Erase men from your lives: this week in feminism

[Metaphor]

Women, erase men from your lives! Political lesbianism was tried and failed in the 1970s, but everything old is new again!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...calls-women-eliminate-men-lives-new-book.html

A lesbian activist has urged women to 'eliminate' men from their minds and lives in a controversial new book that claims to provide the ultimate solution to female emancipation.


Paris city Councillor Alice Coffin, has revealed in her debut book, Lesbian Genius, that she doesn't listen to music, read books, or watch films made by men and her partner Yuri also only consumes things that have been produced by women.

How strange that she inhabits buildings built by men, rides on roads built by men, lives in the fifth French republic established by men, consumes electricity generated by men, publishes her work on inventions created by men, and has a city councillor salary paid for by male taxpayers.

(One wonders how she treats her male coworkers).

Reflecting on feminism and lesbianism in the years since French feminist Simone de Beauvoir penned The Second Sex, she claimed that the only way for women to be truly emancipated is to eradicate men from their lives completely.


'It's not enough to help one another, we have to erase them. Erase them from our minds, from our pictures, from our representation. I don't read books by men anymore, I don't watch their movies, I don't listen to their music', she writes.

How sadly impoverishing for her.

Alice admits she imagined herself as a boy when she was younger,

Who'da thunk it?

but now believes being a lesbian is a 'greater' achievement.

I remember the precise moment I decided to be gay. I didn't feel the same sense of achievement as Coffin, but now I realise it's because becoming a lesbian is an achievement, and I didn't become a lesbian.

'Some worse than others. Let them go. They sow misfortune, we want joy. Being a lesbian is a party, they won't spoil it.'

Ladies, if only you wish hard enough and concentrate long enough, you too can will yourself to the 'great achievement' of lesbianism! You could join the Coffin party! Men have even tried to make it easier for you by producing a lot of lesbian porn.

Now of course this week in feminism wouldn't be complete with internecine feminist scuffles, would it!

Despite the book receiving a flood of five stars reviews on Amazon as readers gush that the author makes points they haven't heard before, fellow French feminists have blasted Alice's call to action.


Marlène Schiappa who is France's former minister for gender equality, accused the author of advocating for 'a form of apartheid,' reports The Economist.

Meanwhile, author Agnès Poirier argues Alice's new French feminism would be dubbed 'ridiculous' by Simone de Beauvoir.

Simone who published The Second Sex in 1949, was bisexual and flouted convention to give French women a voice.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Well, this is definitely worth worrying about! Radical that is feminist has radical ideas on feminism.

 

[ZiprHead]

At least Europe didn't die again.

 

[Metaphor]

Well, this is definitely worth worrying about! Radical that is feminist has radical ideas on feminism.

I'm not worried about it. In fact, I hope more feminists make their whackadoodle fringe musings publically known. It will bring disrepute to mainstream feminism.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You can find loons on every side.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Wake me up when these crazy radicals start massacres like incels have.

 

[Jarhyn]

Yes, Metaphor, this feminist has gone over the line. It doesn't speak to all of or even much of feminism in the way you think it does.

 

[spikepipsqueak]

Well done, Metaphor.

You have unearthed another silly thing that someone has said.

Though as silly as it is, for the reasons that you point out, maybe women should be consciously discriminating in favour of other women, just for 50 years or so, as a way of correcting the economic imbalances that you see no reason to acknowledge.

 

[Rhea]

I hope more feminists make their whackadoodle fringe musings publically known. It will bring disrepute to mainstream feminism.

Straw-man crusade.

Someone needs a new hobby.

 

[Metaphor]

Well done, Metaphor.

You have unearthed another silly thing that someone has said.

Though as silly as it is, for the reasons that you point out, maybe women should be consciously discriminating in favour of other women, just for 50 years or so, as a way of correcting the economic imbalances that you see no reason to acknowledge.

Women and men already do it. Universities already do it. Corporations already do it. Discriminating in favour of women is not a radical idea. It's so mainstream people proudly admit to doing it.

It's a bit closer to radical to exclude all male forms of creation from your life, but if you hatred boner for men is that hard, it isn't any skin off my nose. She's simply impoverishing herself.

 

[spikepipsqueak]

Yes. She is.

Her loss, but not worthy of comment since, at worst, her stated opinion can only make people think; consider the issues. She is not in a position to enforce her directive.

But if women made a point of spending their dollars on the products of other women it would go some way to reversing the historical deficit of respect for women's art and ideas and the historical relative poverty of women's pockets.

You are statistically correct about the roads'n'bridges stuff, but your argument ignores the women who did participate in the tech and scientific fields and who had to fight hard, sometimes without formal education, to do it and whose work product was marginalised and engulfed by the male establishment, for their pains.

 

[Metaphor]

Yes. She is.

Her loss, but not worthy of comment since, at worst, her stated opinion can only make people think; consider the issues. She is not in a position to enforce her directive.

Coffin is a city councillor, so she has political power. Perhaps there isn't a radical lesbian feminist way to collect household garbage, so maybe her hatred doesn't matter. But I'd be concerned if I were a male colleague in her workplace. I would hope she would act professionally towards them, but then I haven't worked with any published misandrists.

But if women made a point of spending their dollars on the products of other women it would go some way to reversing the historical deficit of respect for women's art and ideas and the historical relative poverty of women's pockets.

You are statistically correct about the roads'n'bridges stuff, but your argument ignores the women who did participate in the tech and scientific fields and who had to fight hard, sometimes without formal education, to do it and whose work product was marginalised and engulfed by the male establishment, for their pains.

Women can do whatever they want. If they want to discriminate against men with their spending habits, let them.

Though I have to say, I find Coffin's misandry ironic from someone who appears to have had gender dysphoria as a girl. It's the first time I have seen a clear case of 'if you can't join 'em, beat 'em'!

 

[Derec]

Wake me up when these crazy radicals start massacres like incels have.

Have you heard of Valerie Solanas and her "Society for Cutting up Men"?
Violent radical feminism has existed since the 1960s at the very least.

There have also been less overtly ideological women who have murdered men, often their domestic partners, and often have gotten away with it. Remember Mary Winkler?

Why do murderers have to be involuntarily celibate to matter? Especially since it's virtually impossible for any woman to be involuntarily celibate - in any bar there exists at least one man willing to take any woman home at closing time.

 

[barbos]

I guess everybody can be crazy, even lesbians.

 

[Politesse]

Well, this is definitely worth worrying about! Radical that is feminist has radical ideas on feminism.

I'm not worried about it. In fact, I hope more feminists make their whackadoodle fringe musings publically known. It will bring disrepute to mainstream feminism.

Why would you hope for that? Just sort of general misogyny?

 

[Metaphor]

Well, this is definitely worth worrying about! Radical that is feminist has radical ideas on feminism.

I'm not worried about it. In fact, I hope more feminists make their whackadoodle fringe musings publically known. It will bring disrepute to mainstream feminism.

Why would you hope for that? Just sort of general misogyny?

No. What have I said that is misogynistic?

 

[Keith&Co.]

Well, this is definitely worth worrying about! Radical that is feminist has radical ideas on feminism.

I'm not worried about it. In fact, I hope more feminists make their whackadoodle fringe musings publically known. It will bring disrepute to mainstream feminism.

Why would you hope for that? Just sort of general misogyny?

Pretty much. Obviously he feels all feminism is wrong, and the louder the whackadoodles get, the more people like Meta can pretend all the ideas are whack, to marginalize them.

It seems he has no logical retort to mainstream feminism and must plagiarize the fringes, to have women fight women.

 

[Metaphor]

Why would you hope for that? Just sort of general misogyny?

Pretty much. Obviously he feels all feminism is wrong, and the louder the whackadoodles get, the more people like Meta can pretend all the ideas are whack, to marginalize them.

It seems he has no logical retort to mainstream feminism and must plagiarize the fringes, to have women fight women.

So, neither you nor Politesse can discover any sort of evidence that I'm a misogynist.

Feminism and feminists may have some ideas that are not false, but the same can be said of any religion.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Why would you hope for that? Just sort of general misogyny?

Pretty much. Obviously he feels all feminism is wrong, and the louder the whackadoodles get, the more people like Meta can pretend all the ideas are whack, to marginalize them.

It seems he has no logical retort to mainstream feminism and must plagiarize the fringes, to have women fight women.

Yes, broad brushing is fun! You can make all positions of a political or social spectrum mute if you can just keep pointing out the extreme points of view on the spectrum!

 

[ruby sparks]

Well done, Metaphor.

You have unearthed another silly thing that someone has said.

Though as silly as it is, for the reasons that you point out, maybe women should be consciously discriminating in favour of other women, just for 50 years or so, as a way of correcting the economic imbalances that you see no reason to acknowledge.

I'll give you 35 years. That's my best offer.

(not that it's actually up to me, obviously).