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How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

To All, To All, To All! [for barbos: Всем, всем, всем!] This was the title of Lenin's perhaps most famous leaflet.

Barbos does not want to discuss the battles of Kursk but instead tries to argue about the number of evacuees, maintaining this type of pseudo-discussion regardless of the topic.

The truth is this:
  • The evacuation in the Kursk region was a complete farce. Many people fled in their own cars, and officials evacuated themselves first. The elderly and those without resources to leave the areas occupied by Ukrainians remained in their villages, although the Ukrainians provided them with humanitarian aid.
  • The Ukrainian army evacuated people from around a 30 km radius, which is why the number of evacuees rose to about 220,000. Russian soldiers were happy to assist with evacuations outside the war zone because, once the villages were empty, they could freely loot stores, homes, etc. I posted Russian videos of this looting here yesterday and the day before.
Barbos does not want to discuss, for example, the following issues:
  • The complete incompetence of Russian army commanders
  • The looting by soldiers
  • The plight of both the evacuees and those who were not evacuated.
It is pointless to discuss trivial matters with Barbos; it is better to ask her opinion on the main issue.

Barbos! You know that things are not well. Why not engage in a constructive discussion about these matters?
 
Last night



Here the same pics.
A question about these drones Ukraine are using for these attacks.
What is their range? Some of the attacks are 100s km from Ukraine. There is always the payload vs. weight. vs. size vs. range balancing.
Are they being launched from Ukraine or launched from inside Russia?
I will write about drones tomorrow, but typically a drone can reach up to 600 km, but there are also drones that can reach over 1.000 km.
 
Vuhledar was a small town - now it's only ruins:
  • The Russians attempted to capture Vuhledar starting in February 2022, when the major offensive began.
  • Vuhledar originally had a population of 14,000.
  • During these 31 months, an estimated 18,000 to 25,000 Russian soldiers were killed, which is significantly more than the original population of the town.
  • Also, a vast amount of equipment belonging to the Russian army was destroyed. For these reasons, these defensive battles were of great importance to the Ukrainian army.
  • The fact that the fighting could continue for such a long time was partly due to Vuhledar's location on a hill and the incompetence of Russian commanders, who showed little concern for the lives of their soldiers.

    According to Russian propaganda "The Victory in Vuhledar" is almost as big as when Berlin was taken in WWII. (deep sarcasm)
    In reality, at that pace, the Russian army needs about 2.000 years in order to conquer Ukraine. In other words, it will never happen.

    Sadly, for the Russian people, even if the peace would come today - it will take some 50 years before it has recovered - if ever.
 
your fucking ukro-nazi

Who, exactly, are you referencing when you use this phrase? Can you please be specific for the sake of comunication instead of self-derailing to engage in nonsense name-calling?


I can’t even tell if you mean singular or plural.
Azov.

Gotcha! I understand now. Last I heard, Azov comprised about 900 guys. There are more nazis in Eureka, Kansas than that! Don't let that small of a group scare you so much.
 
And I didn't realize that the Kursk incursion caused the displacement of 200,000 Russians.
First of all there were no 200K people to displace there. Total population there was probably around 30-50K.
Second of all half of the population of Ukraine has been displaced. So we are clearly winning in that category.

Google Gemini says:
As of 2024, the population of the Kursk Region of Russia is projected to be 1,061,200. The Kursk Region is located in western Russia and borders Ukraine. The region's capital is the city of Kursk, which had a population of 440,052 in 2021.
So you think Kursk was evacuated? Is that what CNN says?

Meanwhile, Ukro-wehrmacht left Ugledar and nothing but crickets here, how typical.
Fun fact, Ukro-internet warriors after loss of Ugledar edited Wikipedia saying it had population of 100 people :)
So it was not significant. These people have no shame or self awareness.
Flailing. It appears that rock you've been carrying for Russia has gotten mighty heavy.
 
your fucking ukro-nazi

Who, exactly, are you referencing when you use this phrase? Can you please be specific for the sake of comunication instead of self-derailing to engage in nonsense name-calling?


I can’t even tell if you mean singular or plural.
Azov.


So you mean this place?

Azov
Town in Rostov Oblast, Russia • gorodazov.ru
Azov, previously known as Azak, is a town in Rostov Oblast, Russia, situated on the Don River just 16 kilometers from the Sea of Azov, which derives its name from the town. Wikipedia

Meanwhile, Ukro-wehrmacht left Ugledar
Does this mean “azov” again?
 
Last night



Here the same pics.
A question about these drones Ukraine are using for these attacks.
What is their range? Some of the attacks are 100s km from Ukraine. There is always the payload vs. weight. vs. size vs. range balancing.
Are they being launched from Ukraine or launched from inside Russia?
Most of them seem to be basically robo-Cessnas. Big, fat, slow targets that can't even think of hiding in the weeds. If they fly into competent air defense they're shot down. But Russia doesn't have competent air defense everywhere and even when they do it can be saturated. And it's not like on a videogame where once a target is hit it instantly vanishes. If you detonate a target that's obvious, but with lesser damage it can be hard to know.
 
One has to admit that the situation in Ukraine is anything but favorable for Putinstan. Without military spending on the Ukraine invasion the Putinstan economy would be in the shitter. I don't buy into all the anti-Putinstan propaganda but there is some truth to be gleaned. Ukraine's ability to attack and destroy targets deep inside Putinstan has changed the war even moreso than their Kursk operation. If Ukraine can manage to take and hold territory despite losing territory elsewhere they are in a better position. Let's give them the weapons to defend our freedom. This is a continuation of the cold war.
You still talk about Kursk? Normal people have already agreed that it was and is a russian trap.
If it was a trap why didn't they spring it?!?!

Earlier today I was reading that Russia actually had enough firepower there, just not properly organized and when Ukraine jammed their comms that failure couldn't be corrected before Ukraine bit off a chunk.
Do you even know what word "trap" means?
Isn’t it in Russian “Я подчиняюсь!”?
 
Imagine American white supremacist nationalists in control of all American media, and what that would look and sound like.



Alternative forms​


Etymology​

Borrowed from Russian укронаци (ukronaci). Influenced by anti-Ukrainian sentiment in Russia as a result of Russian propaganda depicting Ukrainian nationalism as a neo-Nazi regime.<a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Ukronazi#cite_note-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Ukronazi#cite_note-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> By surface analysis, Ukro- +‎ Nazi.


Noun​

Ukronazi (plural Ukronazis)


  1. (slang, offensive, ethnic slur, derogatory) A Ukrainian nationalist, especially one showing Russophobia and anti-Russian sentiment.

  1. Synonym: Ukrofascist

Usage notes​

  • The term defines Ukrainian nationalism based on Russophobia and alleged neo-Nazism. As a result, it is mainly used in Russia (Russian language) or the Runet.



An op-ed published by Russian state media on Sunday claimed that "Ukronazism" is a greater threat to the world than Hitler's Nazi Party and called for a complete Russian takeover of Ukrainian territory and culture, as Ukrainian forces continued to push back Russian invaders on Monday.
Timofey Sergeytsev claimed in the op-ed published on RIA Novosti that the "Nazism" in Ukraine is "disguised as a desire for 'independence' and a 'European' (Western, pro-American) path of 'development' (in reality - to degradation)."

He also wrote that the "majority" of Ukrainians are "passive Nazis, accomplices of Nazism," saying that they "are also guilty" and that they "must survive the hardships of the war and assimilate the experience as a historical lesson and atonement for [their] guilt."

The writer additionally stated that in peacetime it would be necessary to "achieve irreversible changes" and that forced labor, the death penalty and imprisonment would be used as punishment against the "accomplices of the Nazi regime."
 
your fucking ukro-nazi

Who, exactly, are you referencing when you use this phrase? Can you please be specific for the sake of comunication instead of self-derailing to engage in nonsense name-calling?


I can’t even tell if you mean singular or plural.
Azov.

Gotcha! I understand now. Last I heard, Azov comprised about 900 guys. There are more nazis in Eureka, Kansas than that! Don't let that small of a group scare you so much.
No, Azov is much bigger than that and they are not the only one nazi regiment in "Ukraine"
Speaking of ukro-nazis. FT in recent article suddenly started talking about how they are the problem for Elensky.
I thought there were no nazis in Ukraine?
 
your fucking ukro-nazi

Who, exactly, are you referencing when you use this phrase? Can you please be specific for the sake of comunication instead of self-derailing to engage in nonsense name-calling?


I can’t even tell if you mean singular or plural.
Azov.

Gotcha! I understand now. Last I heard, Azov comprised about 900 guys. There are more nazis in Eureka, Kansas than that! Don't let that small of a group scare you so much.
No, Azov is much bigger than that and they are not the only one nazi regiment in "Ukraine"
Speaking of ukro-nazis. FT in recent article suddenly started talking about how they are the problem for Elensky.
I thought there were no nazis in Ukraine?
Who said that? There are Nazis in every country in the world. Tons of Nazis in Russia. I'm sure that Utin would agree. Why are you so scared about a tiny minority of bigots that have no power?
 
your fucking ukro-nazi

Who, exactly, are you referencing when you use this phrase? Can you please be specific for the sake of comunication instead of self-derailing to engage in nonsense name-calling?


I can’t even tell if you mean singular or plural.
Azov.

Gotcha! I understand now. Last I heard, Azov comprised about 900 guys. There are more nazis in Eureka, Kansas than that! Don't let that small of a group scare you so much.
No, Azov is much bigger than that and they are not the only one nazi regiment in "Ukraine"
Speaking of ukro-nazis. FT in recent article suddenly started talking about how they are the problem for Elensky.
I thought there were no nazis in Ukraine?
Who said that? There are Nazis in every country in the world. Tons of Nazis in Russia. I'm sure that Utin would agree. Why are you so scared about a tiny minority of bigots that have no power?
Well, according to FT, nazis DO have power in Ukraine.
 
your fucking ukro-nazi

Who, exactly, are you referencing when you use this phrase? Can you please be specific for the sake of comunication instead of self-derailing to engage in nonsense name-calling?


I can’t even tell if you mean singular or plural.
Azov.

Gotcha! I understand now. Last I heard, Azov comprised about 900 guys. There are more nazis in Eureka, Kansas than that! Don't let that small of a group scare you so much.
No, Azov is much bigger than that and they are not the only one nazi regiment in "Ukraine"
Speaking of ukro-nazis. FT in recent article suddenly started talking about how they are the problem for Elensky.
I thought there were no nazis in Ukraine?
Who said that? There are Nazis in every country in the world. Tons of Nazis in Russia. I'm sure that Utin would agree. Why are you so scared about a tiny minority of bigots that have no power?
Well, according to FT, nazis DO have power in Ukraine.
What is FT? I assume that you know (and it's been stated over and over) that President Z is Jewish.
 
About nazis.

There are significantly more Nazis in Russia than in Ukraine ever been. In fact, Russia's leadership have learned everything from the Nazis. Nazis are easy to recognise by their actions: they carry out ethnic cleansing, steal children from other countries and distribute them to "suitable families." For them, all "infidels"—those who do not fit into their Nazi ideology—are outcasts.

They also kill neighbouring peoples using their own minority groups in the army, thus getting rid of their own minorities as well. They engage in absurd propaganda and brainwash their citizens. Children are raised from a young age to be soldiers for future wars, just like in the 1930s and 1940s.

Among their own people, there is a significant number who have seen the truth from the start, but if they express their thoughts in any way, they are sent to camps, prisons, or simply killed.

During their wars, they destroy everything. They don’t even respect civilian rights and disregard international law.
They accuse the countries they have attacked of the very crimes they themselves commit daily.
In the areas they occupy, they immediately begin purges, establish torture centres, and kill people they suspect of being opponents.

They begin with small wars against small nations. After that against bigger nations - until they choke. In the end, they always lose the wars they have started.

This description fits the Russian ruling elite perfectly.
Eventually, the entire nation will realise how they’ve been deceived, how they’ve been lied to on every level.
And they will have to suffer all the consequences.
 
your fucking ukro-nazi

Who, exactly, are you referencing when you use this phrase? Can you please be specific for the sake of comunication instead of self-derailing to engage in nonsense name-calling?


I can’t even tell if you mean singular or plural.
Azov.

Gotcha! I understand now. Last I heard, Azov comprised about 900 guys. There are more nazis in Eureka, Kansas than that! Don't let that small of a group scare you so much.
No, Azov is much bigger than that and they are not the only one nazi regiment in "Ukraine"
Speaking of ukro-nazis. FT in recent article suddenly started talking about how they are the problem for Elensky.
I thought there were no nazis in Ukraine?
Who said that? There are Nazis in every country in the world. Tons of Nazis in Russia. I'm sure that Utin would agree. Why are you so scared about a tiny minority of bigots that have no power?
Odd that the LePen Nazi-Lites are aligned with Russian interests.
 
Why are you so scared about a tiny minority of bigots that have no power?
Fear is the glue that holds a dictator's support system together.
They don't really have Nazi's in significant numbers but they have lots and lots of fear of Nazis.
 
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