barbos
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That was not the promise. And they did not knock us at all.
That was all fiction, everything. All your plans ended up as utter failures.
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How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?
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That was all fiction, everything. All your plans ended up as utter failures.
Harry Bosch
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What was the promise? And what was the fiction? Putler's goal was to conquer all of Ukraine and take Kyiv. They failed. Retreated home to their mama. Then the molesters regrouped, and used force and took a portion of eastern Ukraine. They outnumber the Ukrainians 5 to 1 and have 10 times the amount of shells. Again, congratulations. Do you want a ticker-tape parade?
barbos
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I guess we need to capitulate now.
BTW, you are aware that Zelensky can lie?
barbos
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Promise was recapture of Crimea, in case you forgot.
Harry Bosch
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Of course my friend, I've never heard of a politician that didn't lie!
barbos
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You do realize that ukrainians themselves admitted that was not what happened?
People in the current Ukrainian government are saying what you just said is BS and that what Putn was saying is the truth.
I repeat to you: People in the current Zelensky administration are saying YOU are full of shit.
Harry Bosch
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Your side captured Crimea in 2014! I have no idea what's going to happen in the future in Eastern Europe. I assume that at some point, a peace deal will need to be struck with some trading of land in order for a long-term peace. But somehow, the world needs to find a way to prevent future Russian invasions in Europe everytime the west is mean to Russia. The only possible solution that I see are greater alliances. Russia isn't going to attack a country that is in a strong alliance that can fight back.
barbos
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No you don't. You don't understand how capable this ukrainian regime at lying.
barbos
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Russia is not interested in invading anyone. It is your side.
Harry Bosch
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? We all saw it on TV! Your side initially bragged about the invasion! Are you saying that the 40 mile Russian military convoy was simply a bunch of Russians out on a family excursion? What is this:
https://www.space.com/satellites-russian-military-convoy-ukraine
barbos
Contributor
Nope
That's not what actually happened, we have been over this a million times.
You are full of shit. That's not me saying it, that's Zelensky BFF Arestovich saying it.
Harry Bosch
Contributor
Please. Putler is threatening Moldova and the Baltics now. He threatens Poland all the time. You've said it yourself many times that the goal is to conquer all of Ukraine. Should I go into the archives of this long thread and find your words admitting to this?
Harry Bosch
Contributor
Holy cow! So are the Russian media now saying that Russia never invaded Ukraine? How are they explaining all the troops and the long convoy?
barbos
Contributor
Russian forces entered "Ukrainian" territory in order to force Ukrainian regime to comply with agreement they signed.
barbos
Contributor
Of course he does. They are threatening Russia, Russia threatens them back.
No Baltics though, they've been quiet lately. So what's your problem with that?
What is your fucking problem with that? Russia does not have a right to threaten? Only you have that right? Who gave you that right?
Harry Bosch
Contributor
Okay, so the "entered" rather than invaded? Is that the excuse? And they why did they "leave" (retreated!) when Z-man told them to shove it?
barbos
Contributor
What excuse? Ukrainian scum was not behaving well, So Russia had to remind them who is the boss.
Is not that how it works?
Harry Bosch
Contributor
How is Moldova threatening Russia? We are pretty engaged right now. But if the west agreed to send troopers from Lepard Lodge 462 from Milwaukie including their leader, the Grand Poobah, as peace keepers, would that help Russians sleep better at night?
barbos
Contributor
The usual with NATO.
Harry Bosch
Contributor
In eastern europe, the only way to prevent Russian invasion is to join Nato. Moldova dosn't want to be invaded.