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If by moral principles you mean open slather for one and all like Merkel did in 2015, Europe will be submitting voluntary suicide long before 2100.

Moral principles: If you cause some problem by launching a terrorist attack of Iraq you are responsible for all the refugee problems that arise from it. If you create a powerful ISIS you are responsible for everything it does. If refugees are fleeing the war zones you started or the destroyed nations you created you are responsible for them.

But of course a moral nation never would have attacked the Iraqi people in the first place.

Could you please stop diluting every damn strong word you have in your vocabulary. It doesn't add emphasis. It only makes you look hysterical.

Unprovoked attacks where you bomb and kill and torture to change a government are acts of terrorism.

The fact that immoral people don't see this as terrorism is a serious problem.

They are the people that allow such things to happen.
 
Could you please stop diluting every damn strong word you have in your vocabulary. It doesn't add emphasis. It only makes you look hysterical.

Unprovoked attacks where you bomb and kill and torture to change a government are acts of terrorism.

The fact that immoral people don't see this as terrorism is a serious problem.

They are the people that allow such things to happen.

You really have it in for the US and it's allies don't you?
 
Could you please stop diluting every damn strong word you have in your vocabulary. It doesn't add emphasis. It only makes you look hysterical.

Unprovoked attacks where you bomb and kill and torture to change a government are acts of terrorism.

The fact that immoral people don't see this as terrorism is a serious problem.

They are the people that allow such things to happen.

You really have it in for the US and it's allies don't you?

I am talking about the actions of people, scum like Rumsfeld, Cheney and GW. Huge war criminals deserving to be hung.

They are not the US.

You have no basic human morality if you justify the US terrorist attack of Iraq in 2003.
 
Could you please stop diluting every damn strong word you have in your vocabulary. It doesn't add emphasis. It only makes you look hysterical.

Unprovoked attacks where you bomb and kill and torture to change a government are acts of terrorism.

The fact that immoral people don't see this as terrorism is a serious problem.

They are the people that allow such things to happen.

You really have it in for the US and it's allies don't you?

I think I've deciphered him. Any armed conflict he disagrees with is terrorism. Anything he likes is Catalonian POUM freedom fighters. Each combatant always fall in one of those two categories.
 
More than likely the invasion of Iraq was avoidable. https://www.vox.com/2016/2/16/11022104/iraq-war-neoconservatives But to blame all the islamic terrorist attacks throughout the world on that single episode is pure unadulterated fantasy.

The Islamic violence is part and parcel of this backward, vile supremacist ideology.

I also think it was unavoidable. The Baath party is literally Arabic national socialism. It's exactly the same kind of political party as the Nazis and Saddam was strikingly similar to Hitler. Complete with ethnic cleaning of Kurds. The problem with national socialism is that it's fundamentally utopian, and when things... inevitably... turn out less than ideal... they've got to find scapegoats. That's when starting wars come in handy. National socialism is an ideological war machine that feeds itself. He'd just have kept going if left alone. I also think that getting rid of him was unavoidable.

Yes, it's a shame that USA dropped the ball and mismanaged the occupation. I still say it would have been worse not to invade at all. You've got to break some eggs to make an omelette.

I'm not a nationalist. I think all of humanity have a shared responsibility to help those in need. Violently if necessary. If a country is a dictatorship, that's a free pass for any democratic nation to invade, at any time. If the goal is to make it democratic. Just my opinion.
 
More than likely the invasion of Iraq was avoidable. https://www.vox.com/2016/2/16/11022104/iraq-war-neoconservatives But to blame all the islamic terrorist attacks throughout the world on that single episode is pure unadulterated fantasy.

The Islamic violence is part and parcel of this backward, vile supremacist ideology.

What total nonsense.

The terrorist attack of Iraq was not in any way necessary.

To even claim such bullshit is pure ignorance.

And thinking Islam is in any way more or less harmful than Christianity is also pure ignorance.
 
That wasn't the issue. The question is whether they work.

Morality is always paramount.

It always works.

Those that claim we should abandon morality are always the problem.

A faith-based assertion that your principles work doesn't make them work.

The real world isn't a utopia.

It is an appeal to reason.

Reasonable people think morality is paramount.

Unreasonable people justify terrorist attacks then torture of innocents.
 
A faith-based assertion that your principles work doesn't make them work.

The real world isn't a utopia.

It is an appeal to reason.

Reasonable people think morality is paramount.

Unreasonable people justify terrorist attacks then torture of innocents.

You're still making the same mistake of thinking that because something is moral by your definition that it will work well. You aren't even trying to rebut this.
 
More than likely the invasion of Iraq was avoidable. https://www.vox.com/2016/2/16/11022104/iraq-war-neoconservatives But to blame all the islamic terrorist attacks throughout the world on that single episode is pure unadulterated fantasy.

The Islamic violence is part and parcel of this backward, vile supremacist ideology.

I also think it was unavoidable. The Baath party is literally Arabic national socialism. It's exactly the same kind of political party as the Nazis and Saddam was strikingly similar to Hitler. Complete with ethnic cleaning of Kurds. The problem with national socialism is that it's fundamentally utopian, and when things... inevitably... turn out less than ideal... they've got to find scapegoats. That's when starting wars come in handy. National socialism is an ideological war machine that feeds itself. He'd just have kept going if left alone. I also think that getting rid of him was unavoidable.

Yes, it's a shame that USA dropped the ball and mismanaged the occupation. I still say it would have been worse not to invade at all. You've got to break some eggs to make an omelette.

I'm not a nationalist. I think all of humanity have a shared responsibility to help those in need. Violently if necessary. If a country is a dictatorship, that's a free pass for any democratic nation to invade, at any time. If the goal is to make it democratic. Just my opinion.

Totally agree, and I think Venezuela's government should be eliminated now before it's too late, although as far as I'm aware, it's not killing it's own people as Saddam was.
 
More than likely the invasion of Iraq was avoidable. https://www.vox.com/2016/2/16/11022104/iraq-war-neoconservatives But to blame all the islamic terrorist attacks throughout the world on that single episode is pure unadulterated fantasy.

The Islamic violence is part and parcel of this backward, vile supremacist ideology.

What total nonsense.

The terrorist attack of Iraq was not in any way necessary.

To even claim such bullshit is pure ignorance.

And thinking Islam is in any way more or less harmful than Christianity is also pure ignorance.

Forgetting for the moment that Christianity has an old [violent] old testament and a peaceful, turn the other cheek new testament. Comparing islam and xtianity is like comparing onions with tomatoes!

https://stephenblanton.com/compare-...R03SEHIAGFYhsJ88vBrGHduPxExhqGPRoCokcQAvD_BwE
 
Totally agree, and I think Venezuela's government should be eliminated now before it's too late, although as far as I'm aware, it's not killing it's own people as Saddam was.

Not as many of it's own people.
 
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