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Are we now in full blown fascist totalitarianism?

Rachel Maddow's show is essential watching tonight. Eastern European countries are blowing up with anti Putin and anti Trump protests. Serbia and Georgia particularly.
 
More about the LGBTQ Venezuelan who was disappeared to the gulag and whose attorney argues was not a gang member, criminal, nor here illegally (he was going through the legal process to claim asylum). Imagine escaping a bad situation to claim asylum only to be sent to the gulag for doing literally nothing wrong. Absolutely horrifying:



Fuck all you stupid fucking assholes who said it was Trump Derangement Syndrome to call him a fascist with Nazi ideology. I think you mother fuckers actually enjoy that he is a Hitler type.

They absolutely do.

People tend to forget that before the Nazis took power it was both fairly transparent what they wanted with their rhetoric, and that there was a fraction of the populace that lapped it up and was full hog even after the war.

People forget what these groups actually look like "before the war".

Sure, after their mask is off it's really hard to take the swastika off, but beforehand, they tend to resemble anyone who panics over "think of the children/women/elderly" while not actually helping them.

This current Republican party has done all of the above, from saving women's sports from 10 people at the expense of millions of taxpayer dollars and genital inspections all the way to screaming about death panels when they silence any discussion of Luigi and the fact that a CEO was assassinated over *checks notes* death panels, to such concern for kids that they will force them into bodies they don't want or force them into existence just to abandon them.

They burn books, just like the GOP is burning books. The books they burned were initially about gender.

Look at what happened, look at who repeats it and how they repeat it, and you will find the soil in which "Nazi" power grows.

Look at who freely tolerates the Nazi under their tent.

Look at who doesn't admit clear Nazi gestures are Nazi, and look who supports their views and whose views they support.

This is why they criticized "virtue signaling": it is the way we detect them before they can get into power. Because people without tend to have issues genuinely expressing they have it, because they don't understand it.

Don't argue with these people. Tell them instead to fuck off with that Nazi shit.
 
President who took extra-legal actions against people that verifiably were targeting the United States as a last step.
Not verifiably.
Yes, verifiably. You think there is a roulette wheel of US ExPats Obama spun and those names popped up?
Not verifiably
The fact is, Due process does not apply outside of US.
Doesn't apply to non-Americans outside of the US, though there generally are rules, but stuff like drone strikes and what not which are more or less on the black side of gray.
That dude Obama executed without due process was an american citizen. But it is nice to know that POTUS can assassinate anybody as long as they are not US citizens and are outside of US.
Hence CIA prisons, Guantanamo and shit like assassinations by presidents from both parties.
Generally that exclusively involves non-citizens. You are trying to compare two completely different things.
Must be be nice to be a citizen and in US :D
 
President who took extra-legal actions against people that verifiably were targeting the United States as a last step.
Not verifiably. The fact is, Due process does not apply outside of US. Hence CIA prisons, Guantanamo and shit like assassinations by presidents from both parties.
The funny thing here is that barbos is using part US fuck ups to apparently justify this one.
I am not justifying anything. I am simply amused by this selective outrage.
People are being denied entrance to US without due process every day.
It's amusing that once one get (legally or illegaly) in, one suddenly gets due process on the subject of the deportation.
That's amusing. That's all.


By the way, who was the POTUS when "iraqi" man who had never been to Iraq and did not speak arabic was deported to Iraq and then later died because he was diabetic? I honestly don't remember.
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Yeah, this guy, he got hos due process, it looks like it was Trump.

 
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Scary shit: barbos' statements about different laws applying inside and outside US territory actually just became relevant to this case. So the judge ordered any planes be turned around that were sent out using the AEA as the authority. There were two flights mid-air when this statement was made. The government did not turn them around and continued to the gulag.

The legal argument they are claiming? The judge's order only applies to actions taken using AEA authority. They are claiming a new legal authority under Article II of the constitution once the planes left US territory. The order came out as the planes were outside US territory. This may actually be valid as barbos points out: different rules inside vs outside (the judge is still considering it).

The kicker, however, is that there was a third flight that took off from the US after the judge's order. When the judge asked what authority was used to deport those occupants, the DOJ said they couldn't answer due to national security reasons. The judge ordered them to provide them what those reasons are specifically by noon tomorrow with a sworn decloration. Stay tuned.
 
barbos' statements about different laws applying inside and outside US territory actually just became relevant to this case
Damn, you are slow. It happened yesterday and I posted after (!!!) reading about it.
Incorrect. The legal hearing where the DOJ brought up this particular argument concluded about 8 hours ago (I listened to it live). And many are saying it may not hold up.
 
American Pie Canadian actress describes her inhumane ordeal in ICE detention after trying to enter the US:

Mooney, whose credits include American Pie Presents: The Book of Love as well as Kid Cannabis and episodes of Loudermilk and iZombie, tried on March 3 to cross at the U.S.-Mexico border, she said, in hopes of renewing her work visa. Mooney says she crossed at San Diego because that’s where her lawyer is. Instead of being granted entry — or sent back to Mexico — she was detained. That began an odyssey she said felt like a “deeply disturbing psychological experiment.”

The actress told San Diego outlet KGTV that, in the privately-owned Otay Mesa Border Crossing Detention Center, she was “I was put in a cell, and I had to sleep on a mat with no blanket, no pillow, with an aluminum foil wrapped over my body like a dead body for two and a half days,” she said. Mooney said she was also forced to sleep on a concrete floor. In the middle of the night, the actress said she was transferred to an Arizona facility “wrapped in chains.”

Mooney is the co-founder of the Holy! Water brand, which reportedly contains Delta-9 “full spectrum hemp.” There was some speculation in the media that that connection may have raised a red flag with I.C.E., but neither the actress nor reporters have been given any official reason for her detention.

“No one told me anything. Not once,” Mooney said on landing safely back at Vancouver International Airport this week.

“I still don’t even know how I’m home,” she added. “My friends and my family and the media are the reason, I think, that I’m home.


How much you want to bet Stephen Miller got video of this and gets hard watching it?

How much longer until DOGE comes in and figures out the gas chambers will save a bunch of money compared to deportations? Trump will appreciate the Final Solution to his immigration problem, as they always seem to come back multiple times otherwise.
 
barbos' statements about different laws applying inside and outside US territory actually just became relevant to this case
Damn, you are slow. It happened yesterday and I posted after (!!!) reading about it.
Incorrect. The legal hearing where the DOJ brought up this particular argument concluded about 8 hours ago (I listened to it live). And many are saying it may not hold up.
I think I know better what and when I did than you.
I read the news and posted a post mentioning Awlaki
 
ICE admits that most sent to the gulag do not have a criminal record and also they lack specific information on many of these individuals. And, I quote, "The lack of specific information about these individuals highlights the risk they pose.", and demonstrates that they are in fact terrorists!

 
Flood of stories coming out that seems to indicate most of these men were completely innocent of any crime (not even accused of a crime) and were not here illegally while they were waiting for their asylum claim to process, and the supposed ties to TdA are baseless because they had tattoos.


This seems to be a clear case of kidnapping and human trafficking. Why don't fucking blue states grow a spine and issue arrest warrants for everyone involved in these crimes against humanity? Where the fuck are you Newsom, you spineless coward? It's time to make some creative legal justification for this, if needed. Trump and his merry band of Nazis have no problem doing that. The time to fight back is NOW.
 
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So where are the morons who were claiming we have TDS? I'm sure they'll come up with some moronic reason why this is still TDS.
 
Flood of stories coming out that seems to indicate most of these men were completely innocent of any crime (not even accused of a crime) and were not here illegally while they were waiting for their asylum claim to process, and the supposed ties to TdA are baseless because they had tattoos.


This seems to be a clear case of kidnapping and human trafficking. Why don't fucking blue states grow a spine and issue arrest warrants for everyone involved in these crimes against humanity? Where the fuck are you Newsom, you spineless coward? It's time to make some creative legal justification for this, if needed. Trump and his merry band of Nazis have no problem doing that. The time to fight back is NOW.
Trump has immunity. You can't investigate it. Only Congress can act via impeachment.

The people don't care overall. They aren't citizens or these people are dog eating mongrels.
 
Flood of stories coming out that seems to indicate most of these men were completely innocent of any crime (not even accused of a crime) and were not here illegally while they were waiting for their asylum claim to process, and the supposed ties to TdA are baseless because they had tattoos.


This seems to be a clear case of kidnapping and human trafficking. Why don't fucking blue states grow a spine and issue arrest warrants for everyone involved in these crimes against humanity? Where the fuck are you Newsom, you spineless coward? It's time to make some creative legal justification for this, if needed. Trump and his merry band of Nazis have no problem doing that. The time to fight back is NOW.
Trump has immunity. You can't investigate it. Only Congress can act via impeachment.

The people don't care overall. They aren't citizens or these people are dog eating mongrels.
I get that Trump has immunity but all the others involved, Tom Homan, Stephen Miller, Marco Rubio, head of ICE, etc should all have warrants issued for their arrest in blue states.

Even if the supreme court eventually intervenes and shuts it down, the point is to start showing some fight and actual resistence. And if/when it does shut it down the governers need to talk about how the justices are political hacks who need to be impeached.

Get the best legal minds on it ASAP. We have very serious crimes here: violation of 5th amendment, kidnapping, human trafficking, sent to a gulag where they will face abuse and torture and possible death, crimes against humanity, etc.
 
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The people don't care overall.
Of course they don't. Why would they?

It's only the Socialists, Trade Unionists and Jews Venezuelans, Haitians, and Muslims they are coming for, not me. And those guys probably all deserve it anyway.

Niemöller never said anything about coming for Venezuelans, so I expect that that's not a prelude to anything bad.

Right?
 
The people don't care overall.
Of course they don't. Why would they?

It's only the Socialists, Trade Unionists and Jews Venezuelans, Haitians, and Muslims they are coming for, not me. And those guys probably all deserve it anyway.

Niemöller never said anything about coming for Venezuelans, so I expect that that's not a prelude to anything bad.

Right?

And you know, the people who are screaming "TDS" are probably the people who would be most compliant in helping the fascists.
 
Flood of stories coming out that seems to indicate most of these men were completely innocent of any crime (not even accused of a crime) and were not here illegally while they were waiting for their asylum claim to process, and the supposed ties to TdA are baseless because they had tattoos.


This seems to be a clear case of kidnapping and human trafficking. Why don't fucking blue states grow a spine and issue arrest warrants for everyone involved in these crimes against humanity? Where the fuck are you Newsom, you spineless coward? It's time to make some creative legal justification for this, if needed. Trump and his merry band of Nazis have no problem doing that. The time to fight back is NOW.
Trump has immunity. You can't investigate it. Only Congress can act via impeachment.

The people don't care overall. They aren't citizens or these people are dog eating mongrels.
I get that Trump has immunity but all the others involved, Tom Homan, Stephen Miller, Marco Rubio, head of ICE, etc should all have warrants issued for their arrest in blue states.
Except, they'll just refer up the chain. This is Congress territory.
Even if the supreme court eventually intervenes and shuts it down, the point is to start showing some fight and actual resistence.
There is nothing to shut down. You need standing to have a case. The people who have standing are in a super max prison in another country.
And if/when it does shut it down the governers need to talk about how the justices are political hacks who need to be impeached.
This entire Administration needs to go at this point, but the GOP have decided they like the idea of a dictatorship. They are just as complicit with this.
Get the best legal minds on it ASAP. We have very serious crimes here: violation of 5th amendment, kidnapping, human trafficking, sent to a gulag where they will face abuse and torture and possible death, crimes against humanity, etc.
You don't get it. We've lost. The only question that remains is when political "enemies" of Trump start disappearing, as SoS Rubio suggested they might, in a roundabout way.
 
Flood of stories coming out that seems to indicate most of these men were completely innocent of any crime (not even accused of a crime) and were not here illegally while they were waiting for their asylum claim to process, and the supposed ties to TdA are baseless because they had tattoos.


This seems to be a clear case of kidnapping and human trafficking. Why don't fucking blue states grow a spine and issue arrest warrants for everyone involved in these crimes against humanity? Where the fuck are you Newsom, you spineless coward? It's time to make some creative legal justification for this, if needed. Trump and his merry band of Nazis have no problem doing that. The time to fight back is NOW.
Trump has immunity. You can't investigate it. Only Congress can act via impeachment.

The people don't care overall. They aren't citizens or these people are dog eating mongrels.
I get that Trump has immunity but all the others involved, Tom Homan, Stephen Miller, Marco Rubio, head of ICE, etc should all have warrants issued for their arrest in blue states.
Except, they'll just refer up the chain. This is Congress territory.
Even if the supreme court eventually intervenes and shuts it down, the point is to start showing some fight and actual resistence.
There is nothing to shut down. You need standing to have a case. The people who have standing are in a super max prison in another country.
And if/when it does shut it down the governers need to talk about how the justices are political hacks who need to be impeached.
This entire Administration needs to go at this point, but the GOP have decided they like the idea of a dictatorship. They are just as complicit with this.
Get the best legal minds on it ASAP. We have very serious crimes here: violation of 5th amendment, kidnapping, human trafficking, sent to a gulag where they will face abuse and torture and possible death, crimes against humanity, etc.
You don't get it. We've lost. The only question that remains is when political "enemies" of Trump start disappearing, as SoS Rubio suggested they might, in a roundabout way.
If any of these crimes took place in any of the blue states, such as the initial detention and/or movement through them, then the state has standing for the crimes that were committed within their territory. Standing is the least of the problems. The hard part will be overcoming government official immunity arguments but that is where the legal minds need to get creative: immunity doesn't apply for willful violation of basic human rights guaranteed by the constitution, for example.
 
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The only question that remains is when political "enemies" of Trump start disappearing, as SoS Rubio suggested they might, in a roundabout way.
The thing to pay attention to is how roundabout the references become. The natural evolution would be for them to become increasingly overt and direct. Then names of the relatively unknown “disappeared” will start appearing, then the more well known ones.
If second amendment “solutions” have not taken hold at that point, we are living in Russia.
 
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