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How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

And I didn't realize that the Kursk incursion caused the displacement of 200,000 Russians.
First of all there were no 200K people to displace there. Total population there was probably around 30-50K.
Second of all half of the population of Ukraine has been displaced. So we are clearly winning in that category.

Google Gemini says:
As of 2024, the population of the Kursk Region of Russia is projected to be 1,061,200. The Kursk Region is located in western Russia and borders Ukraine. The region's capital is the city of Kursk, which had a population of 440,052 in 2021.

For barbos:
- Russia emptied/evacuated people also from villages and towns outside the area that Ukrainians conquered. That is all together 200.000 people.
- After emptying the outside villages, the Russian soldiers looted the shops in those villages!
 
One has to admit that the situation in Ukraine is anything but favorable for Putinstan. Without military spending on the Ukraine invasion the Putinstan economy would be in the shitter. I don't buy into all the anti-Putinstan propaganda but there is some truth to be gleaned. Ukraine's ability to attack and destroy targets deep inside Putinstan has changed the war even moreso than their Kursk operation. If Ukraine can manage to take and hold territory despite losing territory elsewhere they are in a better position. Let's give them the weapons to defend our freedom. This is a continuation of the cold war.
You still talk about Kursk? Normal people have already agreed that it was and is a russian trap.
If it was a trap why didn't they spring it?!?!

Earlier today I was reading that Russia actually had enough firepower there, just not properly organized and when Ukraine jammed their comms that failure couldn't be corrected before Ukraine bit off a chunk.

"If it was a trap why didn't they spring it?!?!"

Good question!
 
The "evacuation" one month ago:



"In today’s video, we take a look at how Russian society reacted to the recent events in the Kursk region. Apart from looking at the responses of Russians directly affected by the Ukrainian invasion of Russia, we also look at Russian media and how they are attempting to create a favourable narrative for the Kremlin, despite the situation on the ground of the ongoing war with Ukraine showing that Russians in the Kursk region are panicking and fleeing from the region.
How was the Ukrainian invasion narrated in the Russian media and in social media? Did the propaganda attack the West this time? And why are Russians asking Putin directly for help instead of their local authorities?"
 

Israel Missile Strike on RUSSIAN Air Base in Syria!​


Hmeimim Air Base Hit by 30 Missiles!​

Israel has launched a missile strike against a Russian air base near Jabla in Western Syria.
Both Syrian and Russian air defenses were reportedly active at the time but surprise, surprise failed to intercept the missiles. So Russian air defense just as ineffective against Israeli missiles as it is against Ukrainian drones.
Judging by the photos and videos this was hit hard.
This attack reportedly taking place after the arrival of an Iranian plane which was carrying munitions.
30 missiles launched from naval ships
beginning at 3:55 a.m. and ending at 4:41 a.m.
This airbase is located near Basel al-Assad airport.

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One has to admit that the situation in Ukraine is anything but favorable for Putinstan. Without military spending on the Ukraine invasion the Putinstan economy would be in the shitter. I don't buy into all the anti-Putinstan propaganda but there is some truth to be gleaned. Ukraine's ability to attack and destroy targets deep inside Putinstan has changed the war even moreso than their Kursk operation. If Ukraine can manage to take and hold territory despite losing territory elsewhere they are in a better position. Let's give them the weapons to defend our freedom. This is a continuation of the cold war.
You still talk about Kursk? Normal people have already agreed that it was and is a russian trap.
If it was a trap why didn't they spring it?!?!

Earlier today I was reading that Russia actually had enough firepower there, just not properly organized and when Ukraine jammed their comms that failure couldn't be corrected before Ukraine bit off a chunk.

"If it was a trap why didn't they spring it?!?!"

Good question!
Russian trap, my ass. This is Russian state propaganda doing their job.
I would venture to guess the genesis of this "Russian trap" is the documents seized by Ukrainian forces when they initially went into the Kursk region. Yes, they suspected, and in some detail that this would or could happen in the region. They just did nothing about it. Why? Likely a handful of reasons typical of a broken system, not the least of which would be wanting to pass up the chain of command only positive information. So some intermediary(ies) between Kursk and Kremlin sat on it, altered it, and/or spun it to the point it lost its sense of urgency by time it got to the leadership who could actually take action, if it ever got there at all.
Later, Russian state propaganda takes this seized documents information and turns into a Russian trap story for public consumption. That's their job, to do their best to maintain the psychological condition of the Russian people. This is like when every time Ukraine has a successful drone attack on a target within Russia, it is always the debris of shot down drone that starts the fire. It's the best spin they can put on it. But the more Ukraine can bring this war to Russian soil the harder it gets to maintain the facade with the Russian people.
Ukrainian soldiers taking and holding Russia soil. Yeah, we meant to do that. Puh-leeze.
 
Vovchansk - also Russian trap?

Russian Factory Assault TURNS INTO BLOODBATH!​


Here, in a desperate bid to shift the momentum in Vovchansk, Russian command deployed brutal Chechen "Akhmat" forces to pressure exhausted troops into launching a counterattack to reclaim the Aggregate Plant. What followed exposed just how dire the situation had become for the Russians, with consequences that would decisively shape the battle for Vovchansk.

Recent developments in Vovchansk have dramatically shifted the tactical landscape. The focal point of these operations was the Vovchansk aggregate plant, which Ukrainian forces successfully recaptured after an intense week-long assault. This operation, which employed some of Ukraine's most elite units, marked a critical milestone in the battle for Vovchansk, as the aggregate plant represented the last major fortified position within the city.

The fall of the aggregate plant has revealed the desperate conditions under which Russian forces were operating. Captured Russian soldiers have disclosed that they were forced to dig wells in the plant's basements to access drinking water – a testament to the severe supply issues they faced during the siege. Moreover, it has come to light that Russian commanders maintained terror control through a regime of deception and intimidation, compelling their forces to hold these untenable positions at great cost.

In the wake of this setback, the remnants of the broken Russian forces started to retreat towards the northern parts of the city, transitioning to a defensive posture. To cover this retreat, they had intensified artillery attacks and bombardments targeting Ukrainian logistical elements within the city. Ukrainian Kharkiv Group of Forces Spokesperson Vitaliy Sarantsev reported that Russian forces are now digging tunnels and underground passageways between buildings in Vovchansk to conceal troop movements. This shift in tactics indicates a clear attempt to delay Ukrainian advances and facilitate a defensive realignment.

Further complicating the situation, Russian sources claim to have disabled the bridge over the Vovcha River on Soborna Street continuation. While this claim is yet to be independently verified, such an action would align with their apparent strategy of hindering Ukrainian progress and buying time for their defensive preparations.

In a significant development, reports indicate that Russian command has redeployed Chechen "Akhmat" elements to the Kharkiv direction to serve as blocking units.
These “blocking units” are reportedly tasked with compelling Russian troops to advance, enforcing punishments, and even executing Russian soldiers who refuse to fight.


As you may recall, elements of the “Akhmat” forces were already pulled out from the Kharkiv direction in August to deploy them as an emergency solution after the start of the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk. Now back again, this drastic measure suggests a severe crisis in morale and combat effectiveness among regular Russian units.

After the redeployment of Chechens was complete, the Russian soldiers were forced to attack the aggregate plant and restore the recently lost positions. The operation involved numerous MT-LB vehicles from the 82nd Motorized Rifle Brigade, fully loaded with infantry on top. Unfortunately for Russians, this attempt proved to be disastrous. Ukrainian forces, particularly their drone operators, effectively repelled the attack. The 57th Separate Motorized Infantry Brigade reported inflicting heavy losses on the Russian forces, claiming the elimination of approximately 100 Russian personnel, wounding about 25 more, and destroying 17 MT-LB and BMP-2 armored vehicles.

Geolocated footage from this failed counterattack reveals the brutal efficiency of Ukrainian drone warfare. Russian soldiers were caught off-guard, often unable to dismount from their vehicles before being engaged by FPV drones. In other instances where infantry did manage to disembark, they found themselves relentlessly pursued by grenade-dropping drones, with little effective cover due to the extensive destruction of building roofs in the area. The original uncensored footage of the failed Russian attempt can be found on our Telegram channel through the link in the description...

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INFO:
2023 Ukraine told that they would produce one million drones.
A few days ago, Ukraine announced that their production will rise to 4 million drones/annum.
 

Dragon drone spews molten thermite on Russian tank in explosive Ukraine frontline combat​

Shortly after a failed Russian assault, an FPV unit from the 30th Mechanized Brigade successfully destroyed a Russian tank using a ‘dragon’ drone.
Elsewhere, another Ukrainian FPV drone destroyed a Russian ground drone that was delivering supplies to Russian soldiers.
Meanwhile near Tsukuryne, Ukrainian tankers from the 59th Motorized Brigade were caught on camera firing at Russian positions.



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The dark red is what Russia has achieved in 1.10. 2023 - 1.10. 2024

The dark blue is what Ukraine has achieved in 1.10. 2023 - 1.10. 2024


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And here are the Russian losses:

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Losses = dead and wounded
 
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