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Charlie Kirk shot at (shot?) in Utah

Jimmy Higgins said:
Gospel said:
Whether I agree with his opinions or not, I respect him for engaging in public debates, especially at our universities, because that’s something America has always needed, and it’s needed now more than ever.
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We need him at universities as much as we need to be teaching YEC in biology. One thing that is pissing me off about coverage is how Kirk is a Conservative influencer. He isn't a fucking a conservative. He is a far-right lunatic.

But even far-right lunatics have equal protection under our laws in this country. And while he supported the rescinding of equal protection from others, I do not wish the same for him.
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This is the kind of shit that has emboldened conservatives-turned-full blown fascist.

Where was this outrage and conciliatory respect from the right when Gretchen Whitmer was the target of a plot to kidnap, rape and murder her? Where was this sympathy when John Hoffman was murdered? What about Melissa and Mark Hortman?

Oh poor Charlie. Poor, poor, Charlie. Children murdered in schools are worth keeping military grade rifles available to the public. Mental health facilities cost too much-----you know the ones that might've prevented some school shootings. It's alllllll good until it happens to poor motherfuckin' Charlie.

Liberals are afraid of the backlash? I've elucidated many times over why we're perceived as weak and easy to oppress, so I won't go through it again. Suffice it to say the backlash wouldn't be such a grave concern if the fascists had cause to be concerned.
 
Gospel said:
he was targeted for speaking.
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That's the (probable) fact unless my conspiracy theory is correct.
Either way it is beyond lamentable.
But the right wing canonizing him in all outrage... is sickening, considering the silence when one of their own goes after a Democrat.
If this guy isn't found pretty quick I'm afraid ...
 
pood said:
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Derec said:
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Something I've noticed in just scanning my usual internet pages...

This story is being splashed on every major news site, right, left, and on every platform. People on the right screaming about political violence and such.

I don't recall this level of coverage when the Speaker of the Minnesota House of Representatives was murdered in her home alongside her husband.
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And there is also a lot of glee about Charlie Kirk on places like Reddit.
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This is my issue: you don't have to like someone's views to stand up for them when they're killed over those views. Charlie Kirk didn't lose his life because he personally brought violence to anyone;
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He may not have personally brought violence to anyone (though I am not even sure about that) but he may well have indirectly done that.

He was a scumbag.
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he was targeted for speaking. In any decent civic culture, there's a baseline respect owed to the messenger, the town crier who brings the message to the square, even when we hate the message. The shooter denied him that, and that should offend all of us when it happens to the least and the greatest of us, opposition to us or allies to us.
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Tell that to Trump and his Trumpanzees who are trying to murder these very things.
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Detractors once smeared Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. as “scumbags.” I get death to scumbags like Hitler, he didn’t just voice opinions; he led an army and a genocidal state. There’s a world of difference between a messenger bringing arguments to the public square and a general commanding violence.
 
Gospel said:
Derec said:
Ford said:
Something I've noticed in just scanning my usual internet pages...

This story is being splashed on every major news site, right, left, and on every platform. People on the right screaming about political violence and such.

I don't recall this level of coverage when the Speaker of the Minnesota House of Representatives was murdered in her home alongside her husband.
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And there is also a lot of glee about Charlie Kirk on places like Reddit.
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This is my issue: you don't have to like someone's views to stand up for them when they're killed over those views. Charlie Kirk didn't lose his life because he personally brought violence to anyone; he was targeted for speaking. In any decent civic culture, there's a baseline respect owed to the messenger, the town crier who brings the message to the square, even when we hate the message. The shooter denied him that, and that should offend all of us when it happens to the least and the greatest of us, opposition to us or allies to us.
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Kirk expressed strong criticism of Martin Luther King Jr., calling him "not a good person" and argued that the Civil Rights Act was a "mistake". These comments were made in January 2024 at the organization's AmericaFest conference and on social media.

Need I really add more?
 
Gospel said:
pood said:
Gospel said:
Derec said:
Ford said:
Something I've noticed in just scanning my usual internet pages...

This story is being splashed on every major news site, right, left, and on every platform. People on the right screaming about political violence and such.

I don't recall this level of coverage when the Speaker of the Minnesota House of Representatives was murdered in her home alongside her husband.
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And there is also a lot of glee about Charlie Kirk on places like Reddit.
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This is my issue: you don't have to like someone's views to stand up for them when they're killed over those views. Charlie Kirk didn't lose his life because he personally brought violence to anyone;
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He may not have personally brought violence to anyone (though I am not even sure about that) but he may well have indirectly done that.

He was a scumbag.
Gospel said:
he was targeted for speaking. In any decent civic culture, there's a baseline respect owed to the messenger, the town crier who brings the message to the square, even when we hate the message. The shooter denied him that, and that should offend all of us when it happens to the least and the greatest of us, opposition to us or allies to us.
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Tell that to Trump and his Trumpanzees who are trying to murder these very things.
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Detractors once smeared Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. as “scumbags.” I get death to scumbags like Hitler, he didn’t just voice opinions; he led an army and a genocidal state. There’s a world of difference between a messenger bringing arguments to the public square and a general commanding violence.
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I get it. Still.

Zero fucks given over the death of this POS.
 
Zuckerberg help me. For the first time in a decade I vented a paragraph on Facebook. It was a description of what Leopards Eating Faces means and I didn't mentioned poor, poor (oh so motherfucking poor!) Charlie, but that's it. Trumptards will be too stupid to get it.
 
If the new age started around 1910, Mr Kirk is correct. Otherwise, it’s just another example of a glib dumbass flapping his lips.
 
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From what I saw of the shooting the bullet seemed to have come from Kirk's right and exited to the left of his neck. The video has been removed and they are saying the shot came from on top of a building in the front right of Kirk.
 
GenesisNemesis said:
Ford said:
Something I've noticed in just scanning my usual internet pages...

This story is being splashed on every major news site, right, left, and on every platform. People on the right screaming about political violence and such.

I don't recall this level of coverage when the Speaker of the Minnesota House of Representatives was murdered in her home alongside her husband.
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Or when Nancy Pelosi and her husband were targeted for murder. The right just laughed.
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And still laugh..,
 
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