laughing dog
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What are you so frightened that you and your ilk will defend anything a police officer does?
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The video starts in the middle.
Crazy Eddie
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The middle of WHAT? The middle of a grown man being "attacked" by a twelve-year-old girl?
How, by the way, does one even find the courage to say that in public when recounting the tale later? "I bodyslammed a twelve year old girl... she started it."
laughing dog
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You have no idea whether it starts in the middle or near the beginning or somewhere else. And it does not matter. The video clearly shows the police officer is restraining the girl, and the girl is not armed. Even if the girl had kicked him or clubbed him or pulled a gun and got disarmed, at the time of the video (the relevant time), there is no indication he was under attack or in any danger.
And, if the subsequent report is true, he does not even claim he was in danger.
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Is there a critical point where, after having this same argument over and over in different threads over months or years, where it will come eventually to have any effect at all? Does it go somewhere?
When the video starts in the middle you never know what came before.
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When the video starts in the middle you can basically make up what came before.
It is pretty easy, in fact. I can assert that this middle school kid was not just unruly, but was an Islamic suicide bomber with a vest full of explosives, and the brave school cop saved the entire school from being blown up by a terrorist.
laughing dog
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You keep repeating that as if it is meaningful - which it is not.
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Wow. Just...wow.
Derec
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You have a very low amazement threshold.
Derec
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Nope. I already acknowledged that there is a possibility his use of force was not correct.
However, the family is claiming the girl did nothing wrong, that she was only talking (very unbelievable) and also that she was unconscious and still has headaches (highly suspect, especially given the family's other claims).
What do you think about these claims made by the family? Also, what dollar amount do you think they will demand from the district?
Crazy Eddie
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Are you under the impression that before the video started the student in question was NOT a twelve year old girl? Was she a five foot eleven linebacker who tried to tackle the cop, only shape-shifting into a smaller form to avoid being restrained?
I ask because if the circumstances aren't VERY unusual, whatever happened before the video started happened between a grown male police officer...
and a TWELVE YEAR OLD GIRL.
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Actually, I don't.
Despite all past experience reading your posts, I find that I would like to believe that little girls, women and black people of any age do not terrify you to the extent that you accept and even applaud grown men throwing them around, smashing them into the ground and shooting them point blank.
But I guess that is just not true. As long as it is some man who is slamming some other person or with a weapon in his hand, or shooting someone, it's all good with you.
laughing dog
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Yet, you think he should just get a reprimand. You are not fooling anyone.
So what? That has nothing whatsoever to do with what the police officer did. Nothing. Nothing. Yet now you are whining that this family might try to get damages.
I don't think about them. If I did, they are certainly plausible, but ultimately there is no way to know whether or not they are true.
Don't know and don't care. I think it is very telling that you are more worried about a possible damage award than the actual well-being of the victim and, the effects on the children who witnessed this brutal handling of a child, and the implications of how children in those schools are treated by these special police.
You are really are not fooling anyone.
Playball40
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Her "side" of the story? I don't care if she called the cop a fucking asshole dipshit - it doesn't give him the right to body slam her. She is 12 years old for Christ's sake. He was already restraining her.
Playball40
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That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. So I guess if I get bit by a toddler, I'm justified in slamming him to the ground.
ronburgundy
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Actually, she does look closer to 5' 11" than an average 12 year old. She is almost as tall as the cop. But perhaps the cop himself is just very below average in size for an adult male. Either way, her age is a red herring. Yes, facts can be red herrings when they are irrelevant to the issue. She was almost his size, he had no control over her yet, and she was dragging him forward as he tried to hold onto her.
What the cop did showed incompetence in strength, restraining skill, or both. However, that would equally be the case if she was 18 years old.
Not lay a finger on or full on body slam . . . maybe those aren't the only two choices?