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How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?
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A minor nitpick, but it was Germans who came up with the word and at the time nobody in Finland used it, and were even offended by the accusations. Big part of Finlandization is to not admit Finlandization.
And I hope they do join eventually. Ukraine is an example what happens to Russia's neighbours who are not in NATO.
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Both England and Australia have plenty of ignorant people. And arrogant ones as well.
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What part of Poland did Russia lose in WWI?What part of "land that Russia lost in WW1" don't you understand?
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What part of "land that Poland grabbed from Russia in WW1" don't you understand?What part of Poland did Russia lose in WWI?What part of "land that Russia lost in WW1" don't you understand?
And Yes, Poland did grab some land from other well known country before WW2.
Of course nobody wants to talk about because Poland was/is a democracy.
There was a whole lot more land grabbing back then than you think.
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That is not what you asked. Stealth editing only works when the original is either edited accordingly or no longer available. You askedWhat part of "land that Russia lost in WW1" don't you understand?
I bet did not know is that Poland and few other countries (other than germany) were grabbing land before WW2 as well
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barbos
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You got it wrong. Ukraine is an example of what happens to Russia's neighbours who WANT to join NATO. And Finland is an example of the opposite.
barbos
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Yep, Poland did grab land before WW2, sharing it with...... none other than Hitler himselfThat is not what you asked. Stealth editing only works when the original is either edited accordingly or no longer available. You askedWhat part of "land that Russia lost in WW1" don't you understand?
I bet did not know is that Poland and few other countries (other than germany) were grabbing land before WW2 as well
steve_bank
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For a long time we see daily reports of global tradgedy and catastrophe in the news. I have become desensitzed.
That being said, I feel for the Ukrainians. They are facing eradication as a people and culture. I am starting to tink maybe NATO shoud have responded. Are we going down the path of appeasement?
Putin said he is going to "de Nazify Ukraine'. It is not hard to imagine what that will mean.
That being said, I feel for the Ukrainians. They are facing eradication as a people and culture. I am starting to tink maybe NATO shoud have responded. Are we going down the path of appeasement?
Putin said he is going to "de Nazify Ukraine'. It is not hard to imagine what that will mean.
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Barbos is like a white American who refuses to acknowledge slavery actually happened and has consequences, or says it was not really all that bad.
I read several books on WWII. When the Germans entered Ukraine the people initially looked at them as liberators for the Soviets. Putin will restore the oppression.
How long before Russian is again mandatory in schools?
I read several books on WWII. When the Germans entered Ukraine the people initially looked at them as liberators for the Soviets. Putin will restore the oppression.
How long before Russian is again mandatory in schools?
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The Marco Polo Bridge incident is generally regarded as the start of the Second Sino-Japanese War.
The Gleiwitz incident on the night of 31 August 1939, a false flag operation, is generally regarded as the start of the second world war.
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I’m aware of a lot of land grabbing for centuries prior to the 20th century.What part of "land that Poland grabbed from Russia in WW1" don't you understand?What part of Poland did Russia lose in WWI?What part of "land that Russia lost in WW1" don't you understand?
And Yes, Poland did grab some land from other well known country before WW2.
Of course nobody wants to talk about because Poland was/is a democracy.
There was a whole lot more land grabbing back then than you think.
barbos
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And all of that was done by Russia.....
Replace word "flag" with word ''''democracy''''
Please note, quad quotes there are for a reason.
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Well so much for my prediction. Fucker did it. Let’s see how it goes. Give ‘em hell, Ukraine.
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That's laughable. You could make a case that Ukraine, who is no desperately depending on support from US, could be pressured to make pro-NATO statements, there is the counterpoint that due to Putin's warmongering, NATO is really now the only option for them. But to say the same about Sweden or Finland is just beyond the parody horizon. Neither of those countries has said they will join NATO, but the public opinion in both has shifted and it's becoming a talking point. Not due to US pressure, but because of Russia's belligerence.
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Public is generally stupid. And your own president sent Ukraine a message just a couple of days ago.
And you are really naive if you think US does not pressure their EU partners.
They totally do, they pressure Germany, they pressure Finland and they pressure Sweden. They admit that themselves.
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The invasion has begun. Putin has demanded military forces of Ukraine at Kyiv surrender. Kyiv is some 300 miles from the Dombass breakaway republic. This is an act of war on an independent nation that in no way can threaten Russia in any major way. Putin is now a war criminal. It is obvious Pootie saw his chance to make a land grab slipping through his fingers and decided to act and to hell with the consequences. February 23, 2022. A day of infamy.