pathetic record of the current government or your demonstrated ignorance of the political spectrum. The irony of the matter is that Bill Shorten is an insipid, uninspiring, deeply unpopular opposition leader who couldn't charm a voter out of burning building. Yet he's going to be the next prime minister due to the brazen incompetence and blinkered outlook of the conservatives. A few terms in the wilderness and hopefully the far right of the coalition will splinter into it's own party and save the country from backslides like the last 6 years.

Australian Labor is not perfect, but that's a bar well higher than anything the conservatives can hope to aim for currently or in the near future.

Here's a take on who are the best managers of the Australian economy, and from a left leaning source by the way!

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-liberal-who-best-runs-the-australian-economy
 
I am so consistently right some think I'm a bot.

How hard core racists are formed is a shame. But some people get over abusive upbringings.

Your ego is way out of kilter dude! Einstein's definition of insanity, of doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Surely if history was being taught based on evidence, the murderous 20th century examples of Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and many others would circumvent this delusion.
 
I am so consistently right some think I'm a bot.

How hard core racists are formed is a shame. But some people get over abusive upbringings.

Your ego is way out of kilter dude! Einstein's definition of insanity, of doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Surely if history was being taught based on evidence, the murderous 20th century examples of Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and many others would circumvent this delusion.

You forget the murderous US in Vietnam and Cambodia and Iraq.
 
I'm still waiting for Ocassio Cortez to truly nutter out, and for me, she hasn't yet. She's still a breath of fresh air to me. I enjoy her "real person" attitude of not being a creature grown in a Washington lab. Sure, sometimes that means she is clueless about some things, but that's fine, so long as she listens to experts before actually putting pen to legislation.
 
Kate Aronoff on Twitter: ".@AOC on Instagram live: "We had time when I was born, but - tick tock - nothing got done. As the youngest member of Congress, I wish we didn’t have 12 years. It’s our lungs that are going to get choked with wildfire smoke...Climate delayers are the new climate deniers. ""
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Climate delayers aren’t much better than climate deniers. With either one if they get their way, we’re toast.… "
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "I still live in my hood and literally instagrammed from my apartment tonight. A man was just arrested last week with a stockpile of guns specifically trying to kill me & others, so yeah I’m not gonna disclose my personal address or tell people when I move. Sorry!… https://t.co/WHpkryr7At"

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "The GOP is so disconnected from the basic idea that people should be paid enough to live that Fox actually thinks me paying a living wage in my office is “communism.” So the next time GOP screams “socialist,” know that’s their go-to attack for any common-sense, humane policy.… https://t.co/4nL1qaSvoT"
noting
Aaron Rupar on Twitter: ".@PeteHegseth on @AOC paying her staffers a living wage: "It’s actually socialism and communism on display.” (Poor Pete clearly has no idea what those terms mean.) https://t.co/8s9qd8vJke"

That's $52,000/year for her staffers and $15/hour for her interns.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@ocasio2018) • Instagram photos and videos

From Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Instagram: “I announced that no one who works for me full-time will make less than $52k and Fox News called it communism 🤣 . In my office, we do our…”
I announced that no one who works for me full-time will make less than $52k and Fox News called it communism 🤣
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In my office, we do our best to practice what we preach, and pay a living wage to all: $52k minimum for all full-time staff. To be honest, I wish our budgets allowed us to make it higher.
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It’s a very unusual move on the Hill and likely one of the highest entry-level salaries in Congress. I do it because I was outraged at how many staffers I saw on the Hill work FULL-TIME leave their day job for a second shift as a barista or elsewhere afterwards **just to afford the basics** - not even to get ahead or save up for something big. It’s totally wrong.
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Low pay is also a big reason for lack of socioeconomic diversity in DC, aka why many spaces in government can feel like a silver spoon club: only people who work 80+hr weeks w/ multiple jobs without an outside life, or whose parents can supplement their pay can have the opportunity to work in the nation’s capital. That has real consequences for government being out of touch w/ the people we serve on all levels. There’s a TON of work that needs to be done when it comes to the workplace (parental leave, hiring practices, living wage, healthcare as a right and not a perk, etc), but it starts with paying people enough to live as a minimum requirement, and not a luxury (and I guess that gets you called a communist these days 😂).

As to why I'm posting,
No, no es amor, lo que yo siento se llama obsesión.
(joke)

But more seriously, here is a Democratic politician who doesn't seem like she is perpetually apologizing to the Republicans, and one who has proposed some dramatic new policy initiatives.
 
I'm still waiting for Ocassio Cortez to truly nutter out, and for me, she hasn't yet. She's still a breath of fresh air to me. I enjoy her "real person" attitude of not being a creature grown in a Washington lab. Sure, sometimes that means she is clueless about some things, but that's fine, so long as she listens to experts before actually putting pen to legislation.

She's getting there;

Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said that it's 'legitimate' for young people to ask if it's okay to have children because of the threat of climate change. Ocasio-Cortez waxed on about the effects of climate change on young people as she made dinner in what appeared to be her apartment in an Instagram Live video over the weekend. 'There is scientific consensus that the lives of young children are going to be very difficult. And it does lead, I think, young people to have a legitimate question – you know, should, is it okay to still have children?,'

DailyMail
 
I'm still waiting for Ocassio Cortez to truly nutter out, and for me, she hasn't yet. She's still a breath of fresh air to me. I enjoy her "real person" attitude of not being a creature grown in a Washington lab. Sure, sometimes that means she is clueless about some things, but that's fine, so long as she listens to experts before actually putting pen to legislation.

She's getting there;

Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said that it's 'legitimate' for young people to ask if it's okay to have children because of the threat of climate change. Ocasio-Cortez waxed on about the effects of climate change on young people as she made dinner in what appeared to be her apartment in an Instagram Live video over the weekend. 'There is scientific consensus that the lives of young children are going to be very difficult. And it does lead, I think, young people to have a legitimate question – you know, should, is it okay to still have children?,'

So what? You really have a problem with children learning that they can make their own decisions about their futures? Maybe they should all remain in ignorance of ... well, of everything, including themselves, and just follow along with stunted, unexamined traditions about how their lives are supposed to go. I can see why anything else would seem threatening to your ilk.


Why do right wing dogmatists love tabloids so much?

(That's a rhetorical question. We already know the answer. ;) )
 
I am so consistently right some think I'm a bot.

How hard core racists are formed is a shame. But some people get over abusive upbringings.

Bots aren't right, bots are mindlessly repetitive whose responses are barely related to what they are responding to. Think of the bird-brain non-responsive e-mails you sometimes get from tech support. Many of those come from bots.
 
I'm still waiting for Ocassio Cortez to truly nutter out, and for me, she hasn't yet. She's still a breath of fresh air to me. I enjoy her "real person" attitude of not being a creature grown in a Washington lab. Sure, sometimes that means she is clueless about some things, but that's fine, so long as she listens to experts before actually putting pen to legislation.

She's getting there;

Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said that it's 'legitimate' for young people to ask if it's okay to have children because of the threat of climate change. Ocasio-Cortez waxed on about the effects of climate change on young people as she made dinner in what appeared to be her apartment in an Instagram Live video over the weekend. 'There is scientific consensus that the lives of young children are going to be very difficult. And it does lead, I think, young people to have a legitimate question – you know, should, is it okay to still have children?,'

DailyMail

Um, is this a bad thing? If she can convince lefties not to have children the future will be much better for everyone.
 
She's getting there;

So what? You really have a problem with children learning that they can make their own decisions about their futures? Maybe they should all remain in ignorance of ... well, of everything, including themselves, and just follow along with stunted, unexamined traditions about how their lives are supposed to go. I can see why anything else would seem threatening to your ilk.


Why do right wing dogmatists love tabloids so much?

(That's a rhetorical question. We already know the answer. ;) )

Daily Mail website branded unaccountable by fake news watchdog
(23 Jan 2019)
Microsoft's Edge browser is warning visitors to the Daily Mail's website to exercise caution as the website has decisively failed the test of accuracy and accountability and has damaged reputations, caused widespread alarm, and invaded people's privacy.

But this isn't a new thing:
Wikipedia bans Daily Mail as 'unreliable' source (8 Feb 2017)
Wikipedia editors have voted to ban the Daily Mail as a source for the website in all but exceptional circumstances after deeming the news group “generally unreliable”.

The move is highly unusual for the online encyclopaedia, which rarely puts in place a blanket ban on publications and which still allows links to sources such as Kremlin backed news organisation Russia Today, and Fox News, both of which have raised concern among editors.

The editors described the arguments for a ban as “centred on the Daily Mail’s reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism and flat-out fabrication”.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/
Overall, we rate Daily Mail Questionable due to numerous failed fact checks and poor sourcing of information.
 
Honestly, the fact that she is one of the only public figures questioning the morality of having offspring period, regardless of the reason, puts her far ahead of almost anyone in politics today.

Still, she is woefully undereducated on foreign policy, as her latest Instagram ramble about Venezuela shows.
 
This must be the longest thread about a freshman Congressperson in the history of web boards.
 
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