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Bidengate Breaks... err... down

I wasn't aware people were still talking about him.

They weren't, that's the problem. Poor guy is disappointed that his fifteen minutes of fame really did only last fifteen minutes.

Also it is possible that "come do business with me, I'll break into your computer and sell your hacked secrets to the press" wasn't the brilliant free marketing campaign he imagined it would be!
 
I wasn't aware people were still talking about him.

They weren't, that's the problem. Poor guy is disappointed that his fifteen minutes of fame really did only last fifteen minutes.

Also it is possible that "come do business with me, I'll break into your computer and sell your hacked secrets to the press" wasn't the brilliant free marketing campaign he imagined it would be!

Of course, the way Rudy sold it to him, it was supposed to be, "Come do business with the computer genius who took down Biden, and foiled the plot to depose Trump. MAGA!"
 
Repair shop owner at center of Hunter Biden saga defends himself

The Delaware computer shop owner at the heart of the Hunter Biden laptop saga has released a video defending himself against allegations that he’s a “Russian hacker” or spy.

John Paul Mac Isaac said he was “hired, never paid” to transfer information from a MacBook Pro to an external hard drive — which was later found to contain bombshell emails about Hunter Biden’s overseas business dealings.

“For two generations, the Mac Isaac family has fought for the entirety of the Cold War against communism in the ’70s,” Mac Isaac says in a 3-minute YouTube video titled “The truth” and posted Dec. 5.

“That’s why it’s completely absurd that why anyone would ever consider me to be a Russian agent or influenced by Russians. I am proud of my family, I’m proud of my country. I am proud to be an American.”

Mac Issac turned over a copy of the laptop to Rudy Giuliani’s lawyer, Bob Costello, after it and the external hard drive were seized by the FBI last year.

:rofl: I'd like to know who was making that accusation.
 
Uh oh...

The New York Times Belatedly Admits the Emails on Hunter Biden's Abandoned Laptop Are Real and Newsworthy

Yesterday The New York Times published a story that quotes emails from a laptop that Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden's son, abandoned at a computer repair shop in Delaware. The messages reinforce the impression that Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company that reportedly paid the younger Biden $50,000 a month to serve on its board, expected him to use his influence with his father for the company's benefit—an allegation that figured prominently in the scandal that led to Donald Trump's impeachment for pressuring the Ukrainian government to announce a Biden-Burisma corruption investigation. The messages include evidence that Hunter Biden arranged an April 2015 meeting between his father, then the vice president, and a Burisma executive.

If all that sounds familiar, it's because the New York Post first reported this eyebrow-raising information back in October 2020, a month before the presidential election. Pro-Biden, anti-Trump journalists, including several at the Times, portrayed the Post's story as unsubstantiated at best. Politico reported that "more than 50 former senior intelligence officials" believed the emails had "all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation." Some journalists suggested it was reckless even to acknowledge the Post's report. Twitter, which initially blocked links to the article, seemed to agree. While the Times did not ignore the story, the paper's coverage treated it with skepticism and disdain.

But that was then. A year and a half later, the Times thinks the emails it viewed as suspect before Joe Biden's election are now newsworthy. "People familiar" with a federal investigation of Hunter Biden, it reports, "said prosecutors had examined emails" between him, his former business partner Devon Archer, "and others" regarding "Burisma and other foreign business activity." Those emails "were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop." The messages "were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation."

Reading through this thread, it seems some people here might be eating crow with a side of mashed potatoes for dinner tonight.
 
Uh oh...

The New York Times Belatedly Admits the Emails on Hunter Biden's Abandoned Laptop Are Real and Newsworthy

Yesterday The New York Times published a story that quotes emails from a laptop that Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden's son, abandoned at a computer repair shop in Delaware. The messages reinforce the impression that Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company that reportedly paid the younger Biden $50,000 a month to serve on its board, expected him to use his influence with his father for the company's benefit—an allegation that figured prominently in the scandal that led to Donald Trump's impeachment for pressuring the Ukrainian government to announce a Biden-Burisma corruption investigation. The messages include evidence that Hunter Biden arranged an April 2015 meeting between his father, then the vice president, and a Burisma executive.

If all that sounds familiar, it's because the New York Post first reported this eyebrow-raising information back in October 2020, a month before the presidential election. Pro-Biden, anti-Trump journalists, including several at the Times, portrayed the Post's story as unsubstantiated at best. Politico reported that "more than 50 former senior intelligence officials" believed the emails had "all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation." Some journalists suggested it was reckless even to acknowledge the Post's report. Twitter, which initially blocked links to the article, seemed to agree. While the Times did not ignore the story, the paper's coverage treated it with skepticism and disdain.

But that was then. A year and a half later, the Times thinks the emails it viewed as suspect before Joe Biden's election are now newsworthy. "People familiar" with a federal investigation of Hunter Biden, it reports, "said prosecutors had examined emails" between him, his former business partner Devon Archer, "and others" regarding "Burisma and other foreign business activity." Those emails "were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop." The messages "were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation."

Reading through this thread, it seems some people here might be eating crow with a side of mashed potatoes for dinner tonight.

But why do we think it's real in the first place?
 
Uh oh...

The New York Times Belatedly Admits the Emails on Hunter Biden's Abandoned Laptop Are Real and Newsworthy

Yesterday The New York Times published a story that quotes emails from a laptop that Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden's son, abandoned at a computer repair shop in Delaware. The messages reinforce the impression that Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company that reportedly paid the younger Biden $50,000 a month to serve on its board, expected him to use his influence with his father for the company's benefit—an allegation that figured prominently in the scandal that led to Donald Trump's impeachment for pressuring the Ukrainian government to announce a Biden-Burisma corruption investigation. The messages include evidence that Hunter Biden arranged an April 2015 meeting between his father, then the vice president, and a Burisma executive.

If all that sounds familiar, it's because the New York Post first reported this eyebrow-raising information back in October 2020, a month before the presidential election. Pro-Biden, anti-Trump journalists, including several at the Times, portrayed the Post's story as unsubstantiated at best. Politico reported that "more than 50 former senior intelligence officials" believed the emails had "all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation." Some journalists suggested it was reckless even to acknowledge the Post's report. Twitter, which initially blocked links to the article, seemed to agree. While the Times did not ignore the story, the paper's coverage treated it with skepticism and disdain.

But that was then. A year and a half later, the Times thinks the emails it viewed as suspect before Joe Biden's election are now newsworthy. "People familiar" with a federal investigation of Hunter Biden, it reports, "said prosecutors had examined emails" between him, his former business partner Devon Archer, "and others" regarding "Burisma and other foreign business activity." Those emails "were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop." The messages "were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation."

Reading through this thread, it seems some people here might be eating crow with a side of mashed potatoes for dinner tonight.
Holy shit am I embarrassed. I feel very bad about voting for Hunter Biden in 2020. Thanks for the update..... Oh shit, just realized that I didn't vote for Hunter!

Seriously Beave! I respect your opinion. Why should I spend precious time of mine getting worked up about Hunter Biden? Why should I care? I'm not surprised at all that he's probably done some seriously sleazy shit. Probably the vast majority of kids from politicians are sleazy. But why does it matter to me? Fox news and Washington Post are getting worked up about this issue again. And seriously, I'm a little bored this weekend. Can't ski because it's raining! So I googled "Why should the Hunter Biden laptop matter to me?" And I got nothing! So please help me Beave: why should I care about Hunter?
 
Are there any emails from Hunter saying he would actually do what Burisma wanted him to do?

And how do we know these emails are legitimate? These computers passed through many hands before getting to the FBI.
 
Uh oh...

The New York Times Belatedly Admits the Emails on Hunter Biden's Abandoned Laptop Are Real and Newsworthy

Yesterday The New York Times published a story that quotes emails from a laptop that Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden's son, abandoned at a computer repair shop in Delaware. The messages reinforce the impression that Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company that reportedly paid the younger Biden $50,000 a month to serve on its board, expected him to use his influence with his father for the company's benefit—an allegation that figured prominently in the scandal that led to Donald Trump's impeachment for pressuring the Ukrainian government to announce a Biden-Burisma corruption investigation. The messages include evidence that Hunter Biden arranged an April 2015 meeting between his father, then the vice president, and a Burisma executive.

If all that sounds familiar, it's because the New York Post first reported this eyebrow-raising information back in October 2020, a month before the presidential election. Pro-Biden, anti-Trump journalists, including several at the Times, portrayed the Post's story as unsubstantiated at best. Politico reported that "more than 50 former senior intelligence officials" believed the emails had "all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation." Some journalists suggested it was reckless even to acknowledge the Post's report. Twitter, which initially blocked links to the article, seemed to agree. While the Times did not ignore the story, the paper's coverage treated it with skepticism and disdain.

But that was then. A year and a half later, the Times thinks the emails it viewed as suspect before Joe Biden's election are now newsworthy. "People familiar" with a federal investigation of Hunter Biden, it reports, "said prosecutors had examined emails" between him, his former business partner Devon Archer, "and others" regarding "Burisma and other foreign business activity." Those emails "were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop." The messages "were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation."

Reading through this thread, it seems some people here might be eating crow with a side of mashed potatoes for dinner tonight.
Holy shit am I embarrassed. I feel very bad about voting for Hunter Biden in 2020. Thanks for the update..... Oh shit, just realized that I didn't vote for Hunter!

Seriously Beave! I respect your opinion. Why should I spend precious time of mine getting worked up about Hunter Biden? Why should I care? I'm not surprised at all that he's probably done some seriously sleazy shit. Probably the vast majority of kids from politicians are sleazy. But why does it matter to me? Fox news and Washington Post are getting worked up about this issue again. And seriously, I'm a little bored this weekend. Can't ski because it's raining! So I googled "Why should the Hunter Biden laptop matter to me?" And I got nothing! So please help me Beave: why should I care about Hunter?
Hunter Biden is a loser, and honestly, I really don't give a shit about him. I fully expect politicians and their kids (including Trump's) to be sleazy and corrupt as well. Its the nature of the beast, unfortunately. To me, Hunter is not the focal point of this.

What bugs me is the blatant media manipulation of the news. Apparently, a lot of smart people on this thread back in Oct 2020 were led to believe the laptop story was bogus based on what the media was feeding them (or not feeding them). I'm sure basic TDS was part of the reason why so many believed the story wasn't true, but I attribute a lot of it to flat out, blatant lies, selective reporting and manipulation by the media. Propaganda, if you will. This should bother everyone regardless of your political leanings.
 
Waddabout Ivanka?
Waddabout Junior?
Waddabout ERIc?????
Oh you started this! There is a rumor circulating around that a purse that was owned by Ivanka has a receipt in it that showed a donation to a local planned parenthood agency in North Carolina! And damn if Fox News is ignoring this news. What the hell is going on!!
 
Uh oh...

The New York Times Belatedly Admits the Emails on Hunter Biden's Abandoned Laptop Are Real and Newsworthy

Yesterday The New York Times published a story that quotes emails from a laptop that Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden's son, abandoned at a computer repair shop in Delaware. The messages reinforce the impression that Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company that reportedly paid the younger Biden $50,000 a month to serve on its board, expected him to use his influence with his father for the company's benefit—an allegation that figured prominently in the scandal that led to Donald Trump's impeachment for pressuring the Ukrainian government to announce a Biden-Burisma corruption investigation. The messages include evidence that Hunter Biden arranged an April 2015 meeting between his father, then the vice president, and a Burisma executive.

If all that sounds familiar, it's because the New York Post first reported this eyebrow-raising information back in October 2020, a month before the presidential election. Pro-Biden, anti-Trump journalists, including several at the Times, portrayed the Post's story as unsubstantiated at best. Politico reported that "more than 50 former senior intelligence officials" believed the emails had "all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation." Some journalists suggested it was reckless even to acknowledge the Post's report. Twitter, which initially blocked links to the article, seemed to agree. While the Times did not ignore the story, the paper's coverage treated it with skepticism and disdain.

But that was then. A year and a half later, the Times thinks the emails it viewed as suspect before Joe Biden's election are now newsworthy. "People familiar" with a federal investigation of Hunter Biden, it reports, "said prosecutors had examined emails" between him, his former business partner Devon Archer, "and others" regarding "Burisma and other foreign business activity." Those emails "were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop." The messages "were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation."

Reading through this thread, it seems some people here might be eating crow with a side of mashed potatoes for dinner tonight.
Holy shit am I embarrassed. I feel very bad about voting for Hunter Biden in 2020. Thanks for the update..... Oh shit, just realized that I didn't vote for Hunter!

Seriously Beave! I respect your opinion. Why should I spend precious time of mine getting worked up about Hunter Biden? Why should I care? I'm not surprised at all that he's probably done some seriously sleazy shit. Probably the vast majority of kids from politicians are sleazy. But why does it matter to me? Fox news and Washington Post are getting worked up about this issue again. And seriously, I'm a little bored this weekend. Can't ski because it's raining! So I googled "Why should the Hunter Biden laptop matter to me?" And I got nothing! So please help me Beave: why should I care about Hunter?
Hunter Biden is a loser, and honestly, I really don't give a shit about him. I fully expect politicians and their kids (including Trump's) to be sleazy and corrupt as well. Its the nature of the beast, unfortunately. To me, Hunter is not the focal point of this.

What bugs me is the blatant media manipulation of the news. Apparently, a lot of smart people on this thread back in Oct 2020 were led to believe the laptop story was bogus based on what the media was feeding them (or not feeding them). I'm sure basic TDS was part of the reason why so many believed the story wasn't true, but I attribute a lot of it to flat out, blatant lies, selective reporting and manipulation by the media. Propaganda, if you will. This should bother everyone regardless of your political leanings.
Beave: could it not be that the media ignored the story because people didn't care? I mean honestly, why should I get worked up about it? The media focuses on stories that sell ads. Who cares about Hunter's computer? It's not going to sell ads.
 
Uh oh...

The New York Times Belatedly Admits the Emails on Hunter Biden's Abandoned Laptop Are Real and Newsworthy

Yesterday The New York Times published a story that quotes emails from a laptop that Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden's son, abandoned at a computer repair shop in Delaware. The messages reinforce the impression that Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company that reportedly paid the younger Biden $50,000 a month to serve on its board, expected him to use his influence with his father for the company's benefit—an allegation that figured prominently in the scandal that led to Donald Trump's impeachment for pressuring the Ukrainian government to announce a Biden-Burisma corruption investigation. The messages include evidence that Hunter Biden arranged an April 2015 meeting between his father, then the vice president, and a Burisma executive.

If all that sounds familiar, it's because the New York Post first reported this eyebrow-raising information back in October 2020, a month before the presidential election. Pro-Biden, anti-Trump journalists, including several at the Times, portrayed the Post's story as unsubstantiated at best. Politico reported that "more than 50 former senior intelligence officials" believed the emails had "all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation." Some journalists suggested it was reckless even to acknowledge the Post's report. Twitter, which initially blocked links to the article, seemed to agree. While the Times did not ignore the story, the paper's coverage treated it with skepticism and disdain.

But that was then. A year and a half later, the Times thinks the emails it viewed as suspect before Joe Biden's election are now newsworthy. "People familiar" with a federal investigation of Hunter Biden, it reports, "said prosecutors had examined emails" between him, his former business partner Devon Archer, "and others" regarding "Burisma and other foreign business activity." Those emails "were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop." The messages "were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation."

Reading through this thread, it seems some people here might be eating crow with a side of mashed potatoes for dinner tonight.
Holy shit am I embarrassed. I feel very bad about voting for Hunter Biden in 2020. Thanks for the update..... Oh shit, just realized that I didn't vote for Hunter!

Seriously Beave! I respect your opinion. Why should I spend precious time of mine getting worked up about Hunter Biden? Why should I care? I'm not surprised at all that he's probably done some seriously sleazy shit. Probably the vast majority of kids from politicians are sleazy. But why does it matter to me? Fox news and Washington Post are getting worked up about this issue again. And seriously, I'm a little bored this weekend. Can't ski because it's raining! So I googled "Why should the Hunter Biden laptop matter to me?" And I got nothing! So please help me Beave: why should I care about Hunter?
Hunter Biden is a loser, and honestly, I really don't give a shit about him. I fully expect politicians and their kids (including Trump's) to be sleazy and corrupt as well. Its the nature of the beast, unfortunately. To me, Hunter is not the focal point of this.

What bugs me is the blatant media manipulation of the news. Apparently, a lot of smart people on this thread back in Oct 2020 were led to believe the laptop story was bogus based on what the media was feeding them (or not feeding them). I'm sure basic TDS was part of the reason why so many believed the story wasn't true, but I attribute a lot of it to flat out, blatant lies, selective reporting and manipulation by the media. Propaganda, if you will. This should bother everyone regardless of your political leanings.
Beave: could it not be that the media ignored the story because people didn't care? I mean honestly, why should I get worked up about it? The media focuses on stories that sell ads. Who cares about Hunter's computer? It's not going to sell ads.
I'm sure a lot of people don't care, but when an election is imminent and is expected to be a "nailbiter", media manipulation of a scandal can easily swing an election. Seems obvious to me. The last two elections we've had were pretty tight up until election day.
 
Uh oh...

The New York Times Belatedly Admits the Emails on Hunter Biden's Abandoned Laptop Are Real and Newsworthy

Yesterday The New York Times published a story that quotes emails from a laptop that Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden's son, abandoned at a computer repair shop in Delaware. The messages reinforce the impression that Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company that reportedly paid the younger Biden $50,000 a month to serve on its board, expected him to use his influence with his father for the company's benefit—an allegation that figured prominently in the scandal that led to Donald Trump's impeachment for pressuring the Ukrainian government to announce a Biden-Burisma corruption investigation. The messages include evidence that Hunter Biden arranged an April 2015 meeting between his father, then the vice president, and a Burisma executive.

If all that sounds familiar, it's because the New York Post first reported this eyebrow-raising information back in October 2020, a month before the presidential election. Pro-Biden, anti-Trump journalists, including several at the Times, portrayed the Post's story as unsubstantiated at best. Politico reported that "more than 50 former senior intelligence officials" believed the emails had "all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation." Some journalists suggested it was reckless even to acknowledge the Post's report. Twitter, which initially blocked links to the article, seemed to agree. While the Times did not ignore the story, the paper's coverage treated it with skepticism and disdain.

But that was then. A year and a half later, the Times thinks the emails it viewed as suspect before Joe Biden's election are now newsworthy. "People familiar" with a federal investigation of Hunter Biden, it reports, "said prosecutors had examined emails" between him, his former business partner Devon Archer, "and others" regarding "Burisma and other foreign business activity." Those emails "were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop." The messages "were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation."

Reading through this thread, it seems some people here might be eating crow with a side of mashed potatoes for dinner tonight.
Holy shit am I embarrassed. I feel very bad about voting for Hunter Biden in 2020. Thanks for the update..... Oh shit, just realized that I didn't vote for Hunter!

Seriously Beave! I respect your opinion. Why should I spend precious time of mine getting worked up about Hunter Biden? Why should I care? I'm not surprised at all that he's probably done some seriously sleazy shit. Probably the vast majority of kids from politicians are sleazy. But why does it matter to me? Fox news and Washington Post are getting worked up about this issue again. And seriously, I'm a little bored this weekend. Can't ski because it's raining! So I googled "Why should the Hunter Biden laptop matter to me?" And I got nothing! So please help me Beave: why should I care about Hunter?
Hunter Biden is a loser, and honestly, I really don't give a shit about him. I fully expect politicians and their kids (including Trump's) to be sleazy and corrupt as well. Its the nature of the beast, unfortunately. To me, Hunter is not the focal point of this.

What bugs me is the blatant media manipulation of the news. Apparently, a lot of smart people on this thread back in Oct 2020 were led to believe the laptop story was bogus based on what the media was feeding them (or not feeding them). I'm sure basic TDS was part of the reason why so many believed the story wasn't true, but I attribute a lot of it to flat out, blatant lies, selective reporting and manipulation by the media. Propaganda, if you will. This should bother everyone regardless of your political leanings.
Beave: could it not be that the media ignored the story because people didn't care? I mean honestly, why should I get worked up about it? The media focuses on stories that sell ads. Who cares about Hunter's computer? It's not going to sell ads.
I'm sure a lot of people don't care, but when an election is imminent and is expected to be a "nailbiter", media manipulation of a scandal can easily swing an election. Seems obvious to me. The last two elections we've had were pretty tight up until election day.
Do you also consider it media manipulation that the media didn't focus on all the scandals that the Trump children were involved in? How about the Pences? Did you know that Mike Pence disowned two of his kids? I'll bet that there are some juicy stories there. Do you think that the media should focus on the Pence children? If not, what is it that makes Hunter so special?
 
Uh oh...

The New York Times Belatedly Admits the Emails on Hunter Biden's Abandoned Laptop Are Real and Newsworthy

Yesterday The New York Times published a story that quotes emails from a laptop that Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden's son, abandoned at a computer repair shop in Delaware. The messages reinforce the impression that Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company that reportedly paid the younger Biden $50,000 a month to serve on its board, expected him to use his influence with his father for the company's benefit—an allegation that figured prominently in the scandal that led to Donald Trump's impeachment for pressuring the Ukrainian government to announce a Biden-Burisma corruption investigation. The messages include evidence that Hunter Biden arranged an April 2015 meeting between his father, then the vice president, and a Burisma executive.

If all that sounds familiar, it's because the New York Post first reported this eyebrow-raising information back in October 2020, a month before the presidential election. Pro-Biden, anti-Trump journalists, including several at the Times, portrayed the Post's story as unsubstantiated at best. Politico reported that "more than 50 former senior intelligence officials" believed the emails had "all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation." Some journalists suggested it was reckless even to acknowledge the Post's report. Twitter, which initially blocked links to the article, seemed to agree. While the Times did not ignore the story, the paper's coverage treated it with skepticism and disdain.

But that was then. A year and a half later, the Times thinks the emails it viewed as suspect before Joe Biden's election are now newsworthy. "People familiar" with a federal investigation of Hunter Biden, it reports, "said prosecutors had examined emails" between him, his former business partner Devon Archer, "and others" regarding "Burisma and other foreign business activity." Those emails "were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop." The messages "were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation."

Reading through this thread, it seems some people here might be eating crow with a side of mashed potatoes for dinner tonight.
Holy shit am I embarrassed. I feel very bad about voting for Hunter Biden in 2020. Thanks for the update..... Oh shit, just realized that I didn't vote for Hunter!

Seriously Beave! I respect your opinion. Why should I spend precious time of mine getting worked up about Hunter Biden? Why should I care? I'm not surprised at all that he's probably done some seriously sleazy shit. Probably the vast majority of kids from politicians are sleazy. But why does it matter to me? Fox news and Washington Post are getting worked up about this issue again. And seriously, I'm a little bored this weekend. Can't ski because it's raining! So I googled "Why should the Hunter Biden laptop matter to me?" And I got nothing! So please help me Beave: why should I care about Hunter?
Hunter Biden is a loser, and honestly, I really don't give a shit about him. I fully expect politicians and their kids (including Trump's) to be sleazy and corrupt as well. Its the nature of the beast, unfortunately. To me, Hunter is not the focal point of this.

What bugs me is the blatant media manipulation of the news. Apparently, a lot of smart people on this thread back in Oct 2020 were led to believe the laptop story was bogus based on what the media was feeding them (or not feeding them). I'm sure basic TDS was part of the reason why so many believed the story wasn't true, but I attribute a lot of it to flat out, blatant lies, selective reporting and manipulation by the media. Propaganda, if you will. This should bother everyone regardless of your political leanings.
Beave: could it not be that the media ignored the story because people didn't care? I mean honestly, why should I get worked up about it? The media focuses on stories that sell ads. Who cares about Hunter's computer? It's not going to sell ads.
I'm sure a lot of people don't care, but when an election is imminent and is expected to be a "nailbiter", media manipulation of a scandal can easily swing an election. Seems obvious to me. The last two elections we've had were pretty tight up until election day.
Do you also consider it media manipulation that the media didn't focus on all the scandals that the Trump children were involved in? How about the Pences? Did you know that Mike Pence disowned two of his kids? I'll bet that there are some juicy stories there. Do you think that the media should focus on the Pence children? If not, what is it that makes Hunter so special?

Uh oh...

The New York Times Belatedly Admits the Emails on Hunter Biden's Abandoned Laptop Are Real and Newsworthy

Yesterday The New York Times published a story that quotes emails from a laptop that Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden's son, abandoned at a computer repair shop in Delaware. The messages reinforce the impression that Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company that reportedly paid the younger Biden $50,000 a month to serve on its board, expected him to use his influence with his father for the company's benefit—an allegation that figured prominently in the scandal that led to Donald Trump's impeachment for pressuring the Ukrainian government to announce a Biden-Burisma corruption investigation. The messages include evidence that Hunter Biden arranged an April 2015 meeting between his father, then the vice president, and a Burisma executive.

If all that sounds familiar, it's because the New York Post first reported this eyebrow-raising information back in October 2020, a month before the presidential election. Pro-Biden, anti-Trump journalists, including several at the Times, portrayed the Post's story as unsubstantiated at best. Politico reported that "more than 50 former senior intelligence officials" believed the emails had "all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation." Some journalists suggested it was reckless even to acknowledge the Post's report. Twitter, which initially blocked links to the article, seemed to agree. While the Times did not ignore the story, the paper's coverage treated it with skepticism and disdain.

But that was then. A year and a half later, the Times thinks the emails it viewed as suspect before Joe Biden's election are now newsworthy. "People familiar" with a federal investigation of Hunter Biden, it reports, "said prosecutors had examined emails" between him, his former business partner Devon Archer, "and others" regarding "Burisma and other foreign business activity." Those emails "were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop." The messages "were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation."

Reading through this thread, it seems some people here might be eating crow with a side of mashed potatoes for dinner tonight.
Holy shit am I embarrassed. I feel very bad about voting for Hunter Biden in 2020. Thanks for the update..... Oh shit, just realized that I didn't vote for Hunter!

Seriously Beave! I respect your opinion. Why should I spend precious time of mine getting worked up about Hunter Biden? Why should I care? I'm not surprised at all that he's probably done some seriously sleazy shit. Probably the vast majority of kids from politicians are sleazy. But why does it matter to me? Fox news and Washington Post are getting worked up about this issue again. And seriously, I'm a little bored this weekend. Can't ski because it's raining! So I googled "Why should the Hunter Biden laptop matter to me?" And I got nothing! So please help me Beave: why should I care about Hunter?
Hunter Biden is a loser, and honestly, I really don't give a shit about him. I fully expect politicians and their kids (including Trump's) to be sleazy and corrupt as well. Its the nature of the beast, unfortunately. To me, Hunter is not the focal point of this.

What bugs me is the blatant media manipulation of the news. Apparently, a lot of smart people on this thread back in Oct 2020 were led to believe the laptop story was bogus based on what the media was feeding them (or not feeding them). I'm sure basic TDS was part of the reason why so many believed the story wasn't true, but I attribute a lot of it to flat out, blatant lies, selective reporting and manipulation by the media. Propaganda, if you will. This should bother everyone regardless of your political leanings.
Beave: could it not be that the media ignored the story because people didn't care? I mean honestly, why should I get worked up about it? The media focuses on stories that sell ads. Who cares about Hunter's computer? It's not going to sell ads.
I'm sure a lot of people don't care, but when an election is imminent and is expected to be a "nailbiter", media manipulation of a scandal can easily swing an election. Seems obvious to me. The last two elections we've had were pretty tight up until election day.
Do you also consider it media manipulation that the media didn't focus on all the scandals that the Trump children were involved in? How about the Pences? Did you know that Mike Pence disowned two of his kids? I'll bet that there are some juicy stories there. Do you think that the media should focus on the Pence children? If not, what is it that makes Hunter so special?
While the stories about Hunter's drug use, hookers, baby out of wedlock, tax evasion, seducing his dead brother's wife, etc make for good tabloid fodder, what makes Hunter's story so special is the possible involvement his father had in his Burisma dealings. That has yet to be fully sorted out, but time will tell. It has traditionally been the media's domain to root out corruption at our highest level of government. Think Watergate.

As far as Trump goes, the media had a serious hate boner for him (CNN in particular), so I would be surprised if they were holding back on reporting on any misdoings. Why would they do that? What Trump kid scandals did they not report on, and what is the deal with Mike Pence's two kids?
 
I feel like we are seeing a rather transparent attempt by the post to claim something not in evidence.

Uh oh...

The New York Times Belatedly Admits the Emails on Hunter Biden's Abandoned Laptop Are Real and Newsworthy

Yesterday The New York Times published a story that quotes emails from a laptop that Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden's son, abandoned at a computer repair shop in Delaware. The messages reinforce the impression that Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company that reportedly paid the younger Biden $50,000 a month to serve on its board, expected him to use his influence with his father for the company's benefit—an allegation that figured prominently in the scandal that led to Donald Trump's impeachment for pressuring the Ukrainian government to announce a Biden-Burisma corruption investigation. The messages include evidence that Hunter Biden arranged an April 2015 meeting between his father, then the vice president, and a Burisma executive.

Looking at that bolded part - the recent Times story seems ot say nothing of the kind.


Current actual NYT story said:
In one email to Mr. Archer in April 2014, Mr. Biden outlined his vision for working with Burisma. In the email, Hunter Biden indicated that the forthcoming announcement of a trip to Ukraine by Vice President Biden — who is referred to in the email as “my guy,” but not by name — should “be characterized as part of our advice and thinking — but what he will say and do is out of our hands.”

The announcement “could be a really good thing or it could end up creating too great an expectation. We need to temper expectations regarding that visit,” Hunter Biden wrote.

Vice President Biden traveled to Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital, about a week after the email.

In the same April 2014 email, Hunter Biden indicated that Burisma’s officials “need to know in no uncertain terms that we will not and cannot intervene directly with domestic policymakers, and that we need to abide by FARA and any other U.S. laws in the strictest sense across the board.”

He suggested enlisting the law firm where he worked at the time, Boies Schiller Flexner, to help Burisma through “direct discussions at state, energy and NSC,” referring to two cabinet departments and the National Security Council at the White House.
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The firm “can devise a media plan and arrange for legal protections and mitigate U.S. domestic negative press regarding the current leadership if need be,” Mr. Biden wrote in the email.

Mr. Biden, Mr. Archer, Boies Schiller Flexner and Blue Star Strategies did not register under FARA on behalf of Burisma.

In another set of emails examined by prosecutors, Hunter Biden and Mr. Archer discussed inviting foreign business associates, including a Burisma executive, to a dinner in April 2015 at a Washington restaurant where Vice President Biden would stop by. It is not clear whether the Burisma executive attended the dinner, although the vice president did make an appearance, according to people familiar with the event.

So, no, the story does not “ include evidence that Hunter Biden arranged an April 2015 meeting between his father, then the vice president, and a Burisma executive.”

He does not arrange a meeting between, he tells the executive where his father is going to be. If I told a criminal that you had plans to be at a certain restaurant, does that mean I’ve “arranged a meeting between you”?

Come on.

But that was then. A year and a half later, the Times thinks the emails it viewed as suspect before Joe Biden's election are now newsworthy.
Again, no.
It is doing a story on the tax question that is legitimately in the news because of legal dates, and is including the background.

Come on, “they now think it is newsworthy?”
No, they did not change their minds, they are reporting it exactly the same way they did before.


"People familiar" with a federal investigation of Hunter Biden, it reports, "said prosecutors had examined emails" between him, his former business partner Devon Archer, "and others" regarding "Burisma and other foreign business activity." Those emails "were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop." The messages "were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation."

Reading through this thread, it seems some people here might be eating crow with a side of mashed potatoes for dinner tonight.


It seems like you might want to pick up a fork for that crow pie.

Your premise that the NYT “now thinks it’s newsworthy” is bunk.
Your premise that the emails “show Hunter arranging a meeting” is bunk.

It looks exactly as it did before. A connected kid trying to make money off his connections, and having nothing but his own promises to sell. He even explicitly says he can’t promise Joe’s cooperation. None of these show that Hunter was successful at it, or that Joe Biden cooperated in any way.

Just as unfounded and dumb as it was 18 months ago. And just as unfounded and dumb to say that either the NYT changed its mind or that we should.
 
what makes Hunter's story so special is the possible involvement his father had in his Burisma dealings. That has yet to be fully sorted out validated whatsoever.

FIFY again.
OTOH, Ivanka's Chinapatentgate is a real story, but for some reason FOX news isn't talking about it!
 
Just as unfounded and dumb as it was 18 months ago. And just as unfounded and dumb to say that either the NYT changed its mind or that we should.

I keep thinking of Lou Dobbs talking about the massive voter fraud scandal of 2020, saying, "Everybody knows" there was voter fraud, but "we have had a devil of a time finding actual proof." :rofl: I saw that as it was first aired and laughed my ass off. What conundrum! But I'm sure the evidence will eventually come to light about that and about Hunter Biden's association with the Klingons, who everybody knows funneled $7 quadrillion to Hillary Clinton's human trafficking scheme. You just gotta have faith!
 
I feel like we are seeing a rather transparent attempt by the post to claim something not in evidence.

Uh oh...

The New York Times Belatedly Admits the Emails on Hunter Biden's Abandoned Laptop Are Real and Newsworthy

Yesterday The New York Times published a story that quotes emails from a laptop that Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden's son, abandoned at a computer repair shop in Delaware. The messages reinforce the impression that Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company that reportedly paid the younger Biden $50,000 a month to serve on its board, expected him to use his influence with his father for the company's benefit—an allegation that figured prominently in the scandal that led to Donald Trump's impeachment for pressuring the Ukrainian government to announce a Biden-Burisma corruption investigation. The messages include evidence that Hunter Biden arranged an April 2015 meeting between his father, then the vice president, and a Burisma executive.

Looking at that bolded part - the recent Times story seems ot say nothing of the kind.


Current actual NYT story said:
In one email to Mr. Archer in April 2014, Mr. Biden outlined his vision for working with Burisma. In the email, Hunter Biden indicated that the forthcoming announcement of a trip to Ukraine by Vice President Biden — who is referred to in the email as “my guy,” but not by name — should “be characterized as part of our advice and thinking — but what he will say and do is out of our hands.”

The announcement “could be a really good thing or it could end up creating too great an expectation. We need to temper expectations regarding that visit,” Hunter Biden wrote.

Vice President Biden traveled to Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital, about a week after the email.

In the same April 2014 email, Hunter Biden indicated that Burisma’s officials “need to know in no uncertain terms that we will not and cannot intervene directly with domestic policymakers, and that we need to abide by FARA and any other U.S. laws in the strictest sense across the board.”

He suggested enlisting the law firm where he worked at the time, Boies Schiller Flexner, to help Burisma through “direct discussions at state, energy and NSC,” referring to two cabinet departments and the National Security Council at the White House.
ADVERTISEMENT
Continue reading the main story

The firm “can devise a media plan and arrange for legal protections and mitigate U.S. domestic negative press regarding the current leadership if need be,” Mr. Biden wrote in the email.

Mr. Biden, Mr. Archer, Boies Schiller Flexner and Blue Star Strategies did not register under FARA on behalf of Burisma.

In another set of emails examined by prosecutors, Hunter Biden and Mr. Archer discussed inviting foreign business associates, including a Burisma executive, to a dinner in April 2015 at a Washington restaurant where Vice President Biden would stop by. It is not clear whether the Burisma executive attended the dinner, although the vice president did make an appearance, according to people familiar with the event.

So, no, the story does not “ include evidence that Hunter Biden arranged an April 2015 meeting between his father, then the vice president, and a Burisma executive.”

He does not arrange a meeting between, he tells the executive where his father is going to be. If I told a criminal that you had plans to be at a certain restaurant, does that mean I’ve “arranged a meeting between you”?

Come on.

But that was then. A year and a half later, the Times thinks the emails it viewed as suspect before Joe Biden's election are now newsworthy.
Again, no.
It is doing a story on the tax question that is legitimately in the news because of legal dates, and is including the background.

Come on, “they now think it is newsworthy?”
No, they did not change their minds, they are reporting it exactly the same way they did before.


"People familiar" with a federal investigation of Hunter Biden, it reports, "said prosecutors had examined emails" between him, his former business partner Devon Archer, "and others" regarding "Burisma and other foreign business activity." Those emails "were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop." The messages "were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation."

Reading through this thread, it seems some people here might be eating crow with a side of mashed potatoes for dinner tonight.


It seems like you might want to pick up a fork for that crow pie.

Your premise that the NYT “now thinks it’s newsworthy” is bunk.
Your premise that the emails “show Hunter arranging a meeting” is bunk.

It looks exactly as it did before. A connected kid trying to make money off his connections, and having nothing but his own promises to sell. He even explicitly says he can’t promise Joe’s cooperation. None of these show that Hunter was successful at it, or that Joe Biden cooperated in any way.

Just as unfounded and dumb as it was 18 months ago. And just as unfounded and dumb to say that either the NYT changed its mind or that we should.
You seem to be missing the point, or perhaps I wasn't quite clear enough. The issue at hand is that the NYT has essentially now admitted that the emails did come from Hunter Biden's laptop that was left in a Delaware repair shop, and that those emails were authenticated. Here is cut-and-paste what the NYT said in their article:

People familiar with the investigation said prosecutors had examined emails between Mr. Biden, Mr. Archer and others about Burisma and other foreign business activity. Those emails were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop. The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation.

The prevailing theory back in 2020 by many was that the laptop contents did not originate from Hunter, but were Russian fabricated disinformation. Or that the laptop never existed in the first place. You have focused on whether the reason.com article I quoted faithfully relayed the details of the NYT article, which it does seem they could have done a better job.
 
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