Attorney General Jeff Sessions: Nazis didn't deport Jews

[Underseer]

https://www.dw.com/en/us-attorney-general-jeff-sessions-claims-nazis-did-not-deport-jews/a-44296111

Thrice in two days has the administration of US President Donald Trump made misleading claims about Germany . Just a few hours after the president claimed that Germans were scared of immigrants and falsely stated that the crime rate in Germany had risen, Attorney General Jeff Sessions told an interviewer that the camps for migrant children at the US-Mexico border should not be compared to Nazi concentration camps because the Nazis "were keeping the Jews from leaving the country."

Sorry that this is a month old, but this administration produces so many outrages per day, that a lot of them fall through the cracks.

What the actual fuck?

WW2 was only the most important thing to happen in the 20^th century, and Sessions lived the majority of his life in the 20^thcentury. Given his age, he probably watched a lot of WW2 movies in his youth. He has no excuse for getting this wrong. The Nazi holocaust started out as a mass deportation until some bureaucrat figured out that it would be cheaper to deport all the Jews.

Lately, much print has been written about that famous boat full of Jewish refugees that America turned away, resulting in most of those refugees returning to Nazi-controlled lands, resulting in their deaths. If the Nazis were preventing the Jews from leaving, how did an entire boat full of civilians make it all the way to the east coast of America? What, did that civilian passenger ship use its superior firepower to fight its way out of a German port?

 

[Toni]

https://www.dw.com/en/us-attorney-general-jeff-sessions-claims-nazis-did-not-deport-jews/a-44296111

Thrice in two days has the administration of US President Donald Trump made misleading claims about Germany . Just a few hours after the president claimed that Germans were scared of immigrants and falsely stated that the crime rate in Germany had risen, Attorney General Jeff Sessions told an interviewer that the camps for migrant children at the US-Mexico border should not be compared to Nazi concentration camps because the Nazis "were keeping the Jews from leaving the country."

Sorry that this is a month old, but this administration produces so many outrages per day, that a lot of them fall through the cracks.

What the actual fuck?

WW2 was only the most important thing to happen in the 20^th century, and Sessions lived the majority of his life in the 20^thcentury. Given his age, he probably watched a lot of WW2 movies in his youth. He has no excuse for getting this wrong. The Nazi holocaust started out as a mass deportation until some bureaucrat figured out that it would be cheaper to deport all the Jews.

Lately, much print has been written about that famous boat full of Jewish refugees that America turned away, resulting in most of those refugees returning to Nazi-controlled lands, resulting in their deaths. If the Nazis were preventing the Jews from leaving, how did an entire boat full of civilians make it all the way to the east coast of America? What, did that civilian passenger ship use its superior firepower to fight its way out of a German port?

To be fair, Germans did not want the Jews to escape; they wanted to keep them where they could work them to death, use them as test subjects in 'scientific' experiments and then gas the ones that either weren't fit for work or experimentation or who survived the work, experimentation and general starvation and disease which was rampant in the concentration camps. We know this for many reasons, one of which is that the Nazis were excellent record keepers.

So, Sessions is almost, kind of right???

 

[bilby]

The Nazis certainly wanted the Jews out of Germany, but they didn't really want to send them to anywhere that was far enough away that it would cost a lot of money or effort to get rid of them; Or that was close enough that they would just end up invading their new home, and having to deport them again as the German Empire expanded.

It didn't help that no other nation really wanted them.

In the end, it was easier just to try to kill them all - and that had the side benefit that you could extract useful labour and their personal belongings from them before killing them.

 

[fromderinside]

Would someone help with Move, or Invade, and kill jews in place as being different from keeping them out of Germania?

 

[Underseer]

https://www.dw.com/en/us-attorney-general-jeff-sessions-claims-nazis-did-not-deport-jews/a-44296111

Thrice in two days has the administration of US President Donald Trump made misleading claims about Germany . Just a few hours after the president claimed that Germans were scared of immigrants and falsely stated that the crime rate in Germany had risen, Attorney General Jeff Sessions told an interviewer that the camps for migrant children at the US-Mexico border should not be compared to Nazi concentration camps because the Nazis "were keeping the Jews from leaving the country."

Sorry that this is a month old, but this administration produces so many outrages per day, that a lot of them fall through the cracks.

What the actual fuck?

WW2 was only the most important thing to happen in the 20^th century, and Sessions lived the majority of his life in the 20^thcentury. Given his age, he probably watched a lot of WW2 movies in his youth. He has no excuse for getting this wrong. The Nazi holocaust started out as a mass deportation until some bureaucrat figured out that it would be cheaper to deport all the Jews.

Lately, much print has been written about that famous boat full of Jewish refugees that America turned away, resulting in most of those refugees returning to Nazi-controlled lands, resulting in their deaths. If the Nazis were preventing the Jews from leaving, how did an entire boat full of civilians make it all the way to the east coast of America? What, did that civilian passenger ship use its superior firepower to fight its way out of a German port?

To be fair, Germans did not want the Jews to escape; they wanted to keep them where they could work them to death, use them as test subjects in 'scientific' experiments and then gas the ones that either weren't fit for work or experimentation or who survived the work, experimentation and general starvation and disease which was rampant in the concentration camps. We know this for many reasons, one of which is that the Nazis were excellent record keepers.

So, Sessions is almost, kind of right???

Again, the Holocaust started out as mass deportation. The concentration camps came later when someone figured out that it would be cheaper to kill than to deport.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The US-Mexico border policies shouldn't be compared to Nazi Concentration Camps because the US has not attempted to steal away the humanity of the people they have interned... just their children... but only temporarily... hopefully... depending on your perspective. The conditions at the Nazi Concentration Camps are almost unimaginable while the conditions of the detained by the US border only rise to upsetting, disappointing. The separation of children in an what appears to be an unregulated program is deplorable.

That Sessions can't adequately describe how our border policy is different from Nazi Concentration Camps worries me because it seems to indicate his intentions and how he really feels about these people.

 

[bilby]

I expect the children will all be reunited with families. Surely the fine details are of little importance.

 

[laughing dog]

The Nazis had no problem deporting Jews from Poland, France, Italy, Denmark, Ukraine, etc..... Jeff Sessions is an ignorant embarrassment to the human race.

 

[arkirk]

The Nazis had no problem deporting Jews from Poland, France, Italy, Denmark, Ukraine, etc..... Jeff Sessions is an ignorant embarrassment to the human race.

His bullshit should never be tolerated by anyone. Sessions' ignorance is overwhelming. Germans moved Jews to death camps that frequently were in places like Poland. They were never turned loose. It wasn't that kind of deportation. It was deporting them so they could go meet God. Sessions ought to be deported, but my guess is there is no place that will take him and call him their own...except in his old district.

 

[Valjean]

The US-Mexico border policies shouldn't be compared to Nazi Concentration Camps because the US has not attempted to steal away the humanity of the people they have interned... just their children... but only temporarily... hopefully... depending on your perspective. The conditions at the Nazi Concentration Camps are almost unimaginable while the conditions of the detained by the US border only rise to upsetting, disappointing. The separation of children in an what appears to be an unregulated program is deplorable.

That Sessions can't adequately describe how our border policy is different from Nazi Concentration Camps worries me because it seems to indicate his intentions and how he really feels about these people.

Dehumanization is an inevitable component of injustice. It helps the abusers cope, and enables more abuse.
CF: Abu Ghraib or the Stanford Prison Experiment.
Is calling an immigrant an animal for breastfeeding her baby, then taking her baby away not dehumanizing? https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/c85kz43kz35t/us-migrant-family-separations

 

[Underseer]

The US-Mexico border policies shouldn't be compared to Nazi Concentration Camps because the US has not attempted to steal away the humanity of the people they have interned... just their children... but only temporarily... hopefully... depending on your perspective. The conditions at the Nazi Concentration Camps are almost unimaginable while the conditions of the detained by the US border only rise to upsetting, disappointing. The separation of children in an what appears to be an unregulated program is deplorable.

That Sessions can't adequately describe how our border policy is different from Nazi Concentration Camps worries me because it seems to indicate his intentions and how he really feels about these people.

Really?

Do we need to go over the 14 points of fascism and demonstrate how point by point, the conservatives and libertarians, who coincidentally happen to take similar positions on these issues meet all 14 points?

I mean, I wouldn't want to offend you. That's certainly a bigger concern than whether or not America is barreling towards fascism. I mean, if we use the word "Nazi" to make a comparison a couple of weeks too early, we might offend people and hurt their feelings.

For instance, we might hurt the feelings of people like this:

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Again, the Holocaust started out as mass deportation. The concentration camps came later when someone figured out that it would be cheaper to kill than to deport.

Deportation? I thought it started out as persecution & helping them to emigrate but not actual deportation.

 

[RavenSky]

The US-Mexico border policies shouldn't be compared to Nazi Concentration Camps because the US has not attempted to steal away the humanity of the people they have interned... just their children... but only temporarily... hopefully... depending on your perspective. The conditions at the Nazi Concentration Camps are almost unimaginable while the conditions of the detained by the US border only rise to upsetting, disappointing. The separation of children in an what appears to be an unregulated program is deplorable.

That Sessions can't adequately describe how our border policy is different from Nazi Concentration Camps worries me because it seems to indicate his intentions and how he really feels about these people.

Dehumanization is an inevitable component of injustice. It helps the abusers cope, and enables more abuse.
CF: Abu Ghraib or the Stanford Prison Experiment.
Is calling an immigrant an animal for breastfeeding her baby, then taking her baby away not dehumanizing? https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/c85kz43kz35t/us-migrant-family-separations

From one of the articles:

The location of another child's parent has been unknown for more than a year. Records show both parent and child might even be US citizens.

 

[RavenSky]

The US-Mexico border policies shouldn't be compared to Nazi Concentration Camps because the US has not attempted to steal away the humanity of the people they have interned... just their children... but only temporarily... hopefully... depending on your perspective. The conditions at the Nazi Concentration Camps are almost unimaginable while the conditions of the detained by the US border only rise to upsetting, disappointing. The separation of children in an what appears to be an unregulated program is deplorable.

That Sessions can't adequately describe how our border policy is different from Nazi Concentration Camps worries me because it seems to indicate his intentions and how he really feels about these people.

Really?

Do we need to go over the 14 points of fascism and demonstrate how point by point, the conservatives and libertarians, who coincidentally happen to take similar positions on these issues meet all 14 points?

I mean, I wouldn't want to offend you. That's certainly a bigger concern than whether or not America is barreling towards fascism. I mean, if we use the word "Nazi" to make a comparison a couple of weeks too early, we might offend people and hurt their feelings.

I think you may have missed the sarcasm in his first paragraph

 

[Arctish]

I think you may have missed the sarcasm in his first paragraph

We need a Bruce Campbell emoji so you can 'hear' the right tone of voice.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Do we need to go over the 14 points of fascism and demonstrate how point by point, the conservatives and libertarians, who coincidentally happen to take similar positions on these issues meet all 14 points?

It would be interesting to see you actually compare actual libertarian positions with fascist positions, but I doubt you have either the curiosity or the intellectual integrity to make the attempt. You just hope that by repeating your forced meme you can convince libertarians to support you and the rest of the alt-right.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

From one of the articles:

The location of another child's parent has been unknown for more than a year. Records show both parent and child might even be US citizens.

The child policy was bad enough as it was, and we've learned that apparently the execution of said policy is even worse, much worse. It is Trump's Katrina... but unlike Katrina, this was a disaster he created, W didn't cause the storm or the levees to fail (just created a bunch of new red tape in Homeland Security that made responding to the disaster so much harder).

To make matters worse, over half of Republicans agree with this policy. And I bet over half of them don't care what happens to the kids or parents. The radicals are in charge, enacting policies the general populace is against, but just enough are for, that it can happen and continue happening.

 

[steve_bank]

As I understand it, it was hard for Jews to just pack up and leave Germany. The goal was extinction of Jews. They were a source of slave labor. Considering Hispanics in a few decades will be the majority the idea we are treating Hispanics like Germans did Jews is absurd.

While there are ugly aspects that came to light of our border camps, comparing the border detention to Nazi concentration camps roes not fly.

Sessions is not the most eloquent in using analogy and metaphor. He is quite dull.