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Brandon gets his cut of a dodgy of a Hunter deal;

A business associate of Hunter Biden referred in a text message to 'the Big Guy' - the second time the reference was made, increasing suspicion that the nickname refers to Joe Biden. James Gilliar, a British businessman, in May 2017 had emailed his associates - including Hunter - to formalize how they would divide the spoils from their deal with China's largest private energy company. Gilliar wrote that the proceeds would be split, with 20 percent each to four partners, including 'JG' - assumed to be himself - and 'H', assumed to be Hunter.
Cryptically the remaining 20 percent would be divided, with 10 percent to 'Jim' - likely Hunter's uncle, Jim Biden, and '10 held by H for the big guy'. Earlier this month, the White House said that the president stands by his comments that he never spoke with his son Hunter about his business dealings - despite DailyMail.com revealing a voicemail where he did just that.

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Plenty more to come.
More? What is taking The Daily Mail so long to release something that actually means something? If this were a scandal... it'd been written by Jane Austen.
Wait for it. It's coming any day now. Just ask pillow guy.
 

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So this bullshit started on October 12, 2020 when the New York Post did an anonymous smear piece that to this day no journalist is willing to put their name to. That's been 659 days. Or nearly a year and ten months. Since then no evidence and no arrests. To use a comparison, Mueller started his investigation on May 17, 2017. 659 days after that was March 7, 2019. At which point there was numerous convictions and enough assets seized for the investigation to pay for itself.

Yikes, right wingers are fucking pathetic to still buy this horseshit.
 

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Brandon gets his cut of a dodgy of a Hunter deal;

A business associate of Hunter Biden referred in a text message to 'the Big Guy' - the second time the reference was made, increasing suspicion that the nickname refers to Joe Biden. James Gilliar, a British businessman, in May 2017 had emailed his associates - including Hunter - to formalize how they would divide the spoils from their deal with China's largest private energy company. Gilliar wrote that the proceeds would be split, with 20 percent each to four partners, including 'JG' - assumed to be himself - and 'H', assumed to be Hunter.
Cryptically the remaining 20 percent would be divided, with 10 percent to 'Jim' - likely Hunter's uncle, Jim Biden, and '10 held by H for the big guy'. Earlier this month, the White House said that the president stands by his comments that he never spoke with his son Hunter about his business dealings - despite DailyMail.com revealing a voicemail where he did just that.

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Plenty more to come.
More? What is taking The Daily Mail so long to release something that actually means something? If this were a scandal... it'd been written by Jane Austen.
They're trying to milk it for all it's worth?

I mean...look at how clever they are about revealing information! It starts with a text message referencing "the Big Guy." Plus it was the second time they used that reference, and as everyone knows, Joe's nickname is "the Big Guy." Always has been. Even Trump called him that! (citation needed)

Then there's some assuming, and we all know what it means when you assume something, right? I know, your cynical mind went to the "it makes and ass out of u and me" joke, but no....assuming is good journalism!

But then they do what in my old business was called a "tease-payoff." Well, they did the tease. See, they started with a text message, some suspicion, and assuming, but then they sprang the "revealing a voicemail where he did just that" surprise! Turns out that paragon of investigative reporting has a voicemail where "the Big Guy" gives up the entire scheme and says all the dirty stuff on tape! "I, Joe Biden, certify this deal for my son Hunter Biden so that he can buy cocaine and hookers!" Well...you actually just rent hookers, but the big guy gets sleepy sometimes!

Anyway, the point is that the Daily Mail has a voicemail where Joe Biden cops to organizing a shady business deal for Hunter, then admits to taking his cut, and ends the call with "I'm the Big Guy." It's all there on the voicemail, but the Daily Mail is sitting on it so they can have a really big reveal to sell some papers...as all good journalists do! Most would think that having such an admission on tape would be a huge scoop that they'd run right away, but these newshounds are cagey!

And can you blame them? The "Hunter Biden's Laptop" story is the biggest news item out there right now. Russian invasion of a neighbor? China's economy teetering over a bad Covid policy? America finally bagging the last 9/11 mastermind? Nope. It all pales in comparison to the source of Hunter Biden's blow money. In fact I predict this will eclipse the Civil War as the big story all the kids will learn about in history class...right up there with the American Revolution and who won the first season of American Idol.
 

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Tad something... Somthing Tash... oh Clay Aiken... I really knew that one!

Oh wait... that was season two... oh... and he didn't win. Well, at least I'll know about Hunter's blow.
 

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So this bullshit started on October 12, 2020 when the New York Post did an anonymous smear piece that to this day no journalist is willing to put their name to. That's been 659 days. Or nearly a year and ten months. Since then no evidence and no arrests. To use a comparison, Mueller started his investigation on May 17, 2017. 659 days after that was March 7, 2019. At which point there was numerous convictions and enough assets seized for the investigation to pay for itself.

Yikes, right wingers are fucking pathetic to still buy this horseshit.
Exactly. We are nearing two years and the evidence hasn't really changed, they just seem to Taco Bell it up and post another article.... in England. And these guys need to order new underwear every time something "new" has come out.
 

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Looks like Brandon has been telling porkies about having nothing to do with meth fiend son's business dealings;

Two Chinese businessmen with ties to Hunter Biden's company met with Joe Biden at the White House and followed up with the VP's son days later with a fawning email and invitation, records reveal. The meeting is the fifteenth to be uncovered between Joe and businessmen linked to Hunter. Executives for Chinese energy company Wanxiang secured a meeting with the vice president in the West Wing in July 2014 with just one day's notice, according to White House visitor logs.

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Oh Brandon, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.
 

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Recent posts in this thread remind me of two events with my brother from childhood years in Coeur d'Alene seventy years ago. Both were with the Thompson boys who lived across the alley. First was heavy exchange of rotting apples between two sheds across the alley and the second was a snowball exchange between snow forts across the alley. Waste of fruit. Waste of snow.

Motivation? We didn't get along.
 

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Looks like Brandon has been telling porkies about having nothing to do with meth fiend son's business dealings;

Two Chinese businessmen with ties to Hunter Biden's company met with Joe Biden at the White House and followed up with the VP's son days later with a fawning email and invitation, records reveal. The meeting is the fifteenth to be uncovered between Joe and businessmen linked to Hunter. Executives for Chinese energy company Wanxiang secured a meeting with the vice president in the West Wing in July 2014 with just one day's notice, according to White House visitor logs.

Daily Mail

Oh Brandon, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

omg, this is huge! you've blown it wide open!

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Looks like Brandon has been telling porkies about having nothing to do with meth fiend son's business dealings;

Two Chinese businessmen with ties to Hunter Biden's company met with Joe Biden at the White House and followed up with the VP's son days later with a fawning email and invitation, records reveal. The meeting is the fifteenth to be uncovered between Joe and businessmen linked to Hunter. Executives for Chinese energy company Wanxiang secured a meeting with the vice president in the West Wing in July 2014 with just one day's notice, according to White House visitor logs.

Daily Mail

Oh Brandon, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

omg, this is huge! you've blown it wide open!

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It would be nice if say, 30% of all trumpsuckers had aneurysms after hearing about this awful, tragic state of affairs. That’s probably why these meetings aren’t secret like Donnie’s.
 

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I can’t help but wonder if the Daily Mail has a program where people on the web can sign up and get US$0.02 every time they link to the mag or something. Bonuses for every measureed viewer on the page that can be demonstrated by a screen cap of the “thread views” number.
 

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omg, this is huge! you've blown it wide open!

Huge or not, it’s still good that some outlets are reporting the tawdry Brandon family.


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Cutting, I’m so hurt. :rolleyesa:
 

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Huge or not, it’s still good that some outlets are reporting the tawdry Brandon family.
But you haven't actually explained the problem with a VP meeting with foreign energy companies.
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I can’t help but wonder if the Daily Mail has a program where people on the web can sign up and get US$0.02 every time they link to the mag or something. Bonuses for every measureed viewer on the page that can be demonstrated by a screen cap of the “thread views” number.

The army of gullible right wingers who spread the clickbait manure work for nothing. They get their satisfaction from the angry reactions it produces in social media. The Daily mail program is to generate a lot of bullshit to serve as fertilizer to grow their readership statistics.
 

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omg, this is huge! you've blown it wide open!

Huge or not, it’s still good that some outlets are reporting the tawdry Brandon family.


Cutting, I’m so hurt. :rolleyesa:
Does it bother you that the press dosn't spend much time investigating all of Trumps financial scandals. Such as the $250 million that he pilfered from his supporters? Or is it just democratic ethical questions that concern you?
 

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Does it bother you that the press dosn't spend much time investigating all of Trumps financial scandals.
But they did spend some time on it, right? They didn’t try to censor it did they? That would bother me a bit.

I suppose that Harry's point is that you spend a great deal more time on "Bidengate" than all of Donald Trump's scandals, even though there is very little meat to chew on when it comes to Hunter Biden, his father, and Chinese/Russian businessmen. Lots more to chew on with Trump.
 

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I suppose that Harry's point is that you spend a great deal more time on "Bidengate" than all of Donald Trump's scandals, even though there is very little meat to chew on when it comes to Hunter Biden, his father, and Chinese/Russian businessmen.

Is there a rule that I am breaking such that my time must be distributed evenly across corrupt politicians?
 

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I suppose that Harry's point is that you spend a great deal more time on "Bidengate" than all of Donald Trump's scandals, even though there is very little meat to chew on when it comes to Hunter Biden, his father, and Chinese/Russian businessmen.

Is there a rule that I am breaking such that my time must be distributed evenly across corrupt politicians?

If you were really concerned about corrupt politicians, you wouldn't be flogging a story in which there is no credible evidence of any corrupt behavior by the politician you are focusing on. There are so many others out there where we can identify an actual appearance of corruption. It's clear that you seem to want to focus exclusively on corruption by Democrats, but the worst you can come up with here is that Hunter Biden used his father's name to enrich himself and feed his drug habit. Hunter Biden never even worked in government positions, unlike Trump's children. You have a problem with Democratic politicians, and corruption has nothing to do with it. When Trump was in the White House, you never seemed bothered all that much by the nepotism and influence peddling.
 

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If you were really concerned about corrupt politicians, you wouldn't be flogging a story in which there is no credible evidence of any corrupt behavior by the politician you are focusing on.
Did I say I was “concerned”?
“Flogging”? Hardly.
“No credible evidence”? I’ve seen enough that I believe the “Big Guy” is up to his neck in the soft smelly stuff.

If you think differently, that’s cool.
 

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I suppose that Harry's point is that you spend a great deal more time on "Bidengate" than all of Donald Trump's scandals, even though there is very little meat to chew on when it comes to Hunter Biden, his father, and Chinese/Russian businessmen.

Is there a rule that I am breaking such that my time must be distributed evenly across corrupt politicians?
Not that I'm aware of, but your obsession with Hunter, your insistence on saying "Brandon," and refusal to even mention the infinitely more corrupt previous president makes one thing abundantly clear:

You don't care about the corruption. It's about party for you, and nothing else.

It's why you spend all your effort here gushing about the latest "breaking news" from a right wing tabloid over 8 year old dealings assisted by nepotism, but deliberately ignore that the previous guy gave his daughter and son in law positions actually in the White House that they were neither qualified for, couldn't pass security clearances for, and subsequently used to enrich themselves (violating multiple ethical standards and laws) at a level which makes Hunter look like a pauper.

And of course there's the other issue you'll never address that while the current guy's son struggled mightily with his addiction and dipped in and out of rehab, the former guy's eldest son clearly has at least as big a problem but has never even attempted to get sober. Apparently Hunter is a piece of shit in your world because he was a coke addict, but Don Jr. can do mountains of blow off of hooker's asses and you're just fine with that.

You should just be honest and say you have no problem whatsoever with the Trump family nepotism, corruption, and general shitfuckery, but you've got a "Let's Go Brandon" hard-on out of pure partisanship.

But that would require you to be honest...
 

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Yikes, right wingers are fucking pathetic to still buy this horseshit.
Bannon just had Alex Jones on his podcast and declared him one of the greatest political thinkers of all time and MTG is one of their top fund raisers. I think they'll buy anything at this point if they think it will stop tuh guvmint from taking their stuff and giving it to "those people" or turning their kids into gay frogs.
 

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Yikes, right wingers are fucking pathetic to still buy this horseshit.
Bannon just had Alex Jones on his podcast and declared him one of the greatest political thinkers of all time and MTG is one of their top fund raisers. I think they'll buy anything at this point if they think it will stop tuh guvmint from taking their stuff and giving it to "those people" or turning their kids into gay frogs.
The Arizona GOP (or part of it, at least) censured the Maricopa County Recorder for saying that Trump lost the 2020 election.

Perspective? He is literally the person in charge of running elections in the county. He knows intimately that Trump lost. And he's a Republican. And a Trump supporter. He is being punished by his own party for saying "no, but seriously...this is what I do for a living. Trump lost. Biden won. I wish it were otherwise, but..."

He said all of this a year ago, and got death threats from his fellow Trump supporters. This is where we are.

But hey...Hunter Biden's laptop?
 

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Not that I'm aware of, but your obsession with Hunter, your insistence on saying "Brandon,"

It's why you spend all your effort here gushing about the latest "breaking news" from a right wing tabloid over 8 year old dealings assisted by nepotism,

I would dispute how much time and effort I put into this tawdry story but I’m otherwise tied up trawling “right wing” tabloids looking for Hunter and Big Guy material. But the effort I expend is far less than the effort you spent ranting and raving about right wingers and me.

How come Brandon’s family not only gets a free pass from the media. Not only that but they denied the laptop’s experience and then tried to censor it?

Oh, and meth fiend Hunter just doesn’t seem to be a very nice guy and his dad is up to his neck in his business dealings.
 

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Not that I'm aware of, but your obsession with Hunter, your insistence on saying "Brandon,"

It's why you spend all your effort here gushing about the latest "breaking news" from a right wing tabloid over 8 year old dealings assisted by nepotism,

I would dispute how much time and effort I put into this tawdry story but I’m otherwise tied up trawling “right wing” tabloids looking for Hunter and Big Guy material. But the effort I expend is far less than the effort you spent ranting and raving about right wingers and me.

How come Brandon’s family not only gets a free pass from the media. Not only that but they denied the laptop’s experience and then tried to censor it?

Oh, and meth fiend Hunter just doesn’t seem to be a very nice guy and his dad is up to his neck in his business dealings.
You already know the answer to this. Some on the left rightly assumed that the Hunter Biden "laptop experience" was a nothing burger designed to distract people from the issues. Some assumed that the republicans pushing this were full of shit and that they wouldn't produce real evidence. And guess what - they were 1,000 percent correct! Your side is full of crap. Republicans push this crap about how the election was stolen, aliens are hosting child sex parties in Hillary's basement with zero evidence. And here we are, almost 2 years later, and your side hasn't produced any evidence. Zippo. If it isn't relevant now, how in the world was it relevant two years ago? Here's what I'd say to the republicans who are so obsessed with this story: If there is something interesting on the laptop that is directed at Joe Biden, release it. If there isn't, quit being such a drama queen!
 

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I would dispute how much time and effort I put into this tawdry story but I’m otherwise tied up trawling “right wing” tabloids looking for Hunter and Big Guy material. But the effort I expend is far less than the effort you spent ranting and raving about right wingers and me.

So basically, you're not interested in having a discussion and are doing the online equivalent of a monkey flinging excrement into a fan to see what happens. Strangely enough, I believe you.

How come Brandon’s family not only gets a free pass from the media. Not only that but they denied the laptop’s experience and then tried to censor it?

It's clear why you want people to think you don't spend a lot of time on this bullshit. That makes absolutely zero fucking sense. If the media censored Hunter's fucking laptop we wouldn't be talking about it. The reason I don't give a fuck is because there have been zero arrests and not much of an investigation. We've been down this fucking road before with Benjamin Ghazi, Obama's Shia Kenyan Connection and Bill Clinton being an assassin.

You and your tribe have cried wolf to many times for me to ever give you the benefit of the doubt. And just in case you're wondering, the total time it to for me to type this is two minutes, five seconds.
 

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Some on the left rightly assumed that the Hunter Biden "laptop existence"* was a nothing burger designed to distract people from the issues.
Such a “nothing burger” that it had to be censored.

Some assumed that the republicans pushing this were full of shit and that they wouldn't produce real evidence. And guess what - they were 1,000 percent correct!

Evidence of what?

The laptop and texts paint a very revealing picture of the tawdry Biden shenanigans. I don’t know why you’re having such a conniption about your guy and his dysfunctional family being revealed for the corrupt crooks they are and you are fine with the press being complicit in running interference for them. TDS seems to last forever.
 

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Some on the left rightly assumed that the Hunter Biden "laptop existence"* was a nothing burger designed to distract people from the issues.
Such a “nothing burger” that it had to be censored.

Some assumed that the republicans pushing this were full of shit and that they wouldn't produce real evidence. And guess what - they were 1,000 percent correct!

Evidence of what?

The laptop and texts paint a very revealing picture of the tawdry Biden shenanigans. I don’t know why you’re having such a conniption about your guy and his dysfunctional family being revealed for the corrupt crooks they are and you are fine with the press being complicit in running interference for them. TDS seems to last forever.
It might have been shocking to you that there were pictures of Hunter's tawdry shenanigans. But for me - Meh. I just don't care. And as for the censors, they sure did a poor job censoring fox news and all the other right wing news groups about this issue!
 

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It might have been shocking to you that there were pictures of Hunter's tawdry shenanigans.
Shocked? Jeezus, I’m not even slightly surprised that the Brandon family are dysfunctional and crooked.

But for me - Meh. I just don't care.

Says the person bitching about it for months.
And as for the censors, they sure did a poor job censoring fox news and all the other right wing news groups about this issue!
But the censors did try.
 

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Huge or not, it’s still good that some outlets are reporting the tawdry Brandon family.

Yeah it keeps Melaria’s nude photos and escort history off the front page. Not to mention Ivanka’s corrupt China patents and her husband’s 2b$ payola blood money!
 

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it had to be censored.
I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
Perhaps censor is too strong but Twitter and Facebook did suppress the dissemination of the story on their platforms. and CNN declared it a Russian misinformation hit piece along with 50 former FBI staff. CNN would have been more credible had they just ignored the story.
 

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How come Brandon’s family not only gets a free pass from the media
Because he's just some moderately successful racing car driver, with one win in seven years of racing, whose family are of little interest even to NASCAR fans.

Duh.

If you are really interested, according to Wikipedia:

"Brown graduated from Coastal Carolina University in 2018 with a degree in communication;[36] he was also a member of the Sigma Phi Epsilon fraternity.[2] The school serves as a primary sponsor on Brown's truck and Xfinity car.[9][37]

His father and team owner, Jerry Brown, underwent "aggressive" treatment for cancer after being diagnosed during a routine check-up on April 7, 2020.[38] He revealed that his father was cancer-free on August 26 after a five month battle.[39]"

While it's nice that his dad pulled through, it's really not the kind of story the tabloid media want to get their teeth into.
 

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it had to be censored.
I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
Perhaps censor is too strong but Twitter and Facebook did suppress the dissemination of the story on their platforms. and CNN declared it a Russian misinformation hit piece along with 50 former FBI staff. CNN would have been more credible had they just ignored the story.

It's not just too strong. It's laughably false.

Some outfits did come down on the unsubstantiated story. Most didn't, including the most mainstream of news, FOX.
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Private information: You may not publish or post other people's private information (such as home phone number and address) without their express authorization and permission. We also prohibit threatening to expose private information or incentivizing others to do so.
You may call that censorship but most people consider it common courtesy.
 

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it had to be censored.
I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
"Censorship" and "cancelled" are two of the right's many "we're the REAL victims here!" words. Apparently Twizzler thinks that if he flips from an hour long Sean Hannity Special Report on Hunter's Laptop over to MSNBC and Rachel Maddow isn't delivering a mea culpa as she nods her head to Hannity's "revelations," then the story is being "censored" and only truly objective news outlets like the Daily Mail and the Daily Wire are covering it.

Fox not covering the first day of the January 6th hearings when every other news outlet was? That's not censorship, or even bias! It's just Fair and Balanced!
 

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it had to be censored.
I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
Perhaps censor is too strong but Twitter and Facebook did suppress the dissemination of the story on their platforms. and CNN declared it a Russian misinformation hit piece along with 50 former FBI staff. CNN would have been more credible had they just ignored the story.
“Perhaps”?

It is not censorship when private companies make a decision about how their assets are used. You can thank conservatives for getting rid of the Fairness Doctrine.
 

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it had to be censored.
I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
Perhaps censor is too strong but Twitter and Facebook did suppress the dissemination of the story on their platforms. and CNN declared it a Russian misinformation hit piece along with 50 former FBI staff. CNN would have been more credible had they just ignored the story.
“Perhaps”?

It is not censorship when private companies make a decision about how their assets are used. You can thank conservatives for getting rid of the Fairness Doctrine.
Yep...even if the FD was still in effect, it wouldn't be applied to social media platforms. People should never consider these outlets as "news."
 

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Some on the left rightly assumed that the Hunter Biden "laptop existence"* was a nothing burger designed to distract people from the issues.
Such a “nothing burger” that it had to be censored.

Some assumed that the republicans pushing this were full of shit and that they wouldn't produce real evidence. And guess what - they were 1,000 percent correct!

Evidence of what?

The laptop and texts paint a very revealing picture of the tawdry Biden shenanigans. I don’t know why you’re having such a conniption about your guy and his dysfunctional family being revealed for the corrupt crooks they are and you are fine with the press being complicit in running interference for them. TDS seems to last forever.
My favorite part about the laptop is how almost nothing we've seen being alleged about Hunter Biden seem to be files one would find on a laptop. Just media stuff.
 

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I suppose that Harry's point is that you spend a great deal more time on "Bidengate" than all of Donald Trump's scandals, even though there is very little meat to chew on when it comes to Hunter Biden, his father, and Chinese/Russian businessmen.

Is there a rule that I am breaking such that my time must be distributed evenly across corrupt politicians?
The problem is you keep pointing to a match and screaming "Fire!" while ignoring the bonfire.
 
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