How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[barbos]

the west and democracy;

The west does not have democracy. Nobody really have democracy.

 

[barbos]

And we need to start cutting off countries that deal with Russia. It's insane and needs to be corrected when someone in the west buys a product made from either Russia or a country that helps Russia. These transactions are helping Russia continue their war.

Blah, blah blah blah. Cut already

 

[Harry Bosch]

Again, you just can't stop with the bullshit! If Ukranine's Jewish President stepped down today,

Not this "I have black friends" shit again.
Your fucking jewish president was clapping to WW2 jew killing nazi in Canada.
Regime in Ukraine is a nazi regime. Literally WW2 nazi.
I have zero tolerance to nazis, sorry.

<sigh> Russia wants Ukraine. Rather than admit this like a man, you make up bullshit excuses to justify Russian actions. If that is what it takes for you to sleep at night fine.

 

[Harry Bosch]

And we need to start cutting off countries that deal with Russia. It's insane and needs to be corrected when someone in the west buys a product made from either Russia or a country that helps Russia. These transactions are helping Russia continue their war.

Blah, blah blah blah. Cut already

In process.

 

[barbos]

<sigh> Russia wants Ukraine

You keep repeating it using wrong tense
You are really insulting my intelligence.

 

[barbos]

And we need to start cutting off countries that deal with Russia. It's insane and needs to be corrected when someone in the west buys a product made from either Russia or a country that helps Russia. These transactions are helping Russia continue their war.

Blah, blah blah blah. Cut already

In process.

Not really. US can't cut russian trade and EU is incapable of that even more.

 

[barbos]

Rather than admit this like a man, you make up bullshit excuses to justify Russian actions

Such a weird thing to say.
Ukraine gave up part of the "Ukraine" when they started harassing russian population.
So yes, I want russian part of Ukraine go back to Russia for their own sake.
Ukrainian part of Ukraine, I really don't like dealing with nazi part of them but they forced themselves on us.

I spent 2 years in russian army with western ukraine assholes (not all of them but....)
Educated western ukrainians are fine, it's "redneck" (for a lack of better word) part of them which were problematic.
And it was during USSR. After USSR dissolution nazi tendencies were free to develop by Nuland&Co.

 

[barbos]

Ignoring the nazi part of discussion.
Russia is going to win, Putin has popular support in Russia and worldwide.
Sanctions can not work. EU can not live without russian gas and oil.
And both India and China don't fucking care about your fucking sanctions, because US can't live without trade with China, period.
The only reason your assholes continue with this project is because they don't want collapse on their watch.
So Ukraine gets destroyed because you don't want to look weak or wrong.
And you are both weak and wrong. You gambled and lost. You made the same mistake Hitler made.

 

[barbos]

About recent 180 degrees from Trump, it seems that consensus of the observers is that Trump was being sarcastic.
Basically. The Green Goblin was coached by EU assholes to lie to Trump about Kiev successes in war with Russia.
And Trump is basically saying "Great, good luck taking Moscow, I am out of here"

 

[barbos]

By the way. The Green Goblin mentioned Georgia in his speech in UN. Georgians replied telling him to shut the fuck off

I have a question for you nazi supporters, explain to me Georgia? Why are they not occupied by Putin?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It's pretty simple really. Most of the time, wars start when bigger countries decide that they want a piece or all of a smaller country.

Yes, US/West wanted a piece or preferably all of Russia.

Why would we have any interest in a piece of Russia? Even if it had been someone like The Felon in charge it would have been an extremely stupid move and back then we had sane leadership, no way we would have. The problem is you do not believe that Ukraine should have been permitted to leave. You're acting like a domestic abuser who thinks they forever own their wife. And you are quite rightly terrified of the prospect because if Ukraine can escape your abuse others are going to leave, also.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

There was no winter Olympics in 1980.
But yes, EU/US/NATO has always been busy trying to destroy Russia. That's just historic fact.

That's a defensive alliance, they don't seek to destroy anyone.

Besides, your country was going to self-destruct on it's own--oppressive countries always fall behind free ones. NATOs job was simply to keep the peace until then.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The Paper Bear

I think this qualifies for typo of the year.

 

[TV and credit cards]

The Paper Bear

I think this qualifies for typo of the year.

No typo. Peskov used it and I'm trying to make it stick.

The Kremlin fired back Wednesday at President Trump’s dig that Russia’s struggles in Ukraine gave Moscow away as a “paper tiger” by bizarrely insisting it is still a “bear” of a military power.

“Russia is by no means a tiger. Russia is traditionally seen as a bear. There is no such thing as paper bears. Russia is a real bear,” Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov awkwardly told RBC Radio. “There is nothing paper about it.”

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Considering how the Ukraine war is going, I think Putin will win, then just go on to invade the Baltic countries. At that point the west will wake up and push back. China will see an opportunity and then we’ll have WW3 on our hands.

I think that's a plausible scenario, unless we commit troops and stop Russia now

I think committing troops is the wrong answer, that's asking for a direct clash between nuclear armed powers and both sides have bent over backwards to avoid such a situation due to the potential of it getting out of hand.

Weapons, though, and more liberty on using them.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The Paper Bear

I think this qualifies for typo of the year.

No typo. Peskov used it and I'm trying to make it stick.

The Kremlin fired back Wednesday at President Trump’s dig that Russia’s struggles in Ukraine gave Moscow away as a “paper tiger” by bizarrely insisting it is still a “bear” of a military power.

“Russia is by no means a tiger. Russia is traditionally seen as a bear. There is no such thing as paper bears. Russia is a real bear,” Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov awkwardly told RBC Radio. “There is nothing paper about it.”

Ok, paper bear it is.