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Jimmy Higgins said:
I found working at home and working at the office to be about the same, with a slight advantage for collaboration when in person.

I live close to work, so I don't have this 1.5 hrs of daily driving to weigh in on the math.
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Same. I liked being able to occasionally break during the day to do something around the house during my lunch break, but I think overall, I was slightly more productive working from home.
 
I forgot to mention in my post above that though the first part of the pandemic, they were saying that back to office would start when case rates reached "Low" or green as the CDC rated counties at the time. But then as rates reached RED they didn't change course. Moving goal posts also made me angry.
 
Worldtraveller said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
I found working at home and working at the office to be about the same, with a slight advantage for collaboration when in person.

I live close to work, so I don't have this 1.5 hrs of daily driving to weigh in on the math.
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Same. I liked being able to occasionally break during the day to do something around the house during my lunch break, but I think overall, I was slightly more productive working from home.
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I had originally gone remote around 2009 because my kids were so out of control that I needed to be home just in case. I grew to like it so much because of the flexibility and because I got an hour and a half of my life back.

Besides, pre-pandemic, 90% of the people in my division of the company were either remote or at another company location, being in the office was pretty pointless. Pretty much the only people I had any reason to collaborate with were the sales guys and even then, because everyone else was remote most interactions were via Skype/Link/Teams at the time anyway.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
I found working at home and working at the office to be about the same, with a slight advantage for collaboration when in person.

I live close to work, so I don't have this 1.5 hrs of daily driving to weigh in on the math.
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Same. But in my case training my team is easier in person. Once mastered, they are just as productive home as in office.
 
I like the office and running into people in the office to say hi, and being able to pop in on people for a 5-minute collab, and the friday games in the meeting room.

Home can be handy, but I do like seeing the people. I’d be good with half days, tho.

Online can work, I do that with a lot of night meeting and early morning meetings for different time zones, but it’s not as good as in person, for me.

Granted, it does not require a long commute. I’m 13 minutes from door to desk, (including a quarter-mile walk from parking to office) and I’d have to go the same distance anyway for food, wine, fuel, book club or the gym.
 
repoman said:
Jimmy Higgins said:

Measles in Florida schools and the anti-vax movement grows, as the government coddles the madness.
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The measles vaccine works because measles itself is very amenable to vaccination producing very long term and nearly full immunity. Unfortunately, covid is not amenable to the same kind of vaccination success, no disrespect to the scientists trying.

By trying to oversell the efficacy of the covid vaccines with no discernment between vaccines for different infections, this is leading the reactive masses to think other vaccines are similarly oversold. For the most part the other vaccines are not oversold.

This is like reefer madness backlash but for vaccines. And yes, high strength cannabis is not all roses, but it is not fentanyl.
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Covid mutates so fast that vaccines aren't anything like 100%. Still, 50% is an awful lot better than 0%. We continue to do flu shots for the same reason--it's still better than not doing it.
 
bilby said:
TV and credit cards said:
arstechnica.com

RTO doesn’t improve company value, but does make employees miserable: Study

Data is consistent with bosses using RTO to reassert control and scapegoat workers.
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So it looks like Return to Office is just about so much dickery; wanting people to push around and something to blame for overall poor performance. But how far up the ladder does this RTO attitude extend? Is anyone considering the benefit of happy employees and the cost of office space?
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A big driver is the cost of office space - or rather, a desire to keep the price of office space up.

Lots of top managers and corporate shareholders (and of course, there's a big overlap between the two) have large investments in commercial real estate. If workers don't use that space, they stand to lose a LOT of money - money that was invested in what (in 2019) looked like a really safe asset class.

RTO is essential to support the retirement funds of the folks sitting in the boardroom; They need it to happen on a personal level, so they don't give two shits whether or not it makes good business sense. And they never much cared for happiness amongst their employees - employees get paychecks; If they want to be happy, they can do it on their own time.

A brief glance at the office towers in any major city gives you an appreciation of the problem here. These are very expensive structures, which are typically useless for any purpose other than office space - they cannot easily be repurposed as domestic or industrial spaces. Workers must RTO, if these buildings are to continue to return dividends for their investors (who just so happen to also be the owners and/or managers of the big white-collar firms that are calling for RTO).
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There is also the problem that when there's a major shift in business the ones on the wrong horse lose badly even if there was no way they could have known they were on the wrong horse. To get to the top you need to be both good and lucky--therefore you must make bad things look like good things.
 
barbos said:
Angra Mainyu said:
Btw, how are you feeling? Have you recovered completely yet?
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Almost 3 weeks now.
Except for sense of smell and some coughing I am perfectly fine.
Both are improving too. I noticed that I smell complex chemicals much better than simple ones like alcohol and vinegar.
Basically 3 days of high temperature, then 3 days of almost normal (36.8)
and after that it got better. I would call it a mild case.
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Got infected again. But this time it seems much milder variant I suppose. 4-5 days and I am almost normal, I think.
Still, it's worse than normal cold.
 
barbos said:
barbos said:
Angra Mainyu said:
Btw, how are you feeling? Have you recovered completely yet?
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Almost 3 weeks now.
Except for sense of smell and some coughing I am perfectly fine.
Both are improving too. I noticed that I smell complex chemicals much better than simple ones like alcohol and vinegar.
Basically 3 days of high temperature, then 3 days of almost normal (36.8)
and after that it got better. I would call it a mild case.
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Got infected again. But this time it seems much milder variant I suppose. 4-5 days and I am almost normal, I think.
Still, it's worse than normal cold.
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Did you lose taste?
 
I wonder if I still contagious. Still runny nose and occasional dry coughing like the last time.
It does not bother me much. But still, it looks like my hope that it will get to 100% way faster is hopeless.
It's gonna take the same time I am afraid.
 
The corrupt and incompetent WHO trying to lord over the world;

All the worst lessons are being drawn from Covid. In the event of a future pandemic, we seem set to make the same mistakes, only earlier, more aggressively and more repetitively. Like generals gearing up to lose the last war, the world’s scientific and medical bureaucracies are doubling down on the remedies that failed last time: stricter lockdowns, compulsory vaccination, a bigger role for the World Health Organisation (WHO). It was reported yesterday that, under the WHO’s proposed new pandemic treaty, due to be ratified in two weeks’ time, Britain would be forced to hand over a fifth of its drugs, vaccines and other ‘pandemic-related health products’ to the global bureaucracy.
The WHO is determined to be in control. Its initial draft contained a legal requirement for national governments to ‘follow its recommendations’ and force their citizens to do likewise.
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Daily Mail
 
barbos said:
barbos said:
Angra Mainyu said:
Btw, how are you feeling? Have you recovered completely yet?
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Almost 3 weeks now.
Except for sense of smell and some coughing I am perfectly fine.
Both are improving too. I noticed that I smell complex chemicals much better than simple ones like alcohol and vinegar.
Basically 3 days of high temperature, then 3 days of almost normal (36.8)
and after that it got better. I would call it a mild case.
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Got infected again. But this time it seems much milder variant I suppose. 4-5 days and I am almost normal, I think.
Still, it's worse than normal cold.
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That's what happens when you do not listen to your GP. You were told to get out of Ukraine.
 
TSwizzle said:
The corrupt and incompetent WHO trying to lord over the world;

All the worst lessons are being drawn from Covid. In the event of a future pandemic, we seem set to make the same mistakes, only earlier, more aggressively and more repetitively. Like generals gearing up to lose the last war, the world’s scientific and medical bureaucracies are doubling down on the remedies that failed last time: stricter lockdowns, compulsory vaccination, a bigger role for the World Health Organisation (WHO). It was reported yesterday that, under the WHO’s proposed new pandemic treaty, due to be ratified in two weeks’ time, Britain would be forced to hand over a fifth of its drugs, vaccines and other ‘pandemic-related health products’ to the global bureaucracy.
The WHO is determined to be in control. Its initial draft contained a legal requirement for national governments to ‘follow its recommendations’ and force their citizens to do likewise.
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Daily Mail
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The URL is enough to see they're idiots. Sweden got it right? By having a lot more deaths than it's neighbors?
 
Loren Pechtel said:
TSwizzle said:
The corrupt and incompetent WHO trying to lord over the world;

All the worst lessons are being drawn from Covid. In the event of a future pandemic, we seem set to make the same mistakes, only earlier, more aggressively and more repetitively. Like generals gearing up to lose the last war, the world’s scientific and medical bureaucracies are doubling down on the remedies that failed last time: stricter lockdowns, compulsory vaccination, a bigger role for the World Health Organisation (WHO). It was reported yesterday that, under the WHO’s proposed new pandemic treaty, due to be ratified in two weeks’ time, Britain would be forced to hand over a fifth of its drugs, vaccines and other ‘pandemic-related health products’ to the global bureaucracy.
The WHO is determined to be in control. Its initial draft contained a legal requirement for national governments to ‘follow its recommendations’ and force their citizens to do likewise.
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Daily Mail
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The URL is enough to see they're idiots. Sweden got it right? By having a lot more deaths than it's neighbors?
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Is there a way to topic blind the data about deaths in Sweden and other "similar" nations and get an unbiased accurate answer?

Bias is so inherent that people think that they are being fair about what data sets to include or exclude, but are they? Are they really?

Can you send the data to researchers and not even have them know it is about covid at all?
 
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