Derec
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Same as what Bush did to Kerry? A crudité plate is the new swiss cheese on a Philly cheese steak ...To do what John Fetterman is doing to Mehmet Oz? Yes.
Same as what Bush did to Kerry? A crudité plate is the new swiss cheese on a Philly cheese steak ...To do what John Fetterman is doing to Mehmet Oz? Yes.
Not gonna happen. AOC has more sense (I think) than to run in 2024 and Trump may run, but will not be the nominee. For one, I do not think he will be fit enough to withstand the pace of a presidential campaign. Right now I would go with DeSantis as most likely single canidate. Same lane as Trump, but 30 years his junior.I want to see Trump vs AOC.
So you think it is ok for a female politician to mercilessly taunt a male politician about his genitalia or other physical attributes?I want to see her taunt him mercilessly [...] for his tiny mushroom dick, his hair (all eight for them),
Well, AOC is plenty ignorant herself. On matters of economics (despite her degree), energy, foreign policy ...his low IQ, his semi-literacy, his ignorance…
Even if she was, she needs a stepping stone from the House. Some statewide office would be best. And even then, she'd be handicapped by being from California.ETA: Katie Porter would be the best President IMO. But that kind of stuff doesn’t much matter any more.
If Biden decides to run, he will be the nominee. If there is a strong challenger, that will really hurt Biden in the general. Remember Reagan challenging Ford or Ted Kennedy challenging Carter? Both failed, but both also doomed their opponent in the general election.None of the moderates will be willing to run against Biden, none of the progressives have a chance, and Biden's signalling is clear as day, so I don't see much point in speculating about alternative candidates.
Even if Trump is not convicted, I do not see him being a nominee in 2024. US presidential campaigns are grueling, and long (campaigns would really get going in Spring/Summer 2023) and I do not think he is fit enough to do it again. A contrast between him and other candidates in their 40s and 50s would be stark, much starker than in 2016.The "other side" is in a similar situation. We will be offered no novel choices in 2024, unless Biden and/or Trump fall off a cliff or get thrown in jail before then.
Now, do you believe in the one big song?I know that some people drink Pepsi and some people drink Coke, but as the wacky morning DJ says, democracy's a joke.
Trumpers certainly do see him that way.*slow blink*The older I get, the more skeptical I am of the Great Man Theory. It's not about the person, it's about the team they can bring to the table.
I'm sorry I know this is a complete aside, but... there are people alive who actually think the great man theory is... even remotely viable?
I can't even wrap my head around that, heh.
At least for now, AOC is most valuable as a kind of gadfly—she can push the party towards more progressive stands. I think that’s her role and it’s a very valuable one.I like AOC and am glad that she's in my party. However, she isn't a coalition builder. I just don't think that a charismatic candidate without coalition ability can win in the democratic party (that is possible in the republican party BTW). D's are just too large of a tent, too many diverse opinions, too easily offended. I really like Stacey Abrahms. She is very charismatic. But seems to be coalition builder for sure. If she can win governorship in Georgia, she could win any national office.I want to see Trump vs AOC.
I want to see her taunt him mercilessly for his failures, his cowardly unwillingness to debate with rules, for his criminal career, for his tiny mushroom dick, his hair (all eight for them), his low IQ, his semi-literacy, his ignorance…
I could see several hour long standup routines that would contain less repetition than any three minute segment of Trump’s schtick.
ETA: Katie Porter would be the best President IMO. But that kind of stuff doesn’t much matter any more.
I hope that Trump is charged and convicted. I hope that he does not run because of, we’ll he’s Trump, but as you mention, he’s too old, and he’s not particularly healthy or fit for his age—quite the opposite. But I thought the same in 2016. I’ve seen a recent ranking in NYT, I believe and they actually rank Don Jr. as a potential candidate.If Biden decides to run, he will be the nominee. If there is a strong challenger, that will really hurt Biden in the general. Remember Reagan challenging Ford or Ted Kennedy challenging Carter? Both failed, but both also doomed their opponent in the general election.None of the moderates will be willing to run against Biden, none of the progressives have a chance, and Biden's signalling is clear as day, so I don't see much point in speculating about alternative candidates.
The problem is that, at his age, even if he wants to run again, something might happen to prevent him.
He would be almost 82 by the election, and a lot of things can happen health-wise. So, I do not think there is much harm in speculation at this point.
Even if Trump is not convicted, I do not see him being a nominee in 2024. US presidential campaigns are grueling, and long (campaigns would really get going in Spring/Summer 2023) and I do not think he is fit enough to do it again. A contrast between him and other candidates in their 40s and 50s would be stark, much starker than in 2016.The "other side" is in a similar situation. We will be offered no novel choices in 2024, unless Biden and/or Trump fall off a cliff or get thrown in jail before then.
The campaign would be grueling for Biden as well, no question, but much shorter if there is no contested primary. And I do think that Biden is, despite being four years or so older, quite a bit fitter.
Now, do you believe in the one big song?I know that some people drink Pepsi and some people drink Coke, but as the wacky morning DJ says, democracy's a joke.
Will Biden's handlers allow him to run in 2024?
Who runs depend on party preferences and savvy. Preferences are political leanings. Savvy is understanding of underlying political motives versus electability fears.
Democrats are what I call a mob party, left leaning government service influenced, issue group issue oriented capturing most of what remains after the white capitalistic believers cooped and dominated by Republicans.
Both parties are moderate or slightly right of center mostly as residue of the last political struggle of the nineteen-thirties where the imprint of Communism vs Nazism movements drove us far closer to agrarian roots.
My current perspective is democrats are slightly collectivist but fearful of Communist lumping. Republicans are the current racist white minority showing strong hints of nationalism.
No. They aren't collectivists in the Russia, US Roosevelt, traditions. They are clearly racist, Isolationist, ultra-capitalist. They don't practice theocracy. Rather the mouth segregationist theocracy in the name of white superiority ala KKK.My current perspective is democrats are slightly collectivist but fearful of Communist lumping. Republicans are the current racist white minority showing strong hints of nationalism.
Collectivist? Bwahahaha! You mean GOP creeping theocracy isn't "collectivist"?
How clueless Pete Buttigieg seemed to her. But to me, PB's NH trip seems like preparation for a run for President.What's she talking about?
Yeah, I'm not following it too.Clueless of what?
Because of what such a trip seems like on the surface. Why this odd interest in New Hampshire? Iowa?Yeah, I'm not following it too.Clueless of what?