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Elder's Entourage assaulted in Homeless Camp.

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Larry Elder’s scheduled tour of homeless encampments in Venice ended shortly after it began Wednesday morning, with the leading Republican in the gubernatorial recall race hastily exiting in an SUV after being angrily confronted by a group of homeless people and advocates.

What is thought to be an egg was thrown by what appeared to be a white woman wearing a gorilla mask. The implications here are not so subtle. His security detail was also harassed and sounds like fists were swung towards them.

This recall is an absolute sham. What happened to Larry Elder is incomprehensibly wrong... in fact... why?! You can jeer a person perfectly without assaulting them or reflecting 19th century bigotry.
 

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I certainly agree that gubernatorial candidates should not be assaulted in the street, or subjected to racial harassment. I hope that my utter dislike of this person has not been construed as support for all possible means of opposing them. Just because I do not want someone to govern my state, does not mean I want to see them get hurt.
 

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Someone recently asked AOC about what to do about California. The state's governor tweeted what she said in an Instagram story:

Gavin Newsom on Twitter: "Listen to @AOC -- grab your ballot. Vote NO. And mail it by September 14th. There’s too much on the line. Make sure your voice is heard!! (link)" / Twitter

She responded:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "California: do not mess with this recall.

We need folks to TURN IN THEIR BALLOTS. Vote NO and drop it in the mail tomorrow.

Don’t sleep on this. It takes 5 mins but it’s urgent. We have so much work to do already and a nightmare fuel recall election is the last thing we need." / Twitter


The latest poll: Keep 54.3% Remove 42.0% - Latest Polls Of The California Recall Election | FiveThirtyEight

It's become a race between Gavin Newsom and Larry Elder, no matter how much GN-haters may dislike it. They had plenty of chance to support some Republican that is much like George Bush I, but they failed.

Trump, without evidence, already claiming Gavin Newsom recall election is 'rigged'
"It's probably rigged," Trump said. "They're sending out all ballots, the ballots are mail-in ballots; in fact, I guess you even have a case where you can make your own ballot. When that happens no one is going to win except these Democrats."

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With recent polling showing that Newsom has seemingly closed the partisan enthusiasm gap and seems likely to survive the recall (Democrats make up 47% of registered voters in California while Republicans make up only 24%), conservatives have increasingly turned to blaming fictitious voter fraud to preempt a potential loss.

On Tuesday, Fox News personality Tomi Lahren proclaimed on air "the only thing that will save Gavin Newsom is voter fraud," dismissing another panelist's explanation that Newsom's massive fundraising advantage has allowed him to build an army of staffers to connect with previously apathetic Democratic voters and convince them to cast ballots.
Will that have the effect that it did in Georgia late last year? Enough Republicans were discouraged from voting to let two Democrats win runoff elections for the Senate.

If the Republicans want to use their feet as target practice, let them.
 

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I certainly agree that gubernatorial candidates should not be assaulted in the street, or subjected to racial harassment. I hope that my utter dislike of this person has not been construed as support for all possible means of opposing them. Just because I do not want someone to govern my state, does not mean I want to see them get hurt.
Please don't mistake my post in suggesting in any way that there aren't political enemies that I wish to suffer from deep hurting. It just has to be natural and in no way imparted on them by a third party. ;)
 

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Can't t assume Newsom has won. It would be a easy victory for him in a regular election simply because of a big partisan advantage, but in this special election the Republicans are much more energized to vote, so it's going to depend on turnout.

There have been good numbers for Newsom so far in the ballots that have been turned in, but of course Republicans vote more on election day, nowadays.

Newsom has a 58% favorabilty rating in California, Elder is at 26%. This is so stupid.
 

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Can't t assume Newsom has won. It would be a easy victory for him in a regular election simply because of a big partisan advantage, but in this special election the Republicans are much more energized to vote, so it's going to depend on turnout.

There are plenty democrats (and independents) dissatisfied with Newsom's incompetence. Whether they are unhappy enough to remove him remains to be seen.
 

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Newsom has a 58% favorabilty rating in California, Elder is at 26%. This is so stupid.

California is stupid.

If I understand correctly, the duly elected governor needs to get 50.1% of the vote, but a noob like Elder can win with 10% of the vote.

Is that right?
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Can't t assume Newsom has won. It would be a easy victory for him in a regular election simply because of a big partisan advantage, but in this special election the Republicans are much more energized to vote, so it's going to depend on turnout.

There are plenty democrats (and independents) dissatisfied with Newsom's incompetence. Whether they are unhappy enough to remove him remains to be seen.

And replace him with what? A radio host who gets a tenth of Newsom's votes?

Seriously, why do you hate democracy?
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Newsom has a 58% favorabilty rating in California, Elder is at 26%. This is so stupid.

California is stupid.

If I understand correctly, the duly elected governor needs to get 50.1% of the vote, but a noob like Elder can win with 10% of the vote.

Is that right?
Tom
Democracy inaction!!
 

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Newsom has a 58% favorabilty rating in California, Elder is at 26%. This is so stupid.

California is stupid.

If I understand correctly, the duly elected governor needs to get 50.1% of the vote, but a noob like Elder can win with 10% of the vote.

Is that right?
Tom
Democracy inaction!!

And it cost $276,000,000 to do it!
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Newsom has a 58% favorabilty rating in California, Elder is at 26%. This is so stupid.

California is stupid.

If I understand correctly, the duly elected governor needs to get 50.1% of the vote, but a noob like Elder can win with 10% of the vote.

Is that right?
Tom

More or less, yeah. Technically, we are voting separately on two different things: on the one hand, on the recall, and elsewise, on the replacement. But because it is our stupid, stupid tradition to put both questions on one ballot, all the replacement needs to do is have more votes than all the other would-be replacements (always a crowded ballot full of loons), even if far more people would prefer to just keep the person who is there. No one denies the fact that no Republican could win California during a normal election at this point in history, the point of this recall election is to try and exploit the system to get someone in office who could not otherwise win a free and fair election.

This is down to state laws written at a time (the early Progressive Era) when the whole notion of state governance was viewed with great suspicion and (entirely legitimate) fear of corruption. We will certainly see some proposals for amending these rules in the wake of this recall. Whether any of them will succeed is much less obvious; the "status quo" is a very powerful force in Sacramento politics.
 

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Newsom has a 58% favorabilty rating in California, Elder is at 26%. This is so stupid.

California is stupid.

If I understand correctly, the duly elected governor needs to get 50.1% of the vote, but a noob like Elder can win with 10% of the vote.

Is that right?
Tom

More or less, yeah. Technically, we are voting separately on two different things: on the one hand, on the recall, and elsewise, on the replacement. But because it is our stupid, stupid tradition to put both questions on one ballot, all the replacement needs to do is have more votes than all the other would-be replacements (always a crowded ballot full of loons), even if far more people would prefer to just keep the person who is there. No one denies the fact that no Republican could win California during a normal election at this point in history, the point of this recall election is to try and exploit the system to get someone in office who could not otherwise win a free and fair election.

This is down to state laws written at a time (the early Progressive Era) when the whole notion of state governance was viewed with great suspicion and (entirely legitimate) fear of corruption. We will certainly see some proposals for amending these rules in the wake of this recall. Whether any of them will succeed is much less obvious; the "status quo" is a very powerful force in Sacramento politics.

Lawdamercy!

I remember when the Republican party was all about democracy and fiscal sanity and The Statue of Liberty and such old fashioned claptrap.

Well, that was then and this is now, obviously.
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Lawdamercy!

I remember when the Republican party was all about democracy and fiscal sanity and The Statue of Liberty and such old fashioned claptrap.

Well, that was then and this is now, obviously.
Tom

So do I! I've even voted for Republicans before; there was a time when there were some decent politicians on both sides of the aisle, at least here in the Golden State where our local concerns often outweighed national political arguments anyway. But the Trumpers have been very efficient about purging the ranks of anyone not in their dumb little cabal, and it has had a withering effect on the quality and maturity of political dialogue of any kind. Those times of decency and conversation are gone. I hope, not irrevocably. But Jesus, things do look bad as they now stand.
 

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Lawdamercy!

I remember when the Republican party was all about democracy and fiscal sanity and The Statue of Liberty and such old fashioned claptrap.

Well, that was then and this is now, obviously.
Tom

So do I! I've even voted for Republicans before; there was a time when there were some decent politicians on both sides of the aisle, at least here in the Golden State where our local concerns often outweighed national political arguments anyway. But the Trumpers have been very efficient about purging the ranks of anyone not in their dumb little cabal, and it has had a withering effect on the quality and maturity of political dialogue of any kind. Those times of decency and conversation are gone. I hope, not irrevocably. But Jesus, things do look bad as they now stand.

Poor Larry...

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So a white person in a gorilla mask throws eggs at a black person, and you aren't outraged or offended? Isn't this a textbook classic example of racism?

Probably not. Do you think the egg throwing was racism? The gorilla mask ? Elder does say there were some n-bombs thrown his way.
 

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Tuesday, California goes to the voting booths.

538
Keep - 56.2%
Remove - 41.6%
Keep - +14.1%

Real Clear Politics
Remove - 41.4%
Do Not Remove - 56.4%
Do Not Remove - +15%

Wednesday morning at Faux Noise is going to see some long faces and sullen, snarling silliness.
 

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Tuesday, California goes to the voting booths.

538
Keep - 56.2%
Remove - 41.6%
Keep - +14.1%

Real Clear Politics
Remove - 41.4%
Do Not Remove - 56.4%
Do Not Remove - +15%

Wednesday morning at Faux Noise is going to see some long faces and sullen, snarling silliness.

Voter fraud! Dominion! Italian satellites!
 

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The Right is now saying that the only way a Democrat can win in California is through fraud.
 

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Tuesday, California goes to the voting booths.

538
Keep - 56.2%
Remove - 41.6%
Keep - +14.1%

Real Clear Politics
Remove - 41.4%
Do Not Remove - 56.4%
Do Not Remove - +15%

Wednesday morning at Faux Noise is going to see some long faces and sullen, snarling silliness.
If the recall wins, this'll be the end of polling. Otherwise, this should be the end of easy recall efforts.
 

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The Right is now saying that the only way a Democrat can win in California is through fraud.

This was always the plan. The current party leadership doesn't seem to mind the "Boy Who Cried Wolf" phenomenon inherent to describing all but only the elections they lose fraudulent. They weeded all the smart people out of the party six years ago, and know that their remaining base will believe the lie all the more firmly because of the repetition.
 

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In case you need further evidence to believe the bullshit character of Republican complaints about fraud, Elder's website is already reporting that he has "detected fraud" in the "results" of the election that.... hasn't happened yet. He detected it with the instruments in his time machine, I guess?
 

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In case you need further evidence to believe the bullshit character of Republican complaints about fraud, Elder's website is already reporting that he has "detected fraud" in the "results" of the election that.... hasn't happened yet. He detected it with the instruments in his time machine, I guess?
Many Californians (including me) use mail-in voting. Ballots have started being collected already, so in principle irregularities could have arisen. Not that I believe that.

Edited to add:
Now, having actually looked at link it does appear as if they are addressing the results, which indeed do not exist yet. Further the application of Benford’s Law to elections has already been heavily addressed with regard to the 2020 presidential election, so I would be skeptical of its application here as meaningful and not manipulative.
 

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Tomorrow is election day in Cal. MSNBC's Steve Kornacki will be manning his Big Board through the night.
Watching Elder get kicked good and hard and watching the feathers fly.
 

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Gavin Newsom hobnobbing with anti-police, pro-left-wing-terrorism extremist.

Newsom rally speaker has repeatedly called for convicted cop killers to be released from prison

A California professor campaigning for Gov. Gavin Newsom has repeatedly called for the release of two convicted cop killers and has praised a third, calling her a "freedom fighter" and saying she is "grateful" for her contributions toward achieving freedom.

Melina Abdullah, a professor at California State University, Los Angeles, was a speaker at an African American Voter Registration and Education Project event Monday in support of Newsom, where she attacked Larry Elder, a leading Black Republican gubernatorial candidate, as a "Black face on White supremacy." Newsom was reported to be in attendance at the event.

Abdullah, a co-founder of the Black Lives Matter chapter in Los Angeles and an "original member" of the national BLM leadership team, has a controversial history of defending convicted cop killers and calling for police departments to be abolished. A Fox News review of Abdullah's social media accounts found that she wants Mutulu Shakur and Sundiata Acoli released from prison, despite their involvement in two separate events that resulted in the murder of a New Jersey state trooper and the slayings of an armed guard and two police officers.

Newsom did not disavow her views. He is rubbish.
 

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Gavin Newsom hobnobbing with anti-police, pro-left-wing-terrorism extremist.

Newsom rally speaker has repeatedly called for convicted cop killers to be released from prison

A California professor campaigning for Gov. Gavin Newsom has repeatedly called for the release of two convicted cop killers and has praised a third, calling her a "freedom fighter" and saying she is "grateful" for her contributions toward achieving freedom.

Melina Abdullah, a professor at California State University, Los Angeles, was a speaker at an African American Voter Registration and Education Project event Monday in support of Newsom, where she attacked Larry Elder, a leading Black Republican gubernatorial candidate, as a "Black face on White supremacy." Newsom was reported to be in attendance at the event.

Abdullah, a co-founder of the Black Lives Matter chapter in Los Angeles and an "original member" of the national BLM leadership team, has a controversial history of defending convicted cop killers and calling for police departments to be abolished. A Fox News review of Abdullah's social media accounts found that she wants Mutulu Shakur and Sundiata Acoli released from prison, despite their involvement in two separate events that resulted in the murder of a New Jersey state trooper and the slayings of an armed guard and two police officers.

Newsom did not disavow her views. He is rubbish.

The call for release of DOCTOR Mutulu Shakur is due to his having bone cancer. It's called "compassionate release" for someone who is not supposed to get a life sentence, but will likely die in prison anyway due to an illness.
What's "rubbish" about that?
 

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Gavin Newsom hobnobbing with anti-police, pro-left-wing-terrorism extremist.

Newsom rally speaker has repeatedly called for convicted cop killers to be released from prison

A California professor campaigning for Gov. Gavin Newsom has repeatedly called for the release of two convicted cop killers and has praised a third, calling her a "freedom fighter" and saying she is "grateful" for her contributions toward achieving freedom.

Melina Abdullah, a professor at California State University, Los Angeles, was a speaker at an African American Voter Registration and Education Project event Monday in support of Newsom, where she attacked Larry Elder, a leading Black Republican gubernatorial candidate, as a "Black face on White supremacy." Newsom was reported to be in attendance at the event.

Abdullah, a co-founder of the Black Lives Matter chapter in Los Angeles and an "original member" of the national BLM leadership team, has a controversial history of defending convicted cop killers and calling for police departments to be abolished. A Fox News review of Abdullah's social media accounts found that she wants Mutulu Shakur and Sundiata Acoli released from prison, despite their involvement in two separate events that resulted in the murder of a New Jersey state trooper and the slayings of an armed guard and two police officers.

Newsom did not disavow her views. He is rubbish.

Larry Elder made that statement himself.
 

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Voting Day!

I was happy to see quite a line at the local community center on my way to get coffee. Yes, hyper-liberal East Bay tech bros. Go vote! Vote like rationality demands it! And everyone properly masked up and standing six feet apart, too. It was a sight to make Rob Welch curdle in his lonesome grave.
 

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In case you need further evidence to believe the bullshit character of Republican complaints about fraud, Elder's website is already reporting that he has "detected fraud" in the "results" of the election that.... hasn't happened yet. He detected it with the instruments in his time machine, I guess?
He is just taking a page out of the Trump playbook - cast doubts on the results in case they go against him.
 

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Gavin Newsom hobnobbing with anti-police, pro-left-wing-terrorism extremist.

Newsom rally speaker has repeatedly called for convicted cop killers to be released from prison

A California professor campaigning for Gov. Gavin Newsom has repeatedly called for the release of two convicted cop killers and has praised a third, calling her a "freedom fighter" and saying she is "grateful" for her contributions toward achieving freedom.

Melina Abdullah, a professor at California State University, Los Angeles, was a speaker at an African American Voter Registration and Education Project event Monday in support of Newsom, where she attacked Larry Elder, a leading Black Republican gubernatorial candidate, as a "Black face on White supremacy." Newsom was reported to be in attendance at the event.

Abdullah, a co-founder of the Black Lives Matter chapter in Los Angeles and an "original member" of the national BLM leadership team, has a controversial history of defending convicted cop killers and calling for police departments to be abolished. A Fox News review of Abdullah's social media accounts found that she wants Mutulu Shakur and Sundiata Acoli released from prison, despite their involvement in two separate events that resulted in the murder of a New Jersey state trooper and the slayings of an armed guard and two police officers.

Newsom did not disavow her views. He is rubbish.
Ho hum, another smear by association using a Fox news source.
 

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Larry Elder made that statement himself.

That makes it well worth repeating by our "I'm not a Trumpsucker"s.

Gavin Newsom hobnobbing with anti-police, pro-left-wing-terrorism extremist.

Oh? You found yourself an "anti-police, pro-left-wing-terrorism extremist"?
I'll see your anti-police, pro-left-wing-terrorism extremist and raise you a mob of 8000 cop-killing, capitol building trashing, violence-bent right wing anti-democracy fascists under the command of the guy Larry wanted to remain President.
 

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In case you need further evidence to believe the bullshit character of Republican complaints about fraud, Elder's website is already reporting that he has "detected fraud" in the "results" of the election that.... hasn't happened yet. He detected it with the instruments in his time machine, I guess?
He is just taking a page out of the Trump playbook - cast doubts on the results in case they go against him.

Doubts that will, of course, immediately be disavowed without any explanation if he wins.
 

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Another page borrowed from the Trump playbook:
the harmless, I'm-just-saying, fake-fretting insinuations that Conservatives might need to start shooting people if elections don't go their way.

"They say that in America, there are four boxes of liberty," the Elder campaign's website added. "The soapbox, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammo box. Will we now have to fight the California jury box, in the hope that the final box — the one most akin to Pandora's — remains closed?"

"Gee, I hope it doesn't come to this, but..."

Here's me hoping one of his own MAGAtards shoots him, for losing to a Dem. The "ammo box," indeed.

(Also...
Note to those readers in countries other than America: nobody in America says that dumbass saying that "they" say.)
 

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Larry Elder made that statement himself.

That makes it well worth repeating by our "I'm not a Trumpsucker"s.

Gavin Newsom hobnobbing with anti-police, pro-left-wing-terrorism extremist.

Oh? You found yourself an "anti-police, pro-left-wing-terrorism extremist"?
I'll see your anti-police, pro-left-wing-terrorism extremist and raise you a mob of 8000 cop-killing, capitol building trashing, violence-bent right wing anti-democracy fascists under the command of the guy Larry wanted to remain President.

Wow. The unarmed J6 crowd didn’t kill any cops. Amazing the tenacity of a narrative lie.
 

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That makes it well worth repeating by our "I'm not a Trumpsucker"s.



Oh? You found yourself an "anti-police, pro-left-wing-terrorism extremist"?
I'll see your anti-police, pro-left-wing-terrorism extremist and raise you a mob of 8000 cop-killing, capitol building trashing, violence-bent right wing anti-democracy fascists under the command of the guy Larry wanted to remain President.

Wow. The unarmed J6 crowd didn’t kill any cops. Amazing the tenacity of a narrative lie.

So, you are saying that despite their efforts they were underachievers in this as well as in stopping the count?
 

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That makes it well worth repeating by our "I'm not a Trumpsucker"s.



Oh? You found yourself an "anti-police, pro-left-wing-terrorism extremist"?
I'll see your anti-police, pro-left-wing-terrorism extremist and raise you a mob of 8000 cop-killing, capitol building trashing, violence-bent right wing anti-democracy fascists under the command of the guy Larry wanted to remain President.

Wow. The unarmed J6 crowd didn’t kill any cops. Amazing the tenacity of a narrative lie.

So, you are saying that despite their efforts they were underachievers in this as well as in stopping the count?

Cool. Can’t admit you were wrong so change the subject.
 

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So, you are saying that despite their efforts they were underachievers in this as well as in stopping the count?

Cool. Can’t admit you were wrong so change the subject.

*I* didn't say they were a cop-killing mob, so no admission needed on my part. Take that up with Elixir.

I, actually, am quite surprised at the restraint on both sides. I guess the rioters thought that they might lose in a firefight, or at least would cause panic that would disrupt the mob's progress into the Capitol. I don't know. And the cops usually seem to be willing to shoot when they fear for their lives -- like some of them said they did -- at least out on the street when they out number their opponents.
 

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Drudge Report, my go to website for the Trumpish version of news, has all but called the election for Newsom.

All the top stories are explanations for why Newsom is so far ahead.

538 is also giving Newsom about 60% of the vote.

Tom
 

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The call for release of DOCTOR Mutulu Shakur
Jeral Wayne Williams (aka "Mutulu Shakur") is NOT a doctor, medical or otherwise. He used to be a "licensed acupuncturist", but that is not the same thing.
And even if he was, what bearing would a doctorate have on his crimes?

is due to his having bone cancer. It's called "compassionate release"
That is the tactic Williams' supporters are using to get him out, but it is not the reason why Abdullah is supporting him. She is supporting him because of his activities with BLA, a black Marxist terrorist organization. That's why she is also supporting the release of another BLA terrorist, Clark Edward Squire (aka "Sundiata Acoli") and has praised Joanne Chesimard (aka "Assata Shakur") who has been a fugitive from justice for decades. These two murdered a New Jersey state trooper in 1973. Williams, among other things, orchestrated a robbery of an armored money transport in which two police officers and a guard were murdered. He also helped Chesimard escape from prison and evade justice (she is currently being harbored by the communist regime in Cuba).

for someone who is not supposed to get a life sentence, but will likely die in prison anyway due to an illness.
He got 60 years, so barring parole, he is supposed to get out in 2046, when he would be 96 year old. I do not think the judge thought Williams would likely leave prison alive when he sentenced him to six decades in the slammer. In any case, behind bars is where this piece of shit belongs.

What's "rubbish" about that?
Pretty much everything. She is supporting terrorist scum just because they are black and left-wing. Melina Abdullah (that last name btw means "Slave of Allah") herself is a Marxist, so that's a good fit with Black Panther/BLA ideology.
 

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Vote like rationality demands it!
So against Gavin "French Laundry" Newsom.

Right, Derec. Vote to install another Trumpsucking wackadoodle.

Polls close in a few minutes… yawn. The election was over days ago. There was massive fraud and Newsome was retained. Too bad for our freedumz.
Democrats can never win without massive fraud.
 

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Vote like rationality demands it!
So against Gavin "French Laundry" Newsom.

Larry Elder being Governor sounds rational to you?

So? Are you denying Melina Abdullah spoke at Newsom's rally or that she is a Marxist who supports BLA terrorists?

I've gotta admit, I'm kinda impressed with your ability to always inject a black person we should all be outraged against in any discussion. From an objective viewpoint, that involves a lot of talent. Not entirely productive, but hey credit where it's due Derec.
 

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Right, Derec. Vote to install another Trumpsucking wackadoodle.
Elder is only one of a myriad of candidates. Dems had a chance to vote "yes" on removing Newsom and then vote for somebody other than Elder for his replacement.

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