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Sgt Daniel O'Neil - a/k/a Lonewolf

For months, he's been known only as "Lonewolf" — the name he signed on a series of anonymous letters alleging a veteran police lieutenant ordered officers in the St. Louis County Police Department's South County precinct to target African-Americans at shopping destinations there.

On Tuesday, Sgt. Daniel O'Neil revealed his name publicly in a complaint filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission — the first step toward filing a discrimination lawsuit against the police department, which O'Neil says has targeted him ever since learning he wrote the letters.

Those letters triggered an internal investigation, and Lt. Patrick "Rick" Hayes was fired in May.
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http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_3f52ec44-f9ab-5b06-b1f9-868cd63fc9ba.html
 
RavenSky said:
This is how a cop properly assesses risk/threat and refrains from escalating (though his dry sarcasm in the face of the verbal abuse he was getting from the driver was cracking me up)

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LnyNgXIx8[/YOUTUBE]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LnyNgXIx8

Notice how he doesn't punch the guy in the stomach, or throw him to the ground by his hair. Amazing isn't it!
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Notice how there is a dash cam on him the entire time. Cameras have a way of making cops good.
 
NobleSavage said:
Notice how there is a dash cam on him the entire time. Cameras have a way of making cops good.
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Agree. I think it was Athena in another thread posted a link to the results in one municipality wherein they required "cop cams" on every police officer. Both incidences of police-civilian violence dropped dramatically, as did reports of police brutality. I seriously doubt actual criminals were deterred from violence by the "cop cams" but the cops apparently were.

I personally think ALL police (except perhaps undercover cops) should be required to wear them.
 
Jason Harvestdancer said:
As I stated in the bad cop thread, I have a very specific test of whether or not a cop is a good cop. There are many nice and civil cops that aren't good cops.

A good cop arrests bad cops. A cop that doesn't arrest bad cops is an accomplice and therefore a bad cop.

If there are 10 cops present, and one of them freaks out and starts beating an innocent person and then arrests the innocent person for resisting arrest, the other 9 have an opportunity to prove themselves. If they do nothing, they are bad cops. If they arrest the one that is freaking out they are good cops.

It is nice to see a nice cop helping out a little duck, but that doesn't mean the nice cop is a good cop.
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Yes. The "Blue Code of Silence" is very strong with cops. If you are friends with the cops they can get you out of a lot of shit. I've had various cop friends. One was a NARC and he gave me his business card (which looked like a swat team in action) and he basically bragged that that was my get out of jail card.

Where I live now is very peaceful and suburban and there is virtually no crime. However, there are more cops than I've ever seen in my life. I can't go to the store and back without passing three of them. They all have nice, new, and expensive SUVs. They all have a shotgun mounted between the driver's seat and the passenger seat. Their main job, as far as I can tell, is to give out speeding tickets to raise revenue. Nobody in the city seems to mind getting tickets because you take it to a lawyer and the lawyer has a chat with the prosecuting attorney (now they just do it with a letter - no need to go to court). The prosecuting attorney chalks it up to a non-moving violation. The attorney gets his/her cut and the city gets their cut. It's very annoying because when I try and drive the speed limit I constantly have soccer moms riding my tail enraged that I'm doing the speed limit.
 
RavenSky said:
NobleSavage said:
Notice how there is a dash cam on him the entire time. Cameras have a way of making cops good.
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Agree. I think it was Athena in another thread posted a link to the results in one municipality wherein they required "cop cams" on every police officer. Both incidences of police-civilian violence dropped dramatically, as did reports of police brutality. I seriously doubt actual criminals were deterred from violence by the "cop cams" but the cops apparently were.

I personally think ALL police (except perhaps undercover cops) should be required to wear them.
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I posted that stat. Maybe Athena did as well. https://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liberty/police-body-mounted-cameras-right-policies-place-win-all
 
NobleSavage said:
RavenSky said:
Agree. I think it was Athena in another thread posted a link to the results in one municipality wherein they required "cop cams" on every police officer. Both incidences of police-civilian violence dropped dramatically, as did reports of police brutality. I seriously doubt actual criminals were deterred from violence by the "cop cams" but the cops apparently were.

I personally think ALL police (except perhaps undercover cops) should be required to wear them.
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I posted that stat. Maybe Athena did as well. https://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liberty/police-body-mounted-cameras-right-policies-place-win-all
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I didn't remember who - but I did remember the post. That was excellent information, thank you.
 
Personally, I have never had a problem with the R.C.M.P. but then again, I give them no reason to be overly concerned by my activities. One fellow even helped to change the tire on my truck at -35F one day. That was about 20 years ago. Nowadays, they would probably ask if I had BCAA, but I might be mistaken. Twice, I have been pulled over for traveling a bit quicker than the posted speed. Once, I got a written warning and on the most recent occasion, it was just a verbal caution. I was barely over the limit, must have been a slow night. Generally, I am a fairly law-abiding citizen and the fact that my father-in-law is a former commander for the entire Yukon means that I bloody well better conduct myself professionally and not be an embarrassment to the family or the force. No special privileges in our clan. We be hardest on our own because we cannot claim ignorance of the law. :thinking:
 
The cops are there to do a job. You know full well when you have been pulled over that you have done something wrong. So listen to them, think it threw and cop it on the chin.

I have been pulled over twice - once for not stopping at a stop sign and once for doing 80km/hr in a road works area. Both times, as soon as I was told what I was done, I copped it sweet. No point arguing it, only causes more trouble.

I have fought tickets once though. My car was stolen and the night it was stolen it was caught on a red light camera and a speed camera. However, has I had reported it stolen and had the police record number to prove it, I was absolved of all guilt.
 
gmbteach said:
The cops are there to do a job. You know full well when you have been pulled over that you have done something wrong. So listen to them, think it threw and cop it on the chin.
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This isn't correct. I used to work at a casino at night. I was stopped a few times after work for bogus reasons because they were fishing for drunk drivers. Once they approached my window and saw my work uniform they had some flimsy excuse question like "I saw you weaving that's why I stopped you, are you sleepy working so late?" Sometimes they were polite other times agitated they didn't get a DUI bust.
 
Nexus said:
gmbteach said:
The cops are there to do a job. You know full well when you have been pulled over that you have done something wrong. So listen to them, think it threw and cop it on the chin.
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This isn't correct. I used to work at a casino at night. I was stopped a few times after work for bogus reasons because they were fishing for drunk drivers. Once they approached my window and saw my work uniform they had some flimsy excuse question like "I saw you weaving that's why I stopped you, are you sleepy working so late?" Sometimes they were polite other times agitated they didn't get a DUI bust.
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Agreed. No offense but I'd suspect your experiences in Oz are much different from that of, say, Tan Nguyen over in the asset forfeiture beltway http://www.forbes.com/sites/institu...-texas-seize-millions-by-policing-for-profit/
 
Here we have an actual story about an actual good cop, and how he was mistreated by his department and fellow officers.

Why "Good Cops" Stay Silent: The Persecution of Officer Adam Basford

Basford, an Air Force veteran who regarded himself to be a peace officer rather than a law enforcer, had patrolled a violent neighborhood riven with gang-related violence. On many occasions prior to August 18, he had called for backup, only to find -- as he did that night -- that no help was forthcoming. This wasn’t just because Basford’s fellow officers were afraid, but because he had violated the unwritten but binding rules of police solidarity by speaking out against routine misconduct and abuse within the department.
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Regina Tasca

Definitely the Protect part...

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132146/Good-cop-bad-cop-Moment-female-police-officer-went-help-young-man-beaten-fellow-cops--faces-losing-HER-job.html
 
I found two stories about good cops. These guys deserve praise for their actions.

“Good Cop” Punished for Stepping in to Stop Fellow Cops From Beating a Mentally Ill Man

There is a common idiom that goes like this, “Not all cops are bad.” Our reply to this phrase is usually along the lines of this, if not all cops are bad, why don’t the good ones prevent the bad ones from causing so much harm?

Well here is an example of just that. Some jackboot cops were beating up on a mentally ill man, when a ‘good cop’ stepped in. If there were more cops like Officer Tasca, we may not be witnessing the exponential expansion of such a violent police state.

But this type of police officer is not common, which is why Officer Regina Tasca was punished for this intervention.
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Good Cops Cross ‘Thin Blue Line’ in Florida, Turn on Bad Cops

With all of the negative attention given to police officers lately, the public is left wondering if there are any good cops left. The bad apples seem to have spoiled the cart, but in Broward County several cops stepped forward to break the thin blue line in order to turn in one of their own.

For Broward County Deputies, that day was today. Former Broward County Deputy Eduardo Mesa is accused of stealing from a man that had been killed by a train in January. Mesa is alleged to have stolen the victim’s prescription pills.

Detective A. reportedly saw the amber bottles of prescription pills in the victim’s possession, but the pills were never logged into evidence. Detective A. did some preliminary checking hoping that the pills had been innocently misplaced, then contacted Detective B, who obtained a search warrant for Mesa’s marked patrol vehicle. Most of the pill bottles, still bearing the victim’s name, were reportedly discovered. A warrant was issued for Mesa’s arrest.
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It's sad, in a way. Detective A is a modern hero, and his name is withheld in order to protect him from his fellow officers.
 
Thomas II said:
How about this dancing cop? :D

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Damn he was really good!

I think if we could have a LOT more of this type of thing, and far less from the "bad cop" thread, the police would find themselves respected parts of the community again.
 
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