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Idiot dragged out of bar by her hair for not wearing mask

You're right, mask refusal is the behavior of bullies and thugs, and they deserve to be treated like what they are, people deliberately willing to harm others to promote their dogma, and in this case a criminal trespasser to boot. You are the one proving your hypocritical inconsistency by suddenly pretending that property owners have no rights and people can not protect themselves. And if she was black, you'd be arguing that she deserved it b/c she probably had a gun and wouldn't have a problem if they asked her to leave just for being black.
 
TSwizzle said:
LOL. If that had been a black person on the receiving end rather than a "white Karen" you'd be taking to the streets or a knee or something. .
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LOL, no. Doesn't matter what race you are, if you refuse to wear a mask you're a fucking dumbass, period. Secondly my fellow super evil communists would not be idiotic enough to compare mask refusal to, for example, what happened to George Floyd.
 
GenesisNemesis said:
TSwizzle said:
LOL. If that had been a black person on the receiving end rather than a "white Karen" you'd be taking to the streets or a knee or something. .
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LOL, no. Doesn't matter what race you are, if you refuse to wear a mask you're a fucking dumbass, period.
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Another authoritarian on board with beating the shit out of a woman it seems. I'm not surprised in the least.
 
Not enough information. Doesn't seem like she was removed for wearing her mask so she's probably another "I have rights" asshole. But I could be wrong.

A person's right to swing their fist ends where another person's nose begins.
 
Authoritarian?
The Constitution starts with a list of reasons to have the government that it proposes to create. One is to "promote the general welfare." Mask mandates to limit the spread of plague is nicely tabbed into that slot.
About as 'authoritarian' as traffic lanes, safety rails, FDA laws limiting the amount of rat feces allowed in hot dogs.
 
TSwizzle said:
Hopefully the "security guard" will be charged with assault. Outrageous behavior.
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Why?

Apparently, the private establishment had rules that someone refused to follow. They got tossed out. Where's the problem with that?


Suppose a dude insisted on going into the women's bathroom and peeing in the sink? Even after being told not to do that by the staff! Would you still think that being tossed out by the hair was assault?

I wouldn't. I'd call it freedom. Freedom to toss out people who refuse to follow basic rules.
Tom
 
Keith&Co. said:
Authoritarian?
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This is about some of you cheering about a defenseless woman who had the shit beat out of her. As I said, if this had been a person of color rather than a "white Karen type" the narrative on here would be a lot different. Get a grip of yourselves.
 
The victim alleges she was dragged out by the hair. Frankly, if true, that seems a bit excessive without more information.
 
TSwizzle said:
GenesisNemesis said:
TSwizzle said:
LOL. If that had been a black person on the receiving end rather than a "white Karen" you'd be taking to the streets or a knee or something. .
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LOL, no. Doesn't matter what race you are, if you refuse to wear a mask you're a fucking dumbass, period.
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Another authoritarian on board with beating the shit out of a woman it seems. I'm not surprised in the least.
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Her gender isn't relevant and in no way did she "have the shit beat out our her". So now you've grossly misrepresented the facts, tried to make it about race, than make it about gender, all to avoid the fact that you have no argument that doesn't logically contradict your previously claimed support for private property rights and require you to now equate a company protecting it's private property and it's customers with "authoritarianism".
 
laughing dog said:
The victim alleges she was dragged out by the hair. Frankly, if true, that seems a bit excessive without more information.
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She essentially admitted to refusing to comply. Odds are that security tried to escort her to the door and she got physical and resisted, so it escalated. I don't see a difference between that and when drunks causing a disturbance or groping waitresses are thrown out of bars using the level of force needed depending upon their compliance.
 
ronburgundy said:
laughing dog said:
The victim alleges she was dragged out by the hair. Frankly, if true, that seems a bit excessive without more information.
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She essentially admitted to refusing to comply. Odds are that security tried to escort her to the door and she got physical and resisted, so it escalated. I don't see a difference between that and when drunks causing a disturbance or groping waitresses are thrown out of bars using the level of force needed depending upon their compliance.
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Now she's groping waitresses! All this could have been avoided if business owners didn't want to live an American dream. I have a feeling both parties sucked in this situation. I've been to bars so I know how annoying folks can get and security have to deal with these people every day. The security personal aren't the sweethearts some may think plus they're likely not getting paid enough to want to put in de-escalation efforts. That I know. However regarding this issue what I don't know is how she got past security without a mask, to begin with? If they are so tight about the rule enough to drag someone out by the hair you'd think folks would get stopped at the door to avoid the work it takes to remove them. :confused:

I think she had a mask but wasn't wearing it to have her drink but didn't put it back on while rambling to her male friend. The Security approached her (after seeing her without the mask) and ask her to put it back on (with an attitude), instead of complying Causby says snarkily "how am I supposed to drink with the mask on? am I supposed to drink through the mask"? and the security having dealt with shitty people all week just simply didn't have time for her shit and laid smackdown on that candy ass in response. :grin:
 
TomC said:
Apparently, the private establishment had rules that someone refused to follow. They got tossed out. Where's the problem with that?
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The problem is that they didn't get "tossed out". They were dragged along the floor by their hair, kicked and punched while defenseless on the floor. This is the actions of bullies and thugs. Something I thought was frowned upon here but this behavior is actually condoned providing it's a white Karen type that's on the receiving end.

TomC said:
Suppose a
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Suppose my auntie had balls, she'd be my uncle. You don't half talk a lot of shite.
 
No shirt, no shoes, no service. Masks now required too. Wear it or get out, refuse both, then get thrown out. No sympathy from me.
 
ronburgundy said:
laughing dog said:
The victim alleges she was dragged out by the hair. Frankly, if true, that seems a bit excessive without more information.
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She essentially admitted to refusing to comply. Odds are that security tried to escort her to the door and she got physical and resisted, so it escalated. I don't see a difference between that and when drunks causing a disturbance or groping waitresses are thrown out of bars using the level of force needed depending upon their compliance.
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It is pretty clear she refused to comply. The allegation of being pulled out by the hair is not substantiated. I suspect that method is not generally accepted or promoted as an approved method for removing someone unless there are extenuating circumstances. If a video or witness statements might clear up the missing information.
 
TSwizzle said:
This is about some of you cheering about a defenseless woman who had the shit beat out of her. As I said, if this had been a person of color rather than a "white Karen type" the narrative on here would be a lot different. Get a grip of yourselves.
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I think this woman was in idiot and in the wrong 100%, but I agree with you that race/ethnicity/religion drives a lot of the narrative on here. Just look at the reactions to the Gorilla Glue Girl where I was accused of racism just for mentioning that story. Apparently this case is worthy of being discussed on here, but a likely Gorilla Glue lawsuit is not ...
 
Derec said:
TSwizzle said:
This is about some of you cheering about a defenseless woman who had the shit beat out of her. As I said, if this had been a person of color rather than a "white Karen type" the narrative on here would be a lot different. Get a grip of yourselves.
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I think this woman was in idiot and in the wrong 100%, but I agree with you that race/ethnicity/religion drives a lot of the narrative on here. Just look at the reactions to the Gorilla Glue Girl where I was accused of racism just for mentioning that story. Apparently this case is worthy of being discussed on here, but a likely Gorilla Glue lawsuit is not ...
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Hate to say it, but there is truth to this. That doesn't automatically mean you are right about everything you posted on this forum. Just this time (and a few others I've seen), you're right. There is a bias here. I understand the bias (history has a lot to do with it) but I do see the lack of care in trying to understand opposing views without the racist label being flung or insinuated. I hope you continue to do what you do here Derec as I have a lot of respect for people like you who are open to sharing their bigotry opinions regardless of what others may think.
 
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