FOX guest hits peak sell-out

[marc]

FOX has A long history of using sell-out guests. Bringing on a black guy to blame issues on ‘black culture’, a woman to speak against women’s rights, a ‘liberal’ to denounce liberal policies, etc..

well this takes the cake. Bruce Jenner, and yes, I’m calling him Bruce because I feel he has lost his right to be considered a trans-woman. Well Bruce was brought on to speak about a case where sorority members were objecting to the acceptance of a trans-woman into the sorority. He said the trans-woman is really a man, and a pervert, then talked about protecting women’s sports. All the anti-trans talking points you want.

 

[Patooka]

Bruce Jenner, and yes, I’m calling him Bruce because I feel he has lost his right to be considered a trans-woman.

I've gotta be honest, I'm not sure that's the right take to have. You can call Jenner a vile piece of shit and not have their gender be part of why they are a vile piece of shit. I'm not trans, not really comfortable with the concept but I admit that's because of my ignorance but I don't think transgender is something that should be measured on merit. For equality to be a thing and actually matter, some transgender people are going to be pieces of shit. Jenner ticks that box. So just call Jenner a vile piece of shit. Being trans I don't think is something you can give or take away.

 

[barbos]

So when trans talks about women's right to not compete against biological men in women's sport, it's a sellout.
Got it.

 

[Rhea]

Does Jenner have some reason to believe this person is actually not trans?

 

[marc]

Bruce Jenner, and yes, I’m calling him Bruce because I feel he has lost his right to be considered a trans-woman.

I've gotta be honest, I'm not sure that's the right take to have. You can call Jenner a vile piece of shit and not have their gender be part of why they are a vile piece of shit. I'm not trans, not really comfortable with the concept but I admit that's because of my ignorance but I don't think transgender is something that should be measured on merit. For equality to be a thing and actually matter, some transgender people are going to be pieces of shit. Jenner ticks that box. So just call Jenner a vile piece of shit. Being trans I don't think is something you can give or take away.

Yea, that might be a bit too far, but still feel Jenner deserves it. Been feeling this way for some time, this shit finally drove me to say it.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Hmm. Republican accusations are quite often admissions.

 

[WAB]

Bruce Jenner, and yes, I’m calling him Bruce because I feel he has lost his right to be considered a trans-woman.

I've gotta be honest, I'm not sure that's the right take to have.

+1

 

[Politesse]

Not sure whose rights you think you're protecting, if you think modeling retributive dead-naming is the best way to do it. Two wrongs do not cancel one another out.

 

[Jayjay]

First I ever heard of Jenner was this Mad Magazine parody:

Although, at the time, I think I wasn't sure if it was a real person or just a play on the name "Banner".

Then at some point heard he was a woman. And a reality tv personality. Don't really see why I should care what he thinks about anything.

... but he was a professional athlete, and is now a trans-woman. To me it seems that that makes him qualified to at least talk about the topic of trans-athletes. Regardless of what his opinions on the matter are.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I love how conservatives just get off on judging people especially those they don't know. Being trans doesn't give Jenner some sort of almighty authority on all things trans.

 

[scombrid]

So when trans talks about women's right to not compete against biological men in women's sport, it's a sellout.
Got it.

No. The vile piece of shit is claiming that a trans woman that is pledging a sorority is really a perverted sexually deviant male. The makes the fucker a sellout or perhaps it is an admission of Jenner’s true nature. If Jenner is claiming that a trans woman is really a sexually deviant male then perhaps that is Jenner’s personal trans experience being projected onto another. Or Jenner has self hate or Jenner is just grifting the conservatives like so many other people that find east marks in that demographic.

 

[scombrid]

Does Jenner have some reason to believe this person is actually not trans?

Right. Come on Caitlyn tell us how you came to that conclusion.

 

[Jarhyn]

Does Jenner have some reason to believe this person is actually not trans?

Right. Come on Caitlyn tell us how you came to that conclusion.

The thing is, I see no real difference between Caitlyn and a number of other folks among the women of the GOP.

She manages to put a convincingly feminine spin on "trashy dumbass from Jersey".

Before, she managed to put a convincingly masculine spin on it.

"Trashy dumbass from Jersey" is just a bad shade on anyone, regardless of where in "gender" they fall.

 

[thebeave]

FOX has A long history of using sell-out guests. Bringing on a black guy to blame issues on ‘black culture’, a woman to speak against women’s rights, a ‘liberal’ to denounce liberal policies, etc..

well this takes the cake. Bruce Jenner, and yes, I’m calling him Bruce because I feel he has lost his right to be considered a trans-woman. Well Bruce was brought on to speak about a case where sorority members were objecting to the acceptance of a trans-woman into the sorority. He said the trans-woman is really a man, and a pervert, then talked about protecting women’s sports. All the anti-trans talking points you want.

I think Bruce has a point about this trans woman (Artemis Langford) being a pervert. There are multiple sources describing his behavior at the sorority:

Who is Artemis Langford? Trans Woman Accused of Peeping in Sorority House

The Cowboy State Daily identified the transgender woman in the lawsuit as Artemis Langford, who made headlines in 2022 following the decision by the Kappa Kappa Gamma sisterhood to allow her to join.

The lawsuit, reportedly brought against the sorority, its council president and Langford, alleges this was done without respecting the organization's governing rules. The plaintiffs, who are anonymized, are said not to be seeking damages but want the court to void Langford's membership.

According to court documents obtained by Cowboy State Daily, Smith lives outside of the sorority house but would often be there to socialize. The lawsuit alleged that Smith, while watching members enter the house, "had an erection visible through his leggings" and on other occasions "had a pillow in his lap."

On one occasion, Smith reportedly watched another member, dressed only in a towel, go to take a shower on the house's private second floor and felt an "unsettling presence" before seeing Smith "watching her silently."

In another alleged incident, one woman changed her top without wearing a bra while not realizing Smith was in the room staring at her, and other women noted later that Smith had "his hands over his genitals" and has since "repeatedly asked about her romantic attachments."

The lawsuit reportedly claims that Smith has not undergone any treatment to appear more feminine, and had expressed a sexual interest in women. It further alleges that the induction vote regarding Smith used a Google poll, which required members to sign in, compromising the anonymity of their vote.

So, I'm with Bruce and the sorority sisters. This guy should not be welcome in that (or any) sorority. Unless you are going to claim that all the women in the sorority are just a bunch of fucking liars, in which case I say "Good luck with that" and show your receipts.

 

[TSwizzle]

So, I'm with Bruce and the sorority sisters. This guy should not be welcome in that (or any) sorority. Unless you are going to claim that all the women in the sorority are just a bunch of fucking liars, in which case I say "Good luck with that" and show your receipts.

These uppity women need to STFU know their place.

 

[TSwizzle]

It's bizarre;

Adidas is facing a boycott after it used a biologically male model with a hairy chest and bulging crotch to promote a women's swimsuit in its 'Pride 2023' collection. The sportswear brand has provoked fury for its 'mockery' of women over the advert for the £50 item which forms part of its campaign to 'uphold inclusive values'. South African designer Rich Mnisi is behind the recycled polyester outfit - which Adidas said was a 'celebration of self-expression, imagination and the unwavering belief that love unites, the collaboration explores fluidity, colour and pattern'

Daily Mail

 

[Rhea]

FOX has A long history of using sell-out guests. Bringing on a black guy to blame issues on ‘black culture’, a woman to speak against women’s rights, a ‘liberal’ to denounce liberal policies, etc..

well this takes the cake. Bruce Jenner, and yes, I’m calling him Bruce because I feel he has lost his right to be considered a trans-woman. Well Bruce was brought on to speak about a case where sorority members were objecting to the acceptance of a trans-woman into the sorority. He said the trans-woman is really a man, and a pervert, then talked about protecting women’s sports. All the anti-trans talking points you want.

I think Bruce has a point about this trans woman (Artemis Langford) being a pervert. There are multiple sources describing his behavior at the sorority:

Who is Artemis Langford? Trans Woman Accused of Peeping in Sorority House

The Cowboy State Daily identified the transgender woman in the lawsuit as Artemis Langford, who made headlines in 2022 following the decision by the Kappa Kappa Gamma sisterhood to allow her to join.

The lawsuit, reportedly brought against the sorority, its council president and Langford, alleges this was done without respecting the organization's governing rules. The plaintiffs, who are anonymized, are said not to be seeking damages but want the court to void Langford's membership.

According to court documents obtained by Cowboy State Daily, Smith lives outside of the sorority house but would often be there to socialize. The lawsuit alleged that Smith, while watching members enter the house, "had an erection visible through his leggings" and on other occasions "had a pillow in his lap."

On one occasion, Smith reportedly watched another member, dressed only in a towel, go to take a shower on the house's private second floor and felt an "unsettling presence" before seeing Smith "watching her silently."

In another alleged incident, one woman changed her top without wearing a bra while not realizing Smith was in the room staring at her, and other women noted later that Smith had "his hands over his genitals" and has since "repeatedly asked about her romantic attachments."

The lawsuit reportedly claims that Smith has not undergone any treatment to appear more feminine, and had expressed a sexual interest in women. It further alleges that the induction vote regarding Smith used a Google poll, which required members to sign in, compromising the anonymity of their vote.

So, I'm with Bruce and the sorority sisters. This guy should not be welcome in that (or any) sorority. Unless you are going to claim that all the women in the sorority are just a bunch of fucking liars, in which case I say "Good luck with that" and show your receipts.

All of this suggests a good reason to pause and make sure this person is actually a trans woman. If they have taken no steps to medically or surgically transition, then it seems appropriate for the sorority to object.

 

[Toni]

OK, just to throw a wild card in this: What about lesbians? Should sororities welcome lesbians into the sorority house? How do/should sororities (and fraternities) deal with members who are not hetereosexual?

The other thing here to consider is that we're talking about a young adult who most likely is still figuring out how to handle...erections in certain situations, regardless of whether or not they are trans and do/do not intend to keep their genitals as they are.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

OK, just to throw a wild card in this: What about lesbians? Should sororities welcome lesbians into the sorority house?

If memory serves, half of all porn is based solely on this premise.

How do/should sororities (and fraternities) deal with members who are not hetereosexual?

Or left-handed?

The other thing here to consider is that we're talking about a young adult who most likely is still figuring out how to handle...erections in certain situations, regardless of whether or not they are trans and do/do not intend to keep their genitals as they are.

As far as I'm concerned I have no idea who this person is. And I'm sick and tired of people judging people they don't know ANYTHING about. It is all the alt-right does anymore. How much did they pay Jenner to to go on the air and bloviate?

 

[TomC]

If memory serves, half of all porn is based solely on this premise.

You watch different gay porno than I do.
Tom