Merged Gaza just launched an unprovoked attack on Israel

[DrZoidberg]

Dr Z is not paying attention to what each side is saying.

You mean all the disingenuous political plays being made?

Trump hyped his p[proposal as an agreement. Israel would withdraw, Hamas would disarm, and Gaza would a be administered by an international group led by .... wiai for it. .. Trump.

So what would you say the chances of this just being more Trump bullshit?

Netiquette later said Israel will not withdraw. For the Palestinins no Palestinian state run by Palestinians is a non starter.

Right now its run by Iran. So there’s that

Meanwhile Israel continues to colonize he West Bank.

Ok, reality check. In 1948 Jordan took the west bank and expelled all its Jews and sent them to Israel.

Israel took the west bank in 1667 in a defensive war. Didn’t expell the Palestinians. Didn’t give the Jews who had earlier been expelled their land back.

A gesture of good will. After this public opinion went back to hating Jews again.

At this point, why wouldn't they just settle the west bank with Jews. They used to live there. It can be argued putting it back to how it was prior to 1948.

Expending the settlements is not to expell any Palestinians

The extreme antisemitic filter that is being applied is... I was going to say bizarre. But its not. The west has a strong tradition of hating Jews. Because of the Bible. Why leftist secularists keep going with the antisemitism is so strange

The war may have been triggered bin part by hostage taking, but it is not about the aesthetes.

How do you explain all the peace between the wars, all of which were started by the Arabs?

That's an inconvenient fact

It is about Israeli Zionism and controlling all land they think was Israel 2000 years ago. Netanyahu said pu8bhlcaly they have a right to the land and will do whatever is in their own interest.

No, its not. Stop paroting racist propaganda. Its just such bullshit

The only thing that will stop the war is the USA cutting off arms supplies. Not likely. Obama increased military aid followed by Biden and now Trump.

Which will guarantee all the Jews being murdered. I don't think you quite understand what Israel is up against

Israel has launched several invasions and offensives into the Gaza Strip throughout its modern history, most recently and prominently following the October 7, 2023, attack by Hamas. Before that, the last major conflict was in 2014.

Gaza–Israel conflict - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Israel walled of Gaza and the West Bank. The coast is blockaded.

None of these were unprovoked. Rockets have continuously rained on Israel since 1948? Do think Israel should just keep taking it? Is that your position on this?

 

[steve_bank]

Netanyahu has said repeatedly in public the goal us the elimination of Hamas.

Hostages are a political talking point. Netanyahu is a skilled politician and propagandist. He knows how to play to American Christian conservatives. Israel is now part of Evangelical end times prophesies.

He is manipulating Trump..

In the end Gaza will be colonized.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Netanyahu has said repeatedly in public the goal us the elimination of Hamas.

Hostages are a political talking point. Netanyahu is a skilled politician and propagandist. He knows how to play to American Christian conservatives. Israel is now part of Evangelical end times prophesies.

He is manipulating Trump..

In the end Gaza will be colonized.

Of course Hamas needs to be eliminated. That’s a given.

Israel isn't a colonial power. Why are you using the term "colonized"?

Its the term antisemitic leftists are using in their propaganda to make Israel seem like colonisers. Native Americans aren't colonisers in America either. It would be weird and unseemly to accuse them of that. Don't you think?