Another victim of progressive judges, Chicago

[TSwizzle]

The woman set alight by a lunatic on a Chicago metro train has a 'long road ahead of her' after suffering burns to 60 percent of her body, her family said. Bethany MaGee, 26, was doused in gasoline and set alight on the city's Blue Line on November 17, but managed to flee the train and survive. The man police named as her attacker, 50-year-old Lawrence Reed, is a serial criminal with 72 prior arrests freed months earlier by a judge after he allegedly attacked a social worker. [.quote]

Daily Mail

Perhaps it is time to send in the National Guard

 

[ZiprHead]

Perhaps it is time to send in the National Guard

Can you explain how the NG could have stopped this?

 

[Politesse]

Perhaps it is time to send in the National Guard

Can you explain how the NG could have stopped this?

Or anything, for that matter?

 

[thebeave]

Perhaps it is time to send in the National Guard

Can you explain how the NG could have stopped this?

Or anything, for that matter?

How about this?

 

[laughing dog]

I cannot find any reference to the judge’s rational for her decision. Does anyone have one?

 

[Elixir]

Perhaps it is time to send in the National Guard

Can you explain how the NG could have stopped this?

Or anything, for that matter?

Insufferable pricks perhaps.

 

[Derec]

I am with Zipr on this. Chicago Police did their job, they arrested this piece of shit 72 times. The problem is the woke prosecutors and judges that keep releasing criminals like him.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

If he is really a lunatic like the paper states, then he probably ought to have been in a mental institution with proper medication and treatment for the last 20 years rather than roaming the streets assaulting people and throwing fire at them and buildings.

 

[Politesse]

Perhaps it is time to send in the National Guard

Can you explain how the NG could have stopped this?

Or anything, for that matter?

How about this?

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Jail cells aren't therapy, or this man would be the picture of health by now.

 

[TSwizzle]

Jail cells aren't therapy, or this man would be the picture of health by now.

Alternatively, Ms MaGee wouldn’t be in hospital with severe burns.

 

[Politesse]

Jail cells aren't therapy, or this man would be the picture of health by now.

Alternatively, Ms MaGee wouldn’t be in hospital with severe burns.

You never think beyond the next year. Bouncing this guy in and out of jail for forty years has not improved his mood. But you think one more brief prison stay will cure him?

 

[bilby]

Imprisonment via a criminal justice system seems to be just about the least effective way to treat mentally ill people, if your goal is to protect society from mentally ill people.

Even doing nothing at all would probably have better results.

Of course, if your goal is to be seen as tough on people who do bad things, without regard for what impact that has on society at large, then convicting mentally ill people in criminal courts and sending them to jail is a great plan.

Never mind that a properly designed and funded secure psychiatric program would be far more effective in protecting society, not least because incarceration would be indefinite and dependent on the mental state of the offender, rather than arbitrarily fixed at the term deemed reasonable for criminal punishment.

Why the US has a "justice" system designed by simpletons, when criminologists and psychiatrists have known for decades what works, and such a system is known to be less expensive as well as more protective of society at large, is utterly mystifying, but it's probably based in religion.

It doesn't matter who gets hurt; The victims of crime are worthy of thought only for the purpose of evoking an emotional response in favour of massively oversimplified policies that are demonstrably completely ineffective.

The US already incarcerates a ridiculous proportion of her citizens, and yet still the simpletons clamour for more and longer jail terms, as though that were the only possible response to, or even an effective and sensible response to, the continued existence of violent mentally ill people.

 

[Politesse]

Imprisonment via a criminal justice system seems to be just about the least effective way to treat mentally ill people, if your goal is to protect society from mentally ill people.

Even doing nothing at all would probably have better results.

Of course, if your goal is to be seen as tough on people who do bad things, without regard for what impact that has on society at large, then convicting mentally ill people in criminal courts and sending them to jail is a great plan.

Never mind that a properly designed and funded secure psychiatric program would be far more effective in protecting society, not least because incarceration would be indefinite and dependent on the mental state of the offender, rather than arbitrarily fixed at the term deemed reasonable for criminal punishment.

Why the US has a "justice" system designed by simpletons, when criminologists and psychiatrists have known for decades what works, and such a system is known to be less expensive as well as more protective of society at large, is utterly mystifying, but it's probably based in religion.

It doesn't matter who gets hurt; The victims of crime are worthy of thought only for the purpose of evoking an emotional response in favour of massively oversimplified policies that are demonstrably completely ineffective.

The US already incarcerates a ridiculous proportion of her citizens, and yet still the simpletons clamour for more and longer jail terms, as though that were the only possible response to, or even an effective and sensible response to, the continued existence of violent mentally ill people.

Funny how when they get nabbed for a minor crime, the conservative conviction that all crimes merit life in prison suddenly dissolves.

 

[Politesse]

I do think we should be asking some serious questions about these ankle bracelets and what happens when one pings. If they are supposed to be the prison, in effect, then a spatial violation of terms ought to garner a response akin to a prisoner being out of cell in an unknown location. That's safety, not oppression.

 

[TSwizzle]

Jail cells aren't therapy, or this man would be the picture of health by now.

Alternatively, Ms MaGee wouldn’t be in hospital with severe burns.

You never think beyond the next year. Bouncing this guy in and out of jail for forty years has not improved his mood. But you think one more brief prison stay will cure him?

Where did I say that?

 

[Politesse]

Jail cells aren't therapy, or this man would be the picture of health by now.

Alternatively, Ms MaGee wouldn’t be in hospital with severe burns.

You never think beyond the next year. Bouncing this guy in and out of jail for forty years has not improved his mood. But you think one more brief prison stay will cure him?

Where did I say that?

I suppose you didn't. So you do not, in fact, believe the incident (or another like it whenever he was teleased agsin) could have been prevented?

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Jail cells aren't therapy, or this man would be the picture of health by now.

Alternatively, Ms MaGee wouldn’t be in hospital with severe burns.

You never think beyond the next year. Bouncing this guy in and out of jail for forty years has not improved his mood. But you think one more brief prison stay will cure him?

Where did I say that?

I suppose you didn't. So you do not, in fact, believe the incident (or another like it whenever he was teleased agsin) could have been prevented?

No, he is advocating for a military dictatorship which if you do it very, very tightly probably does prevent some civilian crimes.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Wasn’t the national guard already deployed to Chicago?

Maybe just need to follow the Fox Morning show host advice and use forced euthanasia to take care of problems like these.

 

[Derec]

Jail cells aren't therapy, or this man would be the picture of health by now.

Why? It's not like he spent all that much time inside, despite all his arrests and convictions.

Records show that Reed had previously been arrested 72 times in Cook County alone and convicted in 15 of those cases, the feds said in court papers.

One of those busts included an aggravated arson charge, in which he was accused of dousing the city’s Thompson Center government building with liquid and setting it on fire just as Gov. J.B. Pritzker was due to speak at a press conference, cops said.

But the maniac never served any time and was only given probation despite being convicted of the arson incident in April 2020, court documents show.

At the time of this week’s fiery horror, Reed was out on electronic home monitoring stemming from an alleged incident where he knocked a hospital social worker unconscious in August.

Violent firebug who set woman ablaze on Chicago train has a long rap sheet, had ‘no business being on the streets’

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Jail cells aren't therapy, or this man would be the picture of health by now.

Why? It's not like he spent all that much time inside, despite all his arrests and convictions.

Records show that Reed had previously been arrested 72 times in Cook County alone and convicted in 15 of those cases, the feds said in court papers.

One of those busts included an aggravated arson charge, in which he was accused of dousing the city’s Thompson Center government building with liquid and setting it on fire just as Gov. J.B. Pritzker was due to speak at a press conference, cops said.

But the maniac never served any time and was only given probation despite being convicted of the arson incident in April 2020, court documents show.

At the time of this week’s fiery horror, Reed was out on electronic home monitoring stemming from an alleged incident where he knocked a hospital social worker unconscious in August.

Violent firebug who set woman ablaze on Chicago train has a long rap sheet, had ‘no business being on the streets’

Was the "maniac" (article's wording) dealing with a hospital social worker because he was mentally ill? Was he put into some kind of outpatient and probation monitoring program due to lack of funding for him to be in a mental institution?