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He cheered for immigration crackdowns. He shared memes demanding ICE “enforce the laws.” And now he has died while in ICE custody. Under Trump.

His name was Johnny Noviello. He moved to the U.S. from Canada in 1988, became a lawful permanent resident in 1991, and lived in America for over 30 years. He’s the first Canadian national to die in ICE custody. He may also be the first Trump supporter to die in ICE custody. That’s harder to know, but this is the first example I am fully aware of.

In any case, when Trump returned to power, Johnny was all in. He considered Trump “the king,” posted in “Trump Train Unstoppable,” and shared anti-immigrant propaganda.

In 2023, he was convicted of racketeering and drug trafficking in Florida. He served his time. But in May 2025, ICE arrested him during a routine probation check. One month later, he died in one of those dangerously unsafe ICE detention centers.

Cause of death: still unknown.
 
Ten years ago, Jermaine Thomas was at the center of a case brought before the U.S. Supreme Court: Should a baby born to a U.S. citizen father deployed to a U.S. Army base in Germany have U.S. citizenship?

Last week, Thomas was escorted onto a plane with his wrists and ankles shackled, he says. He arrived in Jamaica, a country he’d never been to, a stateless man.

“I’m looking out the window on the plane,” Thomas told the Chronicle, “and I’m hoping the plane crashes and I die.”

Thomas has no citizenship, according to court documents. He is not a citizen of Germany (where he was born in 1986) or of the United States (where his father served in the military for nearly two decades) or of his father’s birth country of Jamaica (a place he’d never been).

Thomas doesn’t remember Germany. He says he thinks his first memory is in Washington state, but he moved around so much in his military family that it was hard to keep track.
 
He cheered for immigration crackdowns. He shared memes demanding ICE “enforce the laws.” And now he has died while in ICE custody. Under Trump.

His name was Johnny Noviello. He moved to the U.S. from Canada in 1988, became a lawful permanent resident in 1991, and lived in America for over 30 years. He’s the first Canadian national to die in ICE custody. He may also be the first Trump supporter to die in ICE custody. That’s harder to know, but this is the first example I am fully aware of.

In any case, when Trump returned to power, Johnny was all in. He considered Trump “the king,” posted in “Trump Train Unstoppable,” and shared anti-immigrant propaganda.

In 2023, he was convicted of racketeering and drug trafficking in Florida. He served his time. But in May 2025, ICE arrested him during a routine probation check. One month later, he died in one of those dangerously unsafe ICE detention centers.

Cause of death: still unknown.
As Joni Ernst says: “we’re all going to die.”
 


Confirmed true.

Better be careful, Derec. And that doesn't mean just wearing a condom.
 
Confirmed true.

Better be careful, Derec. And that doesn't mean just wearing a condom.
Do you have any more credible source than some random tweet?

For example, who has been stripped of their citizenship? For what kind of crime?
 
Because citizenship is extremely difficult and expensive to acquire, many people will take deferred actions and so forth if they are offered, foolishly trusting the government when it lies and says that legal documents make them a legal resident.
Much easier than most other countries, actually.
 
I'd have thought 1492 was the real start of the trouble?
"Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake coming down from the trees in the first place, and some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no-one should ever have left the oceans."
-- Douglas Adams
 
Can't really comment on your own experiences at your company, but I have a comment on this:
Even someone like Jay-Z, who went from selling drugs to becoming a billionaire, still hits structural limits. He can buy into a franchise, but he’ll never own the league.
No individual owns "the league" (by which I assume you mean the NBA).
NBA is owned by all the team owners. So unless somebody buys all the teams, they will never "own the league". White, black or otherwise.
So that is really a silly argument for the supposed "structural limits" that Jay Z faces.
And him having a net worth of $2.5G shows that these "structural limits" either do not exist, or else are meaningless.

Another question: why do billionaires like Jay Z or Oprah get almost no hate from the "eat the rich" crowd? Other billionaires get vilified constantly.
He can own his masters, but the platforms and distribution networks still belong to someone else.
Again, no individual owns "the platforms and distribution networks". For example, Sporify is a publicly traded company. You probably own a little piece somewhere in your 401k or IRA.
And owning masters gives one a lot of control over their music. Why are you downplaying it?
That’s the difference between symbolic success and systemic control.
You think two and a half billion is merely "symbolic success"?
And just to say it preemptively , I agree with anyone who points out that classism plays a major role. But to believe racism isn’t also a factor? That’s delusional, in my opinion.
Racism can cut both ways.
 
No individual owns "the league" (by which I assume you mean the NBA).
NBA is owned by all the team owners. So unless somebody buys all the teams, they will never "own the league". White, black or otherwise.
So that is really a silly argument for the supposed "structural limits" that Jay Z faces.
And him having a net worth of $2.5G shows that these "structural limits" either do not exist, or else are meaningless.

Another question: why do billionaires like Jay Z or Oprah get almost no hate from the "eat the rich" crowd? Other billionaires get vilified constantly.

You're too predictable. :rolleyes: The NBA may look diverse on the court, but ownership and executive leadership remain overwhelmingly white and male. Though I misspoke when saying "own the league" that disparity is exactly what I meant by "structural limits" and "own the league", not the impossibility of becoming rich, but the difficulty of translating that wealth into institutional power within elite systems.

Disparity for dummies:

  • Influence over decision-making. Ya know, access to the business table (owners' meetings, league votes, etc.)
Jay Z once held a tiny stake, less than 1%, in the Brooklyn Nets, which he later sold to launch his sports agency. He never had real decision-making power in the NBA. Ever heard of the “Jay Z Rule”? It was created specifically to prevent minor stakeholders like him from having influence. Either you don’t know that, or you’re being slick, hoping I wouldn’t catch how impressively hollow your argument really is.

If you think Jay Z and Oprah doesn't get hate, you might want to broaden your sources beyond one demographic. They've caught plenty, Jay Z’s been called a gatekeeper by fellow artists, and Oprah got dragged for that whole Hawaii nonsense. Where have you been? And seriously, what in the sage-burning, yacht-buying, manifest-your-dreams does Oprah and Jay Z getting hate have to do with immigrants discovering that the so-called “land of opportunity” is full of gatekeeping? Oh, it was clearly meant to get under my skin, and congrats, it did. So seriously, fuck you. I’m done with the passive-aggressive shots people are allowed to throw around here like it’s nothing.
 


Confirmed true.

Better be careful, Derec. And that doesn't mean just wearing a condom.

These crimes:
Grounds for Revocation of Naturalization?
I think the post is disingenuous in its wording. These must be crimes committed before naturalization and withheld at the time of application (fraud). Crimes committed after naturalization are just crimes by Americans.
 
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