How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[ZiprHead]

The same false equivalence.

A false equivalence or false equivalency is an informal fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency. Colloquially, a false equivalence is often called "comparing apples and oranges."

As the saying goes Barbos is trying to compare apples with oranges.

The EU wants to be like Russia in political censorship...a false equivalence, the two are diametrically opposed.

Politicians over here use false consequence.

Net censorship over here is very minimal. There is no general government censorship of political speech. The same as public verbal speech. You can not incite to riot, conspire to commit crime, .

If you make physical threats against public officials the FBI may come knocking at your door.

Biden can not suppress pro Trump speech or prevent his running for office, which is what Putin does to opposition candidates.

Barbos who has probably lived in a semi isolated Russian culture has only his PC display to see the world,.

Maybe we should just call false equivalences Barboses. As in "you just used a Barbos."

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

The same false equivalence.

A false equivalence or false equivalency is an informal fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency. Colloquially, a false equivalence is often called "comparing apples and oranges."

As the saying goes Barbos is trying to compare apples with oranges.

The EU wants to be like Russia in political censorship...a false equivalence, the two are diametrically opposed.

Politicians over here use false consequence.

Net censorship over here is very minimal. There is no general government censorship of political speech. The same as public verbal speech. You can not incite to riot, conspire to commit crime, .

If you make physical threats against public officials the FBI may come knocking at your door.

Biden can not suppress pro Trump speech or prevent his running for office, which is what Putin does to opposition candidates.

Barbos who has probably lived in a semi isolated Russian culture has only his PC display to see the world,.

Maybe we should just call false equivalences Barboses. As in "you just used a Barbos."

If it includes state propaganda lies then yes.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

google showed Patriot batteries at Kiev airport

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apparently map was created from 2023 data,
Interesting and weird that Regime in Kiev apparently has/had Tu-22s and Mig-29s and Su-24.
I wonder if any of these planes operational.

Well, duh, an airport is a very logical place to put them.

1) They're targets. Better to have them away from other things.

2) They are rockets. You don't want to be nearby and unprotected when one leaps into the sky. Thus you want to avoid putting them near people.

In a typical city what's the largest space that's reasonably available? An airport.

 

[Elixir]

In the next couple of days we will probably learn who “wins” in Ukraine.
If Pootey’s boy loses again and the House flips, Putin is finished.
I wonder what will become of babs and his ilk, whose best efforts were for naught.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

In the next couple of days we will probably learn who “wins” in Ukraine.
If Pootey’s boy loses again and the House flips, Putin is finished.
I wonder what will become of babs and his ilk, whose best efforts were for naught.

There are separatist rumblings in Siberia. He won't have far to go to stay on Russian Hitler's payroll.

 

[Elixir]

In the next couple of days we will probably learn who “wins” in Ukraine.
If Pootey’s boy loses again and the House flips, Putin is finished.
I wonder what will become of babs and his ilk, whose best efforts were for naught.

There are separatist rumblings in Siberia. He won't have far to go to stay on Russian Hitler's payroll.

Just hearing about bomb threats of Russian origin, against GA polling places.
Those fuckers’ days are numbered if they can’t get Cheato installed.

 

[steve_bank]

The same false equivalence.

A false equivalence or false equivalency is an informal fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency. Colloquially, a false equivalence is often called "comparing apples and oranges."

As the saying goes Barbos is trying to compare apples with oranges.

The EU wants to be like Russia in political censorship...a false equivalence, the two are diametrically opposed.

Politicians over here use false consequence.

Net censorship over here is very minimal. There is no general government censorship of political speech. The same as public verbal speech. You can not incite to riot, conspire to commit crime, .

If you make physical threats against public officials the FBI may come knocking at your door.

Biden can not suppress pro Trump speech or prevent his running for office, which is what Putin does to opposition candidates.

Barbos who has probably lived in a semi isolated Russian culture has only his PC display to see the world,.

Maybe we should just call false equivalences Barboses. As in "you just used a Barbos."

You da man.

 

[steve_bank]

The conservatives use false equivalence to argue against national health care. National health care is socialism.

 

[ZiprHead]

In the next couple of days we will probably learn who “wins” in Ukraine.
If Pootey’s boy loses again and the House flips, Putin is finished.
I wonder what will become of babs and his ilk, whose best efforts were for naught.

He should probably stay away from windows in tall buildings.

 

[steve_bank]

It would be pretty stupid tor Russia to attack commercial jets. But hen there is no evidence that Putin and company are acting rationally.

My guess is after years of war Putin is desperate and is fighting for his political power. We have not heard anything yet about internal dissent among the power elite. The wealthy must be getting a bit anxious about their future.

The wounded animal backed into a corner analogy. If Putin becomes a loose cannon who knows what he will do.

Ukraine occupies a part of Russia and Moscovites live under threat of drone attacks.


The militray can not be happy.

 

[ZiprHead]

The conservatives use false equivalence to argue against national health care. National health care is socialism.

If you like Social Security and Medicare you're a socialist.

 

[steve_bank]

The conservatives use false equivalence to argue against national health care. National health care is socialism.

If you like Social Security and Medicare you're a socialist.

For the extreme conservatives that is the gist of it. Anything less than complete privatization is socialist or communist.

 

[steve_bank]

Barbos, does Putin allow Russians to boogie?

First start moving your toes and tapping your fingers. Then your shudders. Before you know it you will get rid of that gloomy Russian dark cloud over your head.

boogie music - Google Search

Then get up and dance. Then you might start to undershorts us. We'd rather boogie than dance to a dictator.



When you understand the boogie then you will know Russia will never prevail.

May the boogie be with you Barbos.

 

[Politesse]

What are you talking about? Putin invented the very concept of boogie. What lesser nations call "dance", loyal Russians call a Putin impression.

 

[ZiprHead]

Oooh, poor Russia. Lost another one.

 

[barbos]

Fun fact, EU has or aspire to have basically the same internet censorship Russia has.
Yet you don't seem to sanction and/or regime change them. And to be fair US is de facto moving in the same direction.

We didn't sanction or regime change* you until you invaded another country. So what the hell are you talking about?

*We actually didn't do that to Russia but it would probably be a good thing and solve so many problems. Russia is the one attempting a regime change in Ukraine.

Dude, learn some history, You tried to maidan Putin out in 2012. And then, when you failed, you started sanctioning.

 

[barbos]

Oooh, poor Russia. Lost another one.

First of all, we did not lose another one. People of Moldova lost. Because they actually voted that piece of shit out and the only reason she won was people outside Moldova (living in western regime countries). Moldovans living in Russia and Transnistria were not allowed to vote.

And in Georgia you suffered a crushing defeat.

 

[steve_bank]

Oooh, poor Russia. Lost another one.

First of all, we did not lose another one. People of Moldova lost. Because they actually voted that piece of shit out and the only reason she won was people outside Moldova (living in western regime countries) Moldovans living in Russia and Transnistria were not allowed to vote be her regime.

And in Georgia you suffered a crushing defeat.

The same old Soviet Russian bluster. Putin blustered when Finland joined NATO, a result of the war. Putin blustered threatening nuclear weapons.

The inept Soviets blamed the west for inability to actually provide for the people.

The inept Putin has to bluster and create conspiracy theories for his inept war. He has to cover his ass in front of the Russian people.


The real tragedy is that Russia will never have a Taylor Swift concert, Russia is a cultural desert. Russia has a boogie deficit. There is no cool in Russia.

The link is not working, do you boogie in Russia? Insted of goose stepping stiff Rumanian soldiers maybe we will see them boggiethrough Moscow.



Two hours of boogie, you can play it in the background while you post your nonsense.

2 hors boogie piano - Google Search

 

[ZiprHead]

Fun fact, EU has or aspire to have basically the same internet censorship Russia has.
Yet you don't seem to sanction and/or regime change them. And to be fair US is de facto moving in the same direction.

We didn't sanction or regime change* you until you invaded another country. So what the hell are you talking about?

*We actually didn't do that to Russia but it would probably be a good thing and solve so many problems. Russia is the one attempting a regime change in Ukraine.

Dude, learn some history, You tried to maidan Putin out in 2012. And then, when you failed, you started sanctioning.

Dude, learn some history. Your Russian puppet was thrown out by the people and the government of Ukraine. They actually hate you, with good reason. You want to stifle their economy by tying it to Russia. They wanted to join the far more productive and lucrative economies of the west.

You have nothing of any gain to offer the people of Ukraine. That's why you have to conquer Ukraine by force. No one actually wants to align with Russia because it's an economic dead end. Prosperity or subjugation. All you offer is subjugation, the west offers prosperity.

We tried to offer that prosperity to you too. Putin rejected it because peeling off 50% of the Russian economy into Putin's coffers is a much better deal for him.

 

[barbos]

Fun fact, EU has or aspire to have basically the same internet censorship Russia has.
Yet you don't seem to sanction and/or regime change them. And to be fair US is de facto moving in the same direction.

We didn't sanction or regime change* you until you invaded another country. So what the hell are you talking about?

*We actually didn't do that to Russia but it would probably be a good thing and solve so many problems. Russia is the one attempting a regime change in Ukraine.

Dude, learn some history, You tried to maidan Putin out in 2012. And then, when you failed, you started sanctioning.

Dude, learn some history. Your Russian puppet was thrown out by the people and the government of Ukraine. They actually hate you, with good reason. You want to stifle their economy by tying it to Russia. They wanted to join the far more productive and lucrative economies of the west.

You have nothing of any gain to offer the people of Ukraine. That's why you have to conquer Ukraine by force. No one actually wants to align with Russia because it's an economic dead end. Prosperity or subjugation. All you offer is subjugation, the west offers prosperity.

We tried to offer that prosperity to you too. Putin rejected it because peeling off 50% of the Russian economy into Putin's coffers is a much better deal for him.

You're talking complete BS.