Merged Gaza just launched an unprovoked attack on Israel

[DrZoidberg]

Nevermind the total lack of effort and sheer indifference of Netanyahu's regime in retrieving the hostages taken on Oct 7 three fucking years ago. That they prioritise genocide, collective punishment and other fun war crimes over that is telling in and of itself.

What are you talking about? Are you upset with Netanyahu for not paying the ransom Hamas wanted? If they did that, that's a guarantee there will be another attack as soon as Hamas can.

I can't see how the Netanyahu regime could possibly have done this any faster? So I really don't understand what you are talking about?

 

[laughing dog]

The people who have a problem with Israels actions don't seem to be able to come up with any kind of alternative realistic plan that will disarm Hamas for good.

The bombing and invasion did not disarm Hamas for good, but it did kill tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians. Is that the realistic part of that plan?

If you can't get what you want you'll have to settle for what you can get. Politics is the art of the possible. Its not an excercise in utopianism

So, you are saying that since Israel could not get the disarmament of Hamas they settled for killing thousands of civilians? That’s a political victory?

That's something antisemites keep saying. These people are racist scum and can be ignored IMHO. I don't care what racists think about anything.

That’s something racists keep saying as they signal fail to convince others.

 

[Shadowy Man]

The people who have a problem with Israels actions don't seem to be able to come up with any kind of alternative realistic plan that will disarm Hamas for good.

The bombing and invasion did not disarm Hamas for good, but it did kill tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians. Is that the realistic part of that plan?

If you can't get what you want you'll have to settle for what you can get. Politics is the art of the possible. Its not an excercise in utopianism

So, you are saying that since Israel could not get the disarmament of Hamas they settled for killing thousands of civilians? That’s a political victory?

That's something antisemites keep saying. These people are racist scum and can be ignored IMHO. I don't care what racists think about anything.

Well, Based on this particular exchange of posts it appears that this is what you are saying. So perhaps you want to clarify your meaning? Especially this part: “If you can't get what you want you'll have to settle for what you can get. Politics is the art of the possible. Its not an excercise [sic] in utopianism”

 

[DrZoidberg]

The people who have a problem with Israels actions don't seem to be able to come up with any kind of alternative realistic plan that will disarm Hamas for good.

The bombing and invasion did not disarm Hamas for good, but it did kill tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians. Is that the realistic part of that plan?

If you can't get what you want you'll have to settle for what you can get. Politics is the art of the possible. Its not an excercise in utopianism

So, you are saying that since Israel could not get the disarmament of Hamas they settled for killing thousands of civilians? That’s a political victory?

That's something antisemites keep saying. These people are racist scum and can be ignored IMHO. I don't care what racists think about anything.

Well, Based on this particular exchange of posts it appears that this is what you are saying. So perhaps you want to clarify your meaning? Especially this part: “If you can't get what you want you'll have to settle for what you can get. Politics is the art of the possible. Its not an excercise [sic] in utopianism”

We've been over this a million times. Hamas is an existential threat to Israel. Hamas hides behind their own civilians. Israels only viable option was and is to attack. So that's what they're doing. Hamas is responsible for the Palestinian deaths.

With that context if you blame Israel for the death of the Palestinian civilians I'm going to think you're an antisemite.

Holding Jews up to impossibly high standards while letting Hamas' 7/10 attack slide is just double standards, and racism, I think.

Gospel called my defence of Jews "white knighting". That may be. But I will continue calling out racism on this forum. I think its the decent thing to do. I also think its important. Racism festers if decent people stand by and do nothing. So I am doing my little bit. Sorry, not sorry.

 

[laughing dog]

The people who have a problem with Israels actions don't seem to be able to come up with any kind of alternative realistic plan that will disarm Hamas for good.

The bombing and invasion did not disarm Hamas for good, but it did kill tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians. Is that the realistic part of that plan?

If you can't get what you want you'll have to settle for what you can get. Politics is the art of the possible. Its not an excercise in utopianism

So, you are saying that since Israel could not get the disarmament of Hamas they settled for killing thousands of civilians? That’s a political victory?

That's something antisemites keep saying. These people are racist scum and can be ignored IMHO. I don't care what racists think about anything.

Well, Based on this particular exchange of posts it appears that this is what you are saying. So perhaps you want to clarify your meaning? Especially this part: “If you can't get what you want you'll have to settle for what you can get. Politics is the art of the possible. Its not an excercise [sic] in utopianism”

We've been over this a million times. Hamas is an existential threat to Israel. Hamas hides behind their own civilians. Israels only viable option was and is to attack.

True. But indiscriminate bombing is not the only option.

To use “they attacked us, so we had no ithet viable choice but to slaughter tens of thousands of civilians in an impossible goal” is racist. Calling out racists is a the decent thing to do.