Credit Where Credit is Due: a shout out thread for Things Trump Did Right

[ZiprHead]

$10M for "Mozambique voluntary medical male circumcision"
- $9.7M for UC Berkeley to develop "a cohort of Cambodian youth with enterprise driven skills"
- $2.3M for "strengthening independent voices in Cambodia"
- $32M to the Prague Civil Society Centre
- $40M for "gender equality and women empowerment hub"
- $14M for "improving public procurement" in Serbia
- $486M to the “Consortium for Elections and Political Process Strengthening,” including $22M for "inclusive and participatory political process" in Moldova and $21M for voter turnout in India
- $29M to "strenghening political landscape in Bangladesh"
- $20M for "fiscal federalism" in Nepal
- $19M for "biodiversity conversation" in Nepal
- $1.5M for "voter confidence" in Liberia
- $14M for "social cohesion" in Mali
- $2.5M for "inclusive democracies in Southern Africa"
- $47M for "improving learning outcomes in Asia"
- $2M to develop "sustainable recycling models" to "increase socio-economic cohesion among marginalized communities of Kosovo Roma, Ashkali, and Egypt"

Did you add those up?
The Trump/Musk rape machine has already cause billions in economic damage and tens of billions in loss of US stature internationally.
The total of all the above "savings" (if they were all real, which they're not) is less than a single billion at first glance. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

LESS THAN A SIXTH OF THE PAPER VALUE OF THE FAKE STOCK DJT.

Less than a fortieth of one percent of the deficit proposed by TRUMP'S OWN BUDGET REQUEST which will add ANOTHER 4 TRILLION to the debt (he's asking Congress to raise the debt limit that much). The suckers are okay with him giving that away to his donors.

He's saying he's going to cut the deficit by a trillion while proposing to add FOUR trillion to it. And the suckers are all like, "okay, good job getting the deficit under control!"

WHY ARE TRUMPSUCKERS SO MATH-CHALLENGED?
It is little wonder that this fascist regime opposes education.

400 million dollars to Musk for "armored" Cyber trucks. So almost half of the savings going Musk.

 

[Derec]

WHY ARE TRUMPSUCKERS SO MATH-CHALLENGED?

Not just Trump suckers.

It is little wonder that this fascist regime opposes education.

State of education in this country, from K-12 to universities, is abysmal. Especially when it comes to things like math and critical thinking.

But I think both sides are at fault here. The right opposes the educational establishment, but the educational establishment itself is more concerned about inserting left-wing politics into education rather than having a high quality education in this country. If it was only the right wing that is the problem, it would have been much easier to combat. But both sides are using education for their own political goals.

 

[laughing dog]

WHY ARE TRUMPSUCKERS SO MATH-CHALLENGED?

Not just Trump suckers.

It is little wonder that this fascist regime opposes education.

State of education in this country, from K-12 to universities, is abysmal. Especially when it comes to things like math and critical thinking.

But I think both sides are at fault here. The right opposes the educational establishment, but the educational establishment itself is more concerned about inserting left-wing politics into education rather than having a high quality education in this country. If it was only the right wing that is the problem, it would have been much easier to combat. But both sides are using education for their own political goals.

Why do Trump apologists resort to whataboutisms?

 

[Spacetime Inhabitant]

He is in charge of DODE so what he has discovered is about the best source you can get.

He is also in charge of Twitter and said that it needed a total rewrite. He was right there, looking at it and declared the code was shit. He was asked to identify what part of the stack was junk. He was right there....the expert....the smartest man in the world. Listen to his short clip and listen to him explain a simple question of "what is wrong with it".

Trump has already said he will be taking this to Congress if necessary. Unlike the Democrats, Musk is being transparent.

It is necessary, and it hasn't been referred to Congress by Trump. Musk has no legitimate authority approved by Congress, and his transparency is that of a murky swamp. When legitimate government is restored to USA there will be investigations of Musk's activities by Senate committees and Musk will face charges for breaking the law and for engaging in subversive activities. He will go to prison and then be deported to South Africa.

 

[ZiprHead]

He is in charge of DODE so what he has discovered is about the best source you can get.

He is also in charge of Twitter and said that it needed a total rewrite. He was right there, looking at it and declared the code was shit. He was asked to identify what part of the stack was junk. He was right there....the expert....the smartest man in the world. Listen to his short clip and listen to him explain a simple question of "what is wrong with it".

Trump has already said he will be taking this to Congress if necessary. Unlike the Democrats, Musk is being transparent.

Why would Musk need to go to congress to get approval to rewrite code for X???

 

[Spacetime Inhabitant]

WHY ARE TRUMPSUCKERS SO MATH-CHALLENGED?

Not just Trump suckers.

It is little wonder that this fascist regime opposes education.

State of education in this country, from K-12 to universities, is abysmal. Especially when it comes to things like math and critical thinking.

But I think both sides are at fault here. The right opposes the educational establishment, but the educational establishment itself is more concerned about inserting left-wing politics into education rather than having a high quality education in this country. If it was only the right wing that is the problem, it would have been much easier to combat. But both sides are using education for their own political goals.

Considering the educational establishment is mainly controlled by the right-wing, and the left has no establishment power as is a fringe movement this seems unrealistic. The left in as far as it has any influence and views is mainly concerned in making education be basically conservative in that they want basics of actual science and humanities taught, not politically and religiously inspired and motivated things like 'creation science", compulsory prayers, ten commandments, and Bible studies (which will backfire BTW), and right-wing ideologies. Plus the right also want to ban any books and viewpoints that they don't like and set back American education to the Stone Age.

 

[ZiprHead]

Overall Musk and his team have been finding significant fraud and waste though.

Cite?

I would cite all the X posts Muck has made (which is substantial) but that wouldn't satisfy you. It would not satisfy you because Rachal Madow didnt say it.

But if you really want to know all the ridiculous amount of fraud that has already been discovered just read what Musk has said on X. He is in charge of DODE so what he has discovered is about the best source you can get.

Do you make a distinction between the terms "fraud" and "waste"?

For example, here's a list from a recent doge twitter post:

US taxpayer dollars were going to be spent on the following items, all which have been cancelled:
- $10M for "Mozambique voluntary medical male circumcision"
- $9.7M for UC Berkeley to develop "a cohort of Cambodian youth with enterprise driven skills"
- $2.3M for "strengthening independent voices in Cambodia"
- $32M to the Prague Civil Society Centre
- $40M for "gender equality and women empowerment hub"
- $14M for "improving public procurement" in Serbia
- $486M to the “Consortium for Elections and Political Process Strengthening,” including $22M for "inclusive and participatory political process" in Moldova and $21M for voter turnout in India
- $29M to "strenghening political landscape in Bangladesh"
- $20M for "fiscal federalism" in Nepal
- $19M for "biodiversity conversation" in Nepal
- $1.5M for "voter confidence" in Liberia
- $14M for "social cohesion" in Mali
- $2.5M for "inclusive democracies in Southern Africa"
- $47M for "improving learning outcomes in Asia"
- $2M to develop "sustainable recycling models" to "increase socio-economic cohesion among marginalized communities of Kosovo Roma, Ashkali, and Egypt"

These may be considered 'wasteful' to you and other Trump supporters, but are they fraud? Were these outlays not what was intended by the departments and/or Congress?? What is technically fraudulent about these?

Can you point to a specific example of FRAUD? And we should expect that to be reported to the FBI right away, yes?

I would call this a listing of porn corruption. It is an utter and total embarrassment of our Congress.

And here is how I would handle this if I were Trump. I would first enlist someone like McConnel who is learned with the parlor tricks of congress and then I would go to the American people on X, Truth Social, and Joe Rogan. I would say "Do you want to get rid of inflation or do you want to spend money on this shit?" "Do you want government to borrow money for your health care or do you want to borrow money for this shit?" "Do you want better infrastructure for America or do you want this shit?"

And then I would let congress vote on an omni-bus bill to REMOVE spending on all of your list of corruption. And I would advertise and mock whoever did not vote for getting rid of this.

If an uninformed layman like myself can think of a solution like this, you can bet Musk and/or Trump will know what to do. Musk has the brains and Trump has the experience in hardened corruption to be the first to undo what Congress has farted out on the American people.

Have you also considered that it could also just be untrue? Musk is proving to be almost as much a liar as Trump.

Big swings, big misses: DOGE struggles to back up its outsized claims

Elon Musk and President Donald Trump continue to tout their cost-cutting and fraud-finding efforts, but high-profile claims aren't holding up to scrutiny.

www.nbcnews.com

Elon Musk’s cost-cutting and fraud-finding apparatus, the Department of Government Efficiency, came out swinging in recent days.

The result? Two stunning strikeouts.


A series of announcements by DOGE as well as claims by Musk and President Donald Trump about the agency’s efforts have crumbled under scrutiny even as they’re broadly repeated by conservative pundits, sympathetic media and the White House.

Two of the most notable claims — around Social Security fraud and $8 billion savings found in a Department of Homeland Security contract — have been debunked. Meanwhile, Trump’s agenda is set to add to the federal government’s deficit well in excess of what DOGE is cutting.

“It’s amateur hour in their federal government,” said Martin O’Malley, the former Maryland governor who ran the Social Security Administration under President Joe Biden. “There’s unelected people that are being given powers to go through and rummage through our personal data for reasons that nobody can quite figure out yet. It’s not for efficiency.”

Cutting government waste and hunting for fraud are perennially popular topics for politicians across the political spectrum. Federal agencies each have their own internal watchdogs — known as inspectors general — meant to hunt for misuse of taxpayer dollars. More than a dozen of them have been fired by the Trump administration.

 

[barbos]

100% on that list is election meddling.

So what exactly do they mark with purple ink in Mozambique?

I am gad you agreed that the rest of the list is election meddling.

The goal of the soft power money distribution is to groom opposition, which can be used later.
Just ask drug dealers or mafia.
Money are always have strings attached, even if you don't see it now.

 

[ZiprHead]

100% on that list is election meddling.

So what exactly do they mark with purple ink in Mozambique?

I am gad you agreed that the rest of the list is election meddling.

The goal of the soft power money distribution is to groom opposition, which can be used later.
Just ask drug dealers or mafia.
Money are always have strings attached, even if you don't see it now.

So all those bomb threats that were traced back to Russia on election day were harmless???

 

[barbos]

100% on that list is election meddling.

So what exactly do they mark with purple ink in Mozambique?

I am gad you agreed that the rest of the list is election meddling.

The goal of the soft power money distribution is to groom opposition, which can be used later.
Just ask drug dealers or mafia.
Money are always have strings attached, even if you don't see it now.

So all those bomb threats that were traced back to Russia on election day were harmless???

They were not traced back to Russia.
And what bomb threat?

 

[ZiprHead]

100% on that list is election meddling.

So what exactly do they mark with purple ink in Mozambique?

I am gad you agreed that the rest of the list is election meddling.

The goal of the soft power money distribution is to groom opposition, which can be used later.
Just ask drug dealers or mafia.
Money are always have strings attached, even if you don't see it now.

So all those bomb threats that were traced back to Russia on election day were harmless???

They were not traced back to Russia.
And what bomb threat?

Election Day bomb threats overwhelmingly targeted Democrat-leaning counties

It's still not clear who was behind the wave of threats.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[barbos]

100% on that list is election meddling.

So what exactly do they mark with purple ink in Mozambique?

I am gad you agreed that the rest of the list is election meddling.

The goal of the soft power money distribution is to groom opposition, which can be used later.
Just ask drug dealers or mafia.
Money are always have strings attached, even if you don't see it now.

So all those bomb threats that were traced back to Russia on election day were harmless???

They were not traced back to Russia.
And what bomb threat?

Election Day bomb threats overwhelmingly targeted Democrat-leaning counties

It's still not clear who was behind the wave of threats.

www.nbcnews.com

Not this shit again.

The FBI said in an emailed statement Tuesday that “many” of the threats “appear to originate from Russian email domains.”

Another AlfabankGate or romanian Tik-Tok-Gate?

 

[TV and credit cards]

But I think both sides are at fault here. The right opposes the educational establishment, but the educational establishment itself is more concerned about inserting left-wing politics into education rather than having a high quality education in this country. If it was only the right wing that is the problem, it would have been much easier to combat. But both sides are using education for their own political goals.

I think the right thinks public school is for teaching the basics with an emphasis on what jobs the country needs to fill. Full stop. The left thought it would be a good idea to also develop children's emotional intelligence: empathy, self-control, communication skills, etc. So right-wing media latched onto some of the more questionable teachings of the left and presented it in the worst light possible.

 

[ZiprHead]

100% on that list is election meddling.

So what exactly do they mark with purple ink in Mozambique?

I am gad you agreed that the rest of the list is election meddling.

The goal of the soft power money distribution is to groom opposition, which can be used later.
Just ask drug dealers or mafia.
Money are always have strings attached, even if you don't see it now.

So all those bomb threats that were traced back to Russia on election day were harmless???

They were not traced back to Russia.
And what bomb threat?

Election Day bomb threats overwhelmingly targeted Democrat-leaning counties

It's still not clear who was behind the wave of threats.

www.nbcnews.com

Not this shit again.

The FBI said in an emailed statement Tuesday that “many” of the threats “appear to originate from Russian email domains.”

Another AlfabankGate or romanian Tik-Tok-Gate?

Struggle on, brother. Struggle on.

 

[barbos]

100% on that list is election meddling.

So what exactly do they mark with purple ink in Mozambique?

I am gad you agreed that the rest of the list is election meddling.

The goal of the soft power money distribution is to groom opposition, which can be used later.
Just ask drug dealers or mafia.
Money are always have strings attached, even if you don't see it now.

So all those bomb threats that were traced back to Russia on election day were harmless???

They were not traced back to Russia.
And what bomb threat?

Election Day bomb threats overwhelmingly targeted Democrat-leaning counties

It's still not clear who was behind the wave of threats.

www.nbcnews.com

Not this shit again.

The FBI said in an emailed statement Tuesday that “many” of the threats “appear to originate from Russian email domains.”

Another AlfabankGate or romanian Tik-Tok-Gate?

Struggle on, brother. Struggle on.

It's you who struggle with basic thought processes.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Why do Trump apologists resort to whataboutisms?

I was on another forum discussing politics and I was criticizing Trump when a responder brought up Obama. When I said that wasn’t relevant, he freaked out.

 

[Elixir]

Why do Trump apologists resort to whataboutisms?

I was on another forum discussing politics and I was criticizing Trump when a responder brought up Obama. When I said that wasn’t relevant, he freaked out.

S.O.P.
Most trumpsuckers don’t have a thought in their heads that wasn’t put there by their Orange Jesus. Obama is the cause of all evil that can’t be tied to Nancy or Joe.

 

[Swammerdami]

I would call this a listing of porn corruption. It is an utter and total embarrassment of our Congress.

And here is how I would handle this if I were Trump. I would first enlist someone like McConnel who is learned with the parlor tricks of congress and then I would go to the American people on X, Truth Social, and Joe Rogan. ...

Hi RVonse. Obviously I disagree with almost every word in your post. No, "disagree" was too weak of a word. My mind boggles and pities you for your total confusion. But I will comment only on choice of media for informing "the American people." X, Truth and Rogan. I guess you have no interest in informing "libtards" or anyone but the most deluded Trump fans?

BTW, I'm surprised you commend Mitch McConnell. Did you not know he was one of only three Repub Senators to vote No on Hegseth?

@RVonse -- I know Stephen Colbert isn't your cuppa tea -- I guess you prefer to get your news from the likes of Sean Hannity, Joe Rogan, Vladimir Putin, and Marjorie Taylor-Greene -- but watch this video for a more rational take on the frenzied firings by your heroes.

It's funny -- more than can be said for Musk&Co -- but will provide you with an order of magnitude more information about the mass firings than you'll get from your "fake news" sources.

Double dare you to watch it!

 

[KCFlyer]

Why would Musk need to go to congress to get approval to rewrite code for X???

IT's an example of Musk...the smartest man in the world..exposing that he doesn't know what the fuck he is doing. In this case he took a company valued at $19 billion down to a value or $670 million. He's bringing his wealth of knowledge into the government....another venture he doesn't know shit about. Bottom line, he did all that shit at twittr, but couldn't answer the simple question of "what's wrong wtih the code".

 

[Swammerdami]

I don't see mention here of two recent news items:

A) Trump and Musk are going to Fort Knox to see if there's any gold there. Rand Paul approves. They organized just such a junket just a few years ago; Mnuchin went with his wife; Paul sat it out.

What will Trump and Musk actually do? Count the bullion bars? What's the simplest test to see if the bars are plated tungsten?

My son-in-sin said Trump was planning to dump the gold on the world market (but Google doesn't seem to know about this). I'm sure Putin and Xi would approve of that! (At the current market price, FedRes and Treasury gold is worth several hundred Gigadollars. Not enough to finance a big tax cut for the super-rich, but plenty to sharply degrade the credibility of FedRes, the world's largest bank.)

B) Trump and Musk plan to give $5000 to every American household. That's a lot of money but I can see some ways to reduce the cost:

• Every state with high tax revenue should be required to pay half the $5000 cost for its residents.
• Single-parent households should be excluded.
• Only households with exactly two adults, one male, one female, are eligible. Musk already has the data to check this.
• Household with jihadist surnames ("Omar", "Al-Khalili" etc.) should be excluded.
• Non-citizen households should be excluded.
• Households with gov't employees or otherwise already suckling on the gov't teat should be excluded.
• "Households" that don't actually own houses could be excluded.

Great fun!

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Speaking of Musk's control of Treasury data, for how many hours or days did he have "God" authority? What could his team of hackers accomplish during that time? Copy it all to Tesla's data center? Install root-kits or back-doors?