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You go, Donny! Tell your psychophants to boycott the election.
 
ZiprHead said:
You go, Donny! Tell your psychophants to boycott the election.
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DiaperDon has always been unhinged. It's sobering to realize how many people are similarly affected in the GOP.

Some sobering levity is in order:

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELgA3S996Ng[/YOUTUBE]
 
Sadly, the Republican scare tactics may work. I read a long article that gave evidence that this is why the Democrats lost so many House seats and didn't take back the Senate. Statements like "defunding the police" etc. scared swing voters from supporting Democrats. Plus, the general election was obviously all about getting rid of Trump and not about voting for a more progressive government. Without the help of the more moderate Republicans and swing voters, we'd probably be looking at a second Trump term. So, no one group of people gave us the end of the Trump administration. It was a wide variety of groups of people who helped defeat him.
 
Keith&Co. said:
lpetrich said:
Sen. David Perdue 'invites' AOC to state to campaign for his opponent | Fox News - "Incumbent offers to buy congresswoman ticket to help his campaign in high-stakes runoff election"
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So, all Perdud us really willing to offer Georgia voters is to not be a democrat for 6 years.
Kinda like Bush I mostly promised not to be Dukakis for four...

Hell of a mandate.
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Hey, you should never complain about a politician making a promise he can actually keep!
 
Jarhyn said:
I am fully for a campaign to say "Don't vote in the runoff! tRump isn't even allowed to get his name on it! It's a sham!" And see how that fares. Apparently some right wing group has already tried similar, to boycott the election so, high hopes?
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A lot of people are seeing through that campaign. I'm surprised it is even being tried.
 
Will Asian Americans help Georgia elect the two Democratic candidates?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/asian-americans-georgia-senate/2020/11/28/28521068-2ad2-11eb-9b14-ad872157ebc9_story.html


When Long Tran, a liberal organizer of Vietnamese descent, hosted a meet-and-greet for Georgia Democrat Jon Ossoff in early 2017, he was hoping in part to engage more Asian Americans like himself in politics.
Not a single other Asian person showed up to his event.
Nearly four years later, that has dramatically changed. Georgia’s hand recount and vote certification confirmed that Asian American and Pacific Islander voters — who make up the fastest-growing demographic in Georgia — helped swing the state for the Democrats for the first time since 1992.
While AAPI voters comprise only about 4 percent of Georgia’s population, that amounts to roughly 238,000 eligible voters, more than enough to determine races in the narrowly divided state. Georgia saw a 91 percent increase in AAPI voter turnout over 2016, according to an analysis by the Democratic firm TargetSmart, and exit polls showed Asian American voters preferred Joe Biden to President Trump by 2 to 1.
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“We are that new electorate,” said Stephanie Cho, executive director of the Atlanta chapter of Asian Americans Advancing Justice. “Us along with Black woman voters, along with Latino voters, along with young people, really have changed the trajectory of what Georgia looks like.”
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The Advocacy Fund launched an “Asians for Ossoff & Warnock” campaign last week and after Thanksgiving planned to resume door-knocking, something it avoided during the general election because of the pandemic.
When it comes to AAPI outreach, some things “won’t cut it” anymore, Tran said. Campaigns can no longer create ads with a token Asian figure or run their standard English ads through Google Translate, he said, and they likely need to hold several events with multiple groups within the AAPI community.
Tran added that the “model minority” myth — which portrays Asian Americans as uniquely successful and well-integrated — can obscure the economic challenges faced by many. More than 50,000 Asian Americans in Georgia lack health insurance, and more than 40,000, including a third of Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islanders, live in poverty.
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Since I live in a small city that is mostly made up of Black and White people, with a very small percentage of Asian and Hispanic voters, I didn't know much about the impact of voters of Asian backgrounds in Georgia. I do know that parts of the districts north of Atlanta are extremely ethnically diverse. It's good to know that Asian Americans in Georgia are becoming more actively involved in politics, and according to this article about 2/3rds support Democratic candidates. So again, it appears obvious, that the results of this election will be all about turn out. Right now, it almost appears as if the Democrats are more enthusiastic about this election compared to the Republicans, especially the Republicans who are sulking about the Trump loss.
 
southernhybrid said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/asian-americans-georgia-senate/2020/11/28/28521068-2ad2-11eb-9b14-ad872157ebc9_story.html







The Advocacy Fund launched an “Asians for Ossoff & Warnock” campaign last week and after Thanksgiving planned to resume door-knocking, something it avoided during the general election because of the pandemic.
When it comes to AAPI outreach, some things “won’t cut it” anymore, Tran said. Campaigns can no longer create ads with a token Asian figure or run their standard English ads through Google Translate, he said, and they likely need to hold several events with multiple groups within the AAPI community.
Tran added that the “model minority” myth — which portrays Asian Americans as uniquely successful and well-integrated — can obscure the economic challenges faced by many. More than 50,000 Asian Americans in Georgia lack health insurance, and more than 40,000, including a third of Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islanders, live in poverty.
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Since I live in a small city that is mostly made up of Black and White people, with a very small percentage of Asian and Hispanic voters, I didn't know much about the impact of voters of Asian backgrounds in Georgia. I do know that parts of the districts north of Atlanta are extremely ethnically diverse. It's good to know that Asian Americans in Georgia are becoming more actively involved in politics, and according to this article about 2/3rds support Democratic candidates. So again, it appears obvious, that the results of this election will be all about turn out. Right now, it almost appears as if the Democrats are more enthusiastic about this election compared to the Republicans, especially the Republicans who are sulking about the Trump loss.
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Color me skeptical as all hell. Sure, there will be some trump-sulkers who stay home. But I strongly suspect that Trump also drove a huge part of Dem turnout in the general election. The really enthusiastic ones seem to be those who gleefully support the Perdues and Loefflers of the world and celebrate their blatant corruption as a right conferred upon avaricious white people.
 
I am not predicting the outcome of the upcoming run off election. I'm just reporting on what's going on in Georgia.

Today we received two pieces of mail related to the election. One piece was from a Democrat. The letter came from Hartford, Connecticut, asking me to vote my beliefs, while mentioning UHC. It gave me instructions on how to vote in Georgia. :rolleyes:

The other piece of mail was from the Republicans. Did it say a single thing about the Republican platform? No! Did it mention the names of the two Republican candidates? No. Instead it had a big, photo of Warnock. Below the photo it read: "WITH WARNOCK IN THE DRIVERS SEAT ....SOCIALISM IS CLOSER THAN IT MAY APPEAR" :eek: Oh noes. I'm scared. :D Considering the all caps and the ....it reminded me of a Trump tweet. :glare:

On the other side of the paper it said that Warnock supports a radical economic plan that would cost Georgia families up to $65,000 a year in new taxes. :eek: Warnock supports a socialist takeover of our healthcare system which would cancel all private insurance and could double your taxes. :eek: Warnock supports a socialist takeover of the economy which would kill hundreds of thousands of Georgia jobs. :eek: OMG! People in Georgia will be paying way more in taxes than they make. :D

Well, first of all, the majority of Georgians don't even make 65K a year. Secondly, a lot of people in Georgia don't even have health insurance to lose. And, how many people are dumb enough to think that if Warnock is elected, our capitalist economy will result in pure socialism? Don't answer that. We might have enough idiots here that believe this shit. These crazy lies are all that the Republicans have. I've never seen a candidate not mention their own name or plans, but instead try to make their opponent look really scary.

It's really sad that the Republicans can only resort to nonsensical scare tactics to try and win this election. With over a month to go, I predict that my recycle basket will be full of Republican junk mail. This is really crazy. I'm also hoping this will backfire on them, since it's obvious that they don't have an original thought or idea!
 
southernhybrid said:
I've never seen a candidate not mention their own name or plans, but instead try to make their opponent look really scary.
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Of course Trump can barely even form one of his incomplete sentences without mentioning himself, but the main thrust of his campaign in 2016 was how terrifying Hillary was. And it worked so well that in 2020 the main thrust of his campaign was... how terrifying Hillary was. She's not even black. Black people are REALLY scary to Republicans, and It would not surprise me in the least if that flyer succeeded in driving turnout.
 
So Ossoff is campaigning today at some vegan joint on Ralph David Abernathy.
[tweet]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Back in Atlanta, Democratic candidate for Senate Jon Ossoff kicks off a Small Business Saturday tour with a stop at Slutty Vegan, a vegan burger joint. “We got Jon Jon running for Senate in the building!” a staffer calls out as Ossoff enters, prompting cheers. <a href="https://t.co/UTjjCX8hjr">pic.twitter.com/UTjjCX8hjr</a></p>— DJ Judd (@DJJudd) <a href="https://twitter.com/DJJudd/status/1332737895229239297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/tweet]

I would think he and Dems in general already have a lock on both the vegan crowd and on the mostly black SW Atlanta. Would it not make more sense to try to reach other parts of the city and people not into veganism? What a missed opportunity!
 
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Derec said:
So Ossoff is campaigning today at some vegan joint on Ralph David Abernathy.
[tweet]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Back in Atlanta, Democratic candidate for Senate Jon Ossoff kicks off a Small Business Saturday tour with a stop at Slutty Vegan, a vegan burger joint. “We got Jon Jon running for Senate in the building!” a staffer calls out as Ossoff enters, prompting cheers. <a href="https://t.co/UTjjCX8hjr">pic.twitter.com/UTjjCX8hjr</a></p>— DJ Judd (@DJJudd) <a href="https://twitter.com/DJJudd/status/1332737895229239297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/tweet]

I would think he and Dems in general already have a lock on both the vegan crowd and on the mostly black SW Atlanta. Would it not make more sense to try to reach other parts of the city and people not into veganism? What a missed opportunity!
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Why would it not make sense for Ossoff to campaign in places where he might encourage people who are more likely to vote for him to actually get out and vote for him? It wouldn't make a lot of sense for Perdue to campaign at that restaurant, but your logic seems to suggest that it would. This election is really going to be about convincing potential supporters to vote in the runoff, since most people already voted for their candidate in the general election already. Now they need to get their base supporters back for another round.
 
Copernicus said:
Why would it not make sense for Ossoff to campaign in places where he might encourage people who are more likely to vote for him to actually get out and vote for him?
It wouldn't make a lot of sense for Perdue to campaign at that restaurant, but your logic seems to suggest that it would. This election is really going to be about convincing potential supporters to vote in the runoff, since most people already voted for their candidate in the general election already. Now they need to get their base supporters back for another round.
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No, that vegan joint is obviously a lost cause for Perdue, but I think both should try to persuade rather than merely trying to excite their bases. There are local non-chain restaurants in the northern parts of the city and the suburbs he could have visited during the "Small Business Sunday". Those are the neighborhoods where Trump lost most votes relative to 2016.
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So I do not think Slutty Vegan was great strategically but more importantly, this focus on turning out the already convinced base vs. trying to persuade people is not good for our political culture as it leads to even more polarization and people digging in ideologically. Ossoff will not find anybody he can try to persuade at Slutty Vegan. Warnock will not be able to find anybody to persuade at his church. They both need to go into more ideologically and demographically diverse settings.

Perdue's Waffle House outing may not have been the best idea ever, but compared to Slutty Vegan they have a much more diverse clientele.
 
Derec said:
So Ossoff is campaigning today at some vegan joint on Ralph David Abernathy.
[tweet]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Back in Atlanta, Democratic candidate for Senate Jon Ossoff kicks off a Small Business Saturday tour with a stop at Slutty Vegan, a vegan burger joint. “We got Jon Jon running for Senate in the building!” a staffer calls out as Ossoff enters, prompting cheers. <a href="https://t.co/UTjjCX8hjr">pic.twitter.com/UTjjCX8hjr</a></p>— DJ Judd (@DJJudd) <a href="https://twitter.com/DJJudd/status/1332737895229239297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/tweet]

I would think he and Dems in general already have a lock on both the vegan crowd and on the mostly black SW Atlanta. Would it not make more sense to try to reach other parts of the city and people not into veganism? What a missed opportunity!
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I fully expect all the candidates to address a variety of groups on a variety of topics over the coming weeks. One photo op in front of a receptive audience won't be his whole campaign.
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Derec, the state and the country are already extremely polarized, so I don't think you can blame Ossoff for not using his campaign to swim upstream of that trend. He is not going to persuade a lot of people to support him who haven't already formed an opinion. This is a RUNOFF election, so turnout is more important. Your campaign strategy sucks. I'm glad that Ossoff didn't hire you as campaign manager, even though you appear eager for the job.
 
I'm hoping that Trump's latest nonsense will keep the Trump supporters from voting in the run offs. I'm referring to the craziest of the Trump supporters.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/politics-blog/trump-on-kemp-im-ashamed-that-i-endorsed-him/TJAQCTZBRZD63JI3WEMR2JLPKA/

Mounting political strain between Gov. Brian Kemp and Donald Trump reached a new phase on Sunday when the president said he was “ashamed” that he endorsed the fellow Republican in a tight race for governor in 2018.


Trump’s remarks came during a Fox News interview on his false claims of rampant voter fraud in Georgia, which Joe Biden captured by less than 13,000 votes. Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger certified the vote on Nov. 20, refuting Trump’s claims, and hours later Kemp signed his approval.
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Trump is such a whiney little bitch, as Bill Maher once said.

During his Fox News interview, Trump repeated allegations of widespread fraud in Georgia and called Raffensperger a “disaster.” Those attacks, along with Trump’s insistence the election was “rigged,” have unnerved Republicans worried they could dampen GOP turnout in the runoffs.
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Keep a happy thought. Maybe these worried Republicans have a reason to be concerned. ( I hope )
 
Trumpo is an absolute moron, I hope he keeps frothing at the mouth until he's pushing up the proverbial daisies.

Maybe his input in Georgia will give dems control of the senate. Hey, a person can dream!
 
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