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How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

Which is mostly bullshit promoted by Russian propaganda.
Bullshit
Are you not bothered at all that this war has been going for more than 6 months now; 50,000 Russian soldiers have been killed or injured; 2,000 + Russian tanks have been destroyed; 219 Russian planes; 8 warships including the mighty Moskva; Nato has expanded greatly adding two countries that directly border against Russia; weapons continue to pour into Ukraine; and Europe is finding alternate power sources, cutting off Nord, all the gas infrastructure that Russia has invested in to sell to Europe is completely wasted. Putler is driving Russia into the ground. And you don't care?
 
Kupyansk is the next prize, a critical hub for Russia's ground lines of communications to Izyum. Hopefully it will be secured over the weekend.
Ukraine doesn't actually need to take Kupyansk (yet), just surrounding it or even getting to artillery range is enough to render it useless as a supply route. I think the next target is to cut off and surround Izyum.
Well that prediction didn't last long. It seems that both Kupyansk and Izyum have been liberated. Ukraine is having trouble keeping up with the pace Russian troops are withdrawing.
You mean occupied... after russians left.
Russian strategy is different from ukrainian, russian forces are averse to man power losses, for obvious reasons.
Ahhh. Why don't Russian soldiers just leave all of Ukraine! Then no more war. No more Russian losses. We can go back to drinking vodka!
 
Kupyansk is the next prize, a critical hub for Russia's ground lines of communications to Izyum. Hopefully it will be secured over the weekend.
Ukraine doesn't actually need to take Kupyansk (yet), just surrounding it or even getting to artillery range is enough to render it useless as a supply route. I think the next target is to cut off and surround Izyum.
Well that prediction didn't last long. It seems that both Kupyansk and Izyum have been liberated. Ukraine is having trouble keeping up with the pace Russian troops are withdrawing.
You mean occupied... after russians left.
Russian strategy is different from ukrainian, russian forces are averse to man power losses, for obvious reasons.
Ahhh. Why don't Russian soldiers just leave all of Ukraine! Then no more war. No more Russian losses. We can go back to drinking vodka!
Russia did not start this war, NATO did.
 
Next Thursday and Friday, SCO in Uzbekistan. Putin to meet with Xi Jinping. I expect Putin will be staring at his shoes the whole time.
Wish I could be a fly on a wall for that Xi meeting. I've always said that Putler won't seriously start negotiating with Ukraine until China starts pressuring Russia to find a peaceful solution.
 
Kupyansk is the next prize, a critical hub for Russia's ground lines of communications to Izyum. Hopefully it will be secured over the weekend.
Ukraine doesn't actually need to take Kupyansk (yet), just surrounding it or even getting to artillery range is enough to render it useless as a supply route. I think the next target is to cut off and surround Izyum.
Well that prediction didn't last long. It seems that both Kupyansk and Izyum have been liberated. Ukraine is having trouble keeping up with the pace Russian troops are withdrawing.
You mean occupied... after russians left.
Russian strategy is different from ukrainian, russian forces are averse to man power losses, for obvious reasons.
Ahhh. Why don't Russian soldiers just leave all of Ukraine! Then no more war. No more Russian losses. We can go back to drinking vodka!
Russia did not start this war, NATO did.
It dosn't matter who started it. We're not 5-year kids here. But the war won't stop until Russian soldiers return home. Russia isn't under threat. Noone will invade a country with nukes. But Ukraine is. Return home; war ends. End of story.
 
Next Thursday and Friday, SCO in Uzbekistan. Putin to meet with Xi Jinping. I expect Putin will be staring at his shoes the whole time.
Wish I could be a fly on a wall for that Xi meeting. I've always said that Putler won't seriously start negotiating with Ukraine until China starts pressuring Russia to find a peaceful solution.
And the only solution Ukraine is offering is, get the hell out of our country.
 
Yesterday
I don't know if this amounts to a hill of beans but at least they have the courage to speak out. Their grievances read like content right out of the Western news. I'm starting to think Barbos had it all wrong.

Insider article in its entirety said:
Municipal deputies for the Smolninskoye District in St. Petersburg plan to submit a petition to the State Duma (the Russian parliament) to charge Russian president Vladimir Putin with high treason for unleashing the war in Ukraine. Deputy Dmitry Palyuga announced the intention on Twitter.

According to Palyuga, “the majority of deputies in attendance supported the decision.” In conversation with The Insider, he specified that seven out of ten voted in favor of the initiative.

According to its sponsors, Putin’s actions since the beginning of the “special military operation” fall under Article 93 of the Russian Constitution, which stipulates for the president's impeachment based on charges of high treason or other serious crimes brought against them by the State Duma.

The president's decision to attack Ukraine is “detrimental to the security of Russia and its citizens”, the petition reads, because the Russian army is losing its fighting-fit units and its servicemen become disabled. The authors of the petition also point out that the withdrawal of foreign players from the Russian market and the “brain drain” accelerated by massive emigration are bound to leave a dent in “the Russian nation's economic wellbeing”. The deputies also underline that NATO is pushing its frontiers eastward, contrary to the announced goals of the special operation, while Ukraine is receiving state-of-the-art weapons.

“While the Russian president declared the demilitarization of Ukraine as one of his goals, we are witnessing the opposite happen. This is not to say that we stand in full support of the goals declared by President Putin, but even in his own terms, he is harming Russia's national security,” Palyuga explained to The Insider. “We want to let people know that there are deputies who are opposed to the current policy and who believe that Putin is harming Russia. We also want to let them know we are not afraid to speak out.”

Today
Police summons deputies who said Putin should be charged with treason.

Tomorrow
Job openings.


And now Moscow.

The Council of Deputies of Moscow's Lomonosovsky Municipal District has asked Russian President Vladimir Putin to resign. They said that since Putin's second term in office, “everything has gone wrong”: the GDP has not doubled, the minimum wage has not increased according to expectations, intelligent and hard-working people are leaving Russia en mass, and the promised stability is gone.

“Elections are approaching, and in a few days the composition of our Council will change. We have held our positions for five years and it is time to give them up to fresh people, with new ideas and strengths. Studies show that in countries with regular turnover of power, people on average live better and longer than in those where the leader leaves office feet first. You made good reforms during your first and part of your second term, but after that it all went wrong somehow. (...)
The rhetoric you and your subordinates have used for a long time is imbued with intolerance and aggression, which in the end has effectively sent our country back into the Cold War era. Russia is once again feared and hated, and we are once again threatening the world with nuclear weapons.
In view of the above, we ask that you resign from your post, since your views and your model of government are hopelessly outdated and hinder the development of Russia and its human potential.”
Earlier, a similar statement was made by municipal deputies from the Smolninskoye municipality of St. Petersburg. They plan to address the State Duma in the coming days with a proposal to charge Vladimir Putin with high treason because of the war in Ukraine.
 
Kupyansk is the next prize, a critical hub for Russia's ground lines of communications to Izyum. Hopefully it will be secured over the weekend.
Ukraine doesn't actually need to take Kupyansk (yet), just surrounding it or even getting to artillery range is enough to render it useless as a supply route. I think the next target is to cut off and surround Izyum.
Well that prediction didn't last long. It seems that both Kupyansk and Izyum have been liberated. Ukraine is having trouble keeping up with the pace Russian troops are withdrawing.
You mean occupied... after russians left.
Russian strategy is different from ukrainian, russian forces are averse to man power losses, for obvious reasons.
Ahhh. Why don't Russian soldiers just leave all of Ukraine! Then no more war. No more Russian losses. We can go back to drinking vodka!
Russia did not start this war, NATO did.
It dosn't matter who started it. We're not 5-year kids here. But the war won't stop until Russian soldiers return home. Russia isn't under threat. Noone will invade a country with nukes. But Ukraine is. Return home; war ends. End of story.
Invasion is not the only bad thing that NATO does.
And in this particular case, you armed and supported a regime (you installed) which proclaimed territorial claims to Russia. And I am not talking about Crimea.
 
Kupyansk is the next prize, a critical hub for Russia's ground lines of communications to Izyum. Hopefully it will be secured over the weekend.
Ukraine doesn't actually need to take Kupyansk (yet), just surrounding it or even getting to artillery range is enough to render it useless as a supply route. I think the next target is to cut off and surround Izyum.
Well that prediction didn't last long. It seems that both Kupyansk and Izyum have been liberated. Ukraine is having trouble keeping up with the pace Russian troops are withdrawing.
You mean occupied... after russians left.
Russian strategy is different from ukrainian, russian forces are averse to man power losses, for obvious reasons.
Ahhh. Why don't Russian soldiers just leave all of Ukraine! Then no more war. No more Russian losses. We can go back to drinking vodka!
Russia did not start this war, NATO did.
It dosn't matter who started it. We're not 5-year kids here. But the war won't stop until Russian soldiers return home. Russia isn't under threat. Noone will invade a country with nukes. But Ukraine is. Return home; war ends. End of story.
Invasion is not the only bad thing that NATO does.
And in this particular case, you armed and supported a regime (you installed) which proclaimed territorial claims to Russia. And I am not talking about Crimea.
Yes, those Nato guys are very mean. Very hostile. But the purpose of Nato is to simply stop Russian invasion in countries that are part of Nato. That's all. And to date, Russia has not invaded any Nato countries. Do you understand why so many countries near Russia want to join Nato? Maybe if you stopped invading your neighbors that neighboring countries would be friendlier to Russia?
 
Yes, those Nato guys are very mean. Very hostile. But the purpose of Nato is to simply stop Russian invasion in countries that are part of Nato.
Tell that to Yugoslavia.
And yes, purpose of NATO is to stop future Russian "invasion" by weakening Russia by invading it first. I am glad we agree.
 
Maybe if you stopped invading your neighbors that neighboring countries would be friendlier to Russia?
You first. Russia had friendly Ukraine. Then you came and overthrew their government and installed nazi and very unfriendly regime which started civil war in their own country and then with Russia. Now they are shelling nuclear plant with your weapons.
And your shitty media is not interested in that.


Before that, you did the same in Georgia.
 
Maybe if you stopped invading your neighbors that neighboring countries would be friendlier to Russia?
You first.
Do you think that invading other countries is good for your economy? Good for Russia? The difference between Russia and Nato: countries ask to join Nato; no-one wants to join with Russia.
Actually, Eastern Ukraine wants to join Russia. And Crimea too, wanted to join Russia and did so. The fact that some countries want to join NATO is irrelevant here.
They can want whatever they want. Russia will react to any threat.
And no, Ukraine did not want to join NATO. What happened was, you installed puppet regime and paid them to "want" to join NATO (remember Montenegro?)
These are the facts.
 
Yes, those Nato guys are very mean. Very hostile. But the purpose of Nato is to simply stop Russian invasion in countries that are part of Nato.
Tell that to Yugoslavia.
And yes, purpose of NATO is to stop future Russian "invasion" by weakening Russia by invading it first. I am glad we agree.

Intervention in the remains of Yugoslavia was to put an end to Serbian genocide. Russian mercenaries participated in that genocide also. Now genocide is back on the menu as Russia turns swaths of Ukraine into smoking rubble.
 
Intervention in the remains of Yugoslavia was to put an end to Serbian genocide
Really? You forgot about Monica Levinsky?
And there were no Serbian genocide, your own damn court admitted that. There were no WMD in Iraq either.
Russia, on the the other hand, intervened to put an end to real genocide your nazi conducted in Eastern Ukraine.
 
Intervention in the remains of Yugoslavia was to put an end to Serbian genocide
Really? You forgot about Monica Levinsky?
And there were no Serbian genocide, your own damn court admitted that.

Lewinski had nothing to do with the cruel Serbian genocides that forced Western action to end that genocide. Yes, there very much was genocide.

Bullcrap which was later refuted. Same with WMD.
You just demonstrated your utter ignorance in the matter.
Sorry man, it was Lewinski.
 
Intervention in the remains of Yugoslavia was to put an end to Serbian genocide
Really? You forgot about Monica Levinsky?
And there were no Serbian genocide, your own damn court admitted that.

Lewinski had nothing to do with the cruel Serbian genocides that forced Western action to end that genocide. Yes, there very much was genocide.

Bullcrap which was later refuted.

Serbian war criminals.

 
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