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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Arctish said:
Half-Life said:
If she's as smart as she thinks she is, imagine how much recognition she could get if she beat the great Shapiro in a debate.
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Zero.

She would get zero recognition.
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But she is so starved for recognition!! Like, she is only a congresswoman, and Fox News only says something about her every day. If she wants people to recognize her she needs to do the YouTube debate circuit.
 
marc said:
Arctish said:
Half-Life said:
If she's as smart as she thinks she is, imagine how much recognition she could get if she beat the great Shapiro in a debate.
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Zero.

She would get zero recognition.
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But she is so starved for recognition!! Like, she is only a congresswoman, and Fox News only says something about her every day. If she wants people to recognize her she needs to do the YouTube debate circuit.
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The only thing AOC and Sarah Palin have in common is that they became household names very quickly. Ocasio-Cortez seems to want to make something constructive out of this new found media fame, however.
 
Half-Life said:
Arctish said:
^That is the stupidest thing you've said today.

Of course, the day is young...
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No. It is the truth. Paying the minimum payment gets you NOWHERE. If that is your plan, it is best to just ignore it. If you have a lot of money, then pay off a huge portion of the balance. Otherwise, it's not worth it. Do you know how many debt accounts get sold off to debt collectors? Tons. The odds of getting sued are minimal. Even if you do get sued, you can settle for a lower payment because the debt collector bought your debt for pennies on the dollar. They can buy 10 grand worth of debt for 500 dollars for God's sakes! Then, they technically have no right to collect your money because you never gave them permission to buy your debt. Most of the time you ask them to prove that you owe the debt and they can't prove it because they don't have the statements. So, you're off the hook and they move onto the next sucker who doesn't know to ask for proof.

Do you guys not know how this works?
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I know how it works in my state, and debt collectors can legally garnish your wages and/or bank accounts and attach liens to your property.

Whether or not paying off the minimum makes sense depends on the terms of the loan. For example, when I was paying off my student debt, there was no advantage in paying it off early - the total amount you paid was identical. On the otherhand, it did make sense to pay off my mortgage early, since it reduced the overall payments.
 
laughing dog said:
Half-Life said:
Arctish said:
^That is the stupidest thing you've said today.

Of course, the day is young...
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No. It is the truth. Paying the minimum payment gets you NOWHERE. If that is your plan, it is best to just ignore it. If you have a lot of money, then pay off a huge portion of the balance. Otherwise, it's not worth it. Do you know how many debt accounts get sold off to debt collectors? Tons. The odds of getting sued are minimal. Even if you do get sued, you can settle for a lower payment because the debt collector bought your debt for pennies on the dollar. They can buy 10 grand worth of debt for 500 dollars for God's sakes! Then, they technically have no right to collect your money because you never gave them permission to buy your debt. Most of the time you ask them to prove that you owe the debt and they can't prove it because they don't have the statements. So, you're off the hook and they move onto the next sucker who doesn't know to ask for proof.

Do you guys not know how this works?
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I know how it works in my state, and debt collectors can legally garnish your wages and/or bank accounts and attach liens to your property.

Whether or not paying off the minimum makes sense depends on the terms of the loan. For example, when I was paying off my student debt, there was no advantage in paying it off early - the total amount you paid was identical. On the otherhand, it did make sense to pay off my mortgage early, since it reduced the overall payments.
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Not to mention many of those people had to get co-signers, usually parents or grandparents, to help them get their loans. Stop payment and the lender goes after the parents or grandparents. And why aren't student loans eligible for bankruptcy?
 
(4) Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "This administration needs to put down its saber and pick up a phone. Diplomacy is what grants us peace and stability - not war. #NoWarOnIran https://t.co/NZtifF3eki" / Twitter noting (4) NowThis on Twitter: ".@AOC minced no words in her comments on Iran and the Trump administration https://t.co/WH6UBeFyF1" / Twitter
AOC to a reporter: "I think they are trying to goad us into a military conflict that's completely irresponsible. Thank you."

History of Student Loans: Bankruptcy Discharge
Until 1976, student loan debt could, like most forms of financial obligation, be discharged in bankruptcy proceedings. At that point, student loan programs were not yet two decades old and student loan debt had not yet reached the stratospheric proportions that defined it in the 21st century.

That year, largely baseless claims that student debtors were abusing the bankruptcy system led to the first restrictions on bankruptcy discharge of student loan debt. These restrictions were tightened even further in the ensuing decades. Little progress has been made in reversing them despite concern that they have unfairly biased the system against indebted college graduates.
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KeepTalking said:
When W abolished the INS, was that so "illegals" could more easily enter the US than they did before?
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That was a reorganization (due to the new DHS), not abolishing. You know that quite well.
That said, W was way too pro-illegal. Not as bad as his brother, who views illegal immigration as an act of love. You have Republicans like that, and you get Trump.
 
lpetrich said:
angelo said:
Trump is running theses concentration camps? While no mention is made of the very same policies under the Obama Administration.



https://worldisraelnews.com/ocasio-...take’+Downing+US+Drone;+Nikki+Haley+Replaceme

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-barack-obama-fort-sill-former-japanese-internment-camp-1443785
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Which implies that the Right's hate-on for Obama was just plain wrong.
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Why does it imply that...? Wouldn't imply the opposite, that the American left's adulation of him was wrong?
 
lpetrich said:
More of TNC's statement. He made a flub about Civil-War soldiers living into "this century" when he meant the 20th cy.
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Which started almost 120 years ago. The civil war and slavery ended over 150 years ago. TNC is nothing but a black racist who wants to capitalize on his racism.

Also, the US had a brief period after the Civil War when black people were headed to full status: Reconstruction. But there was a backlash against it called Redemption, and the Federal Government did nothing to stop it, thus losing the peace for a century. Redemption included segregation, restrictive laws, and looking the other way at vigilante terrorism.
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And why should that mean that I need to pay money to TNC?
40 acres and a mule made some sense because the land would have come from former slave-owners and the recipients would have been recent victims. Trying to do "reparations" 160 years later, where both perpetrators and victims are long dead, is just an exercise in race hustling. It will also not play well in 2020, particularly in states that Democrats lost in 2016.

AOC continues to stand her ground on "concentration camp" comparisons.
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She can stand by them, but they are still idiotic.
 
lpetrich said:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Explains Socialism During Instagram Live Stream: 'It Does Not Mean Government Owns Everything'
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Not all forms of socialism have government directly owning everything. However, her categorical statement is still wrong, as some forms of socialism do.

AOC said:
"You can have free market economies with democratic socialist businesses. What on earth is a democratic socialist business? A perfect example of that is worker cooperatives...which means that...workers own the shares of the company," Ocasio-Cortez said.
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Government-enforced worker-ownership and control of businesses is called  Workers' self-management. It has been tried before, for example Titoist Yugoslavia. It's not some new AOC idea.

That would be a good idea. But it is a great failure of US labor unions that they have not tried very hard to achieve this goal.
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You could start a worker co-op today. The socialist part is when it is government enforced for all or most businesses.
 
ZiprHead said:
Another example of Derec pulling the ladder up behind him.
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I never said I want to end immigration altogether. But it needs to be legal and based on reasonable standards. Not the chaos of 100,000s of people flooding the border every month.
 
ZiprHead said:
Just to note here that the only way to apply for asylum is to do so after crossing the border. It cannot be done in their home country or anywhere else. I think that would be a good case for changing the rules.
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As far as I know, you can do it at a consulate. But that would defeat the purpose of getting into US, giving birth to anchor babies and avoiding deportation once their bogus asylum request is denied.
 
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