Freddie Gray dies a week after being injured during arrest

[Derec]

Hey, what does Freddie Gray and Derec have in common? Don't worry, you can guess it pretty easily.

Other than the species and gender, not bloody much.

Politicized? A guy died in police custody. Most people would be somewhat upset by this.

Yes, she politicized it. She let politics and appeasing the mob guide her charging decisions.
She even used the #BLM battle cry "no justice no peace" in her "amazing" press conference.
Marilyn Mosby’s amazing press conference

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Politicized? A guy died in police custody. Most people would be somewhat upset by this.

Yes, she politicized it. She let politics and appeasing the mob guide her charging decisions.
She even used the #BLM battle cry "no justice no peace" in her "amazing" press conference.
Marilyn Mosby’s amazing press conference

Appeasing the mob? A man died in police custody. Everyone should be demanding due process!

 

[laughing dog]

Yes, she politicized it. She let politics and appeasing the mob guide her charging decisions.
She even used the #BLM battle cry "no justice no peace" in her "amazing" press conference.
Marilyn Mosby’s amazing press conference

Appeasing the mob? A man died in police custody. Everyone should be demanding due process!

Oh no, that was no man but a "thug" who got what he deserved.

 

[Trausti]

Yes, she politicized it. She let politics and appeasing the mob guide her charging decisions.
She even used the #BLM battle cry "no justice no peace" in her "amazing" press conference.
Marilyn Mosby’s amazing press conference

Appeasing the mob? A man died in police custody. Everyone should be demanding due process!

Wouldn't due process entail that the chief prosecutor wait until an investigation is complete before marching ahead with charges? The failure of these four trials so far relates back to Mosby's impatience and publicity seeking. Most prosecutors have a >90% conviction rate. This is because prosecutors are very selective of the cases they take to trial. If there is little evidence supporting a charge, a prosecutor won't waste the time or expense. Prosecutors have a high burden to meet; hence, why it's good practice to wait until an investigation is complete. In this instance, Mosby did not wait until the police investigation had finished. The 0 for 4 is a result of that decision. It seems at this point that a competent prosecutor would not have filed charges at all. But Mosby, it appears, looked at this as a launching pad for higher office. We should always be wary when a prosecutor grandstands and dismisses the absence of incriminating evidence. See Mike Nifong.

 

[Derec]

Everyone should be demanding due process!

True. But due process would mean charging decisions were made based on evidence, not public sentiment.

 

[ksen]

Hey, what does Freddie Gray and Derec have in common? Don't worry, you can guess it pretty easily.

Other than the species and gender, not bloody much.

He says with an audible sigh of relief.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Everyone should be demanding due process!

True. But

No! No fucking buts! So many don't think any trial, any due process should be involved. People like you were pretty much gleeful the guy died.

due process would mean charging decisions were made based on evidence, not public sentiment.

Pretty much dying in police custody is substantial evidence.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Other than the species and gender, not bloody much.

He says with an audible sigh of relief.

There something else, but why linger on that.

 

[Trausti]

True. But

No! No fucking buts! So many don't think any trial, any due process should be involved. People like you were pretty much gleeful the guy died.

You're aware that due process is meant to protect the accused? Your comment demonstrates why it's so important. Everyone should have the same due process rights, regardless of who they are or what crime they're accused of. No matter how unpopular, vile, or despised, the accused has the same due process rights as you.

 

[laughing dog]

You're aware that due process is meant to protect the accused?
Your comment demonstrates why it's so important. Everyone should have the same due process rights, regardless of who they are or what crime they're accused of. No matter how unpopular, vile, or despised, the accused has the same due process rights as you.

I agree. So why are you condoning the abrogation of Freddie Gray's due process rights?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

No! No fucking buts! So many don't think any trial, any due process should be involved. People like you were pretty much gleeful the guy died.

You're aware that due process is meant to protect the accused? Your comment demonstrates why it's so important. Everyone should have the same due process rights, regardless of who they are or what crime they're accused of. No matter how unpopular, vile, or despised, the accused has the same due process rights as you.

Umm... is this post trying to kill people by making irony meters explode en masse? Haven't you noticed that the officers have received their rights of due process, where as the guy that died did not?

 

[coloradoatheist]

You're aware that due process is meant to protect the accused? Your comment demonstrates why it's so important. Everyone should have the same due process rights, regardless of who they are or what crime they're accused of. No matter how unpopular, vile, or despised, the accused has the same due process rights as you.

Umm... is this post trying to kill people by making irony meters explode en masse? Haven't you noticed that the officers have received their rights of due process, where as the guy that died did not?

There is no due process for someone who dies. There is no guaranteed trial otherwise there would be a trial every time someone died at a hospice.

But I disagree with the others, the officers did get their due process. There is nothing to say in that that the state must follow a specific thing when decided if they are going to process charges or what type of charges. I think the DA bent towards political pressure instead of trying to find the right charges if any.

 

[Trausti]

You're aware that due process is meant to protect the accused?
Your comment demonstrates why it's so important. Everyone should have the same due process rights, regardless of who they are or what crime they're accused of. No matter how unpopular, vile, or despised, the accused has the same due process rights as you.

I agree. So why are you condoning the abrogation of Freddie Gray's due process rights?

That doesn't make any sense. At the point of arrest the due process was to be read his Miranda rights. Was he not read those? If he was, well, he got his due process.

 

[laughing dog]

I agree. So why are you condoning the abrogation of Freddie Gray's due process rights?

That doesn't make any sense. At the point of arrest the due process was to be read his Miranda rights. Was he not read those? If he was, well, he got his due process.

Due process protects citizens from arbitrary denial of life, liberty, or property by the Government outside the sanction of law.
Freddie Gray died while in custody of the gov't either due in part or entirely to the negligence of the gov't. That looks like arbitrary denial of life outside the sanction of law. Hence it is a violation of due process.

 

[Trausti]

That doesn't make any sense. At the point of arrest the due process was to be read his Miranda rights. Was he not read those? If he was, well, he got his due process.

Due process protects citizens from arbitrary denial of life, liberty, or property by the Government outside the sanction of law.
Freddie Gray died while in custody of the gov't either due in part or entirely to the negligence of the gov't. That looks like arbitrary denial of life outside the sanction of law. Hence it is a violation of due process.

Good grief. If you've evidence that he was convicted of a crime without assistance of counsel and summarily executed, don't keep it to yourself. Call up Mosby, she desperately needs a lifeline.

 

[laughing dog]

Good grief. If you've evidence that he was convicted of a crime without assistance of counsel and summarily executed, don't keep it to yourself. Call up Mosby, she desperately needs a lifeline.

According to you, there are no due process right between the Miranda warning and conviction. Got it.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Stay Klassy, Derec.

He's simply pointing out that the prosecution was political, not based on decent evidence.

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Hey, what does Freddie Gray and Derec have in common? Don't worry, you can guess it pretty easily.

What's wrong with making fun of the inept prosecutor who politicized this case.
Especially since she was hyped into the stratosphere when she first announced the charges.

Politicized? A guy died in police custody. Most people would be somewhat upset by this.

Politicized. You've simply decided the cops were responsible despite the lack of evidence of this.

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Yes, she politicized it. She let politics and appeasing the mob guide her charging decisions.
She even used the #BLM battle cry "no justice no peace" in her "amazing" press conference.
Marilyn Mosby’s amazing press conference

Appeasing the mob? A man died in police custody. Everyone should be demanding due process!

But you're not after due process, you're after the conviction of those you have decreed to be guilty.

And prosecuting someone you know you have basically no chance of convicting is not due process. It's abuse.

 

[coloradoatheist]

And even not following due process isn't considered a crime. There are numerous cases where due process wasn't followed, ie an invalid search warrant but the cops/judges/prosecuters weren't charged with anything for that action.

 

[Trausti]

Good grief. If you've evidence that he was convicted of a crime without assistance of counsel and summarily executed, don't keep it to yourself. Call up Mosby, she desperately needs a lifeline.

According to you, there are no due process right between the Miranda warning and conviction. Got it.

If you feel he was denied due process, then what? There is no evidence that the police officers killed him. None. Zero. Ziltch. Nada. It's obvious you're trying to twist the meaning of due process for hyperbole, but nothing has been put forth showing that any right owed to him by law was denied.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Hey, what does Freddie Gray and Derec have in common? Don't worry, you can guess it pretty easily.

What's wrong with making fun of the inept prosecutor who politicized this case.
Especially since she was hyped into the stratosphere when she first announced the charges.

Politicized? A guy died in police custody. Most people would be somewhat upset by this.

Politicized. You've simply decided the cops were responsible despite the lack of evidence of this.

He died in POLICE custody! It is a reasonable conclusion to think they had some role in it.

Yes, she politicized it. She let politics and appeasing the mob guide her charging decisions.
She even used the #BLM battle cry "no justice no peace" in her "amazing" press conference.
Marilyn Mosby’s amazing press conference

Appeasing the mob? A man died in police custody. Everyone should be demanding due process!

But you're not after due process, you're after the conviction of those you have decreed to be guilty.

Why is it impossible for you to argue against people's actual statements.

And prosecuting someone you know you have basically no chance of convicting is not due process. It's abuse.

A person is dead! Not injured, not slightly wounded. For fuck sakes, you sound like the Black Knight. When someone dies, the standards of trying to get to the bottom of things gets more in depth.