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House passes bill to loosen banking regulations

The government did NOT REQUIRE banks to make bad loans or to completely throw out their lending qualifications.

The CRA basically required the banks to throw out their lending qualifications. "Qualified" is nebulous, "redlining" can be measured statistically. Faced with incompatible requirements the only safe choice is to obey the one that can be measured best.

By itself the losses would not have been that bad but when the Feds started being willing to buy such trash (because the banks were fighting against writing the trash in the first place) this opened the flood gates. Scumbags who were under no obligation to write trash wrote ever greater quantities of it and quickly passed it off. A small fire turned into a great blaze while the Republicans basked in supposed economic growth.
 
The CRA basically required the banks to throw out their lending qualifications. "Qualified" is nebulous, "redlining" can be measured statistically. Faced with incompatible requirements the only safe choice is to obey the one that can be measured best.

You've been shown that what you wrote above is bullshit numerous times. Why do you keep repeating it?
 
The government did NOT REQUIRE banks to make bad loans or to completely throw out their lending qualifications.

The CRA basically required the banks to throw out their lending qualifications. "Qualified" is nebulous, "redlining" can be measured statistically. Faced with incompatible requirements the only safe choice is to obey the one that can be measured best.

By itself the losses would not have been that bad but when the Feds started being willing to buy such trash (because the banks were fighting against writing the trash in the first place) this opened the flood gates. Scumbags who were under no obligation to write trash wrote ever greater quantities of it and quickly passed it off. A small fire turned into a great blaze while the Republicans basked in supposed economic growth.

I've worked at four different banks over the years. None of the banks that I've worked at specifically lowered their underwriting standards in distressed areas (or areas that were once redlined). Two of the banks that I worked for had excellent CRA ratings. They achieved these by increasing their marketing in distressed areas to find qualified borrowers, hosted community events such as how to improve your credit and etc. In short, they simply increased their focus in these areas.
 
I live in Lynnwood, not in Seattle proper. Median income here is lower... and my condo is over $400K. That's kind of the problem. Condos in Seattle are still unobtainium. Hell, living in Seattle for anyone not already wealthy is pretty much impossible without roommates. Lol, I know a married couple who shares an apartment with another married couple because neither couple can afford an apartment on their own. None of them are minimum wage, it's just that expensive to live there.
If the housing costs too much it is because there are people out there who are willing AND able to pay for it. Perhaps I am over simplifying, but other than the interest rate which is mostly set by the fed I don't see what the banks have to do with the high prices. There is obviously someone out there with the money who is able and willing to pay way too much for a house which is the reason the price is too high in the first place.

So ideally in a market driven economy here is what should happen. The people who are only making $50k a year should get the hell out of Seattle and move somewhere in the rust belt where they can pick up a cheap $75k house they can afford, and then have a good life. And then there should only be high earning people living in Seattle where the homes cost too much and only the elite and the foreign buyers can live there. Fuck Seattle because that land should only be for the already rich people and the foreign Chinese buyers. And then when all the lower earning people start moving out, and stop actually trying to buy homes they can't afford.... that is when the housing prices in Seattle might have a chance to fall again like they should. Or am I missing something here?
 
If the housing costs too much it is because there are people out there who are willing AND able to pay for it. Perhaps I am over simplifying, but other than the interest rate which is mostly set by the fed I don't see what the banks have to do with the high prices. There is obviously someone out there with the money who is able and willing to pay way too much for a house which is the reason the price is too high in the first place.
It's not necessarily the banks alone. I know I react a bit to the current standard of 20% downpayment being required, but it's not that by itself - it's the whole situation.

So ideally in a market driven economy here is what should happen. The people who are only making $50k a year should get the hell out of Seattle and move somewhere in the rust belt where they can pick up a cheap $75k house they can afford, and then have a good life. And then there should only be high earning people living in Seattle where the homes cost too much and only the elite and the foreign buyers can live there. Fuck Seattle because that land should only be for the already rich people and the foreign Chinese buyers. And then when all the lower earning people start moving out, and stop actually trying to buy homes they can't afford.... that is when the housing prices in Seattle might have a chance to fall again like they should. Or am I missing something here?
Generally, I think you're not too far off... except for a couple of things embedded in your assumptions. There simply aren't jobs in the rust belt... so the people who make $50K in the Seattle area *might* make $30K in the rust belt, assuming they can find a job at all. So when it's a choice of staying somewhere with a job, but deal with a crappy apartment and a long commute... versus move to someplace without a job... I'm not sure there's much of a choice available there.
 
If the housing costs too much it is because there are people out there who are willing AND able to pay for it. Perhaps I am over simplifying, but other than the interest rate which is mostly set by the fed I don't see what the banks have to do with the high prices. There is obviously someone out there with the money who is able and willing to pay way too much for a house which is the reason the price is too high in the first place.
It's not necessarily the banks alone. I know I react a bit to the current standard of 20% downpayment being required, but it's not that by itself - it's the whole situation.

So ideally in a market driven economy here is what should happen. The people who are only making $50k a year should get the hell out of Seattle and move somewhere in the rust belt where they can pick up a cheap $75k house they can afford, and then have a good life. And then there should only be high earning people living in Seattle where the homes cost too much and only the elite and the foreign buyers can live there. Fuck Seattle because that land should only be for the already rich people and the foreign Chinese buyers. And then when all the lower earning people start moving out, and stop actually trying to buy homes they can't afford.... that is when the housing prices in Seattle might have a chance to fall again like they should. Or am I missing something here?
Generally, I think you're not too far off... except for a couple of things embedded in your assumptions. There simply aren't jobs in the rust belt... so the people who make $50K in the Seattle area *might* make $30K in the rust belt, assuming they can find a job at all. So when it's a choice of staying somewhere with a job, but deal with a crappy apartment and a long commute... versus move to someplace without a job... I'm not sure there's much of a choice available there.

Actually you get an FHA loan with only 5% down. It's just that you need 20% down if you want to avoid PMI.
 
Actually you get an FHA loan with only 5% down. It's just that you need 20% down if you want to avoid PMI.
Oh. Thanks for the clarification. How much does PMI run, or at least how is it related to mortgage amounts?

Some typical values:

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