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It's Jury duty, bitches!. Not your father's jury duty.

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I can't count how many times I have heard someone piss and moan about receiving a summons for jury duty. There are some people who will not register to vote, because they think that will keep them off the list. It doesn't work, because they use DMV records. It's all different, now.

Today, a check came in the mail, in the amount of $12.96. The $12 was my pay for one day’s jury duty and the ninety six cents was for the mileage.
I think have been called for jury duty at least five times in my life. That’s an average of once every eight years, for the time I’ve been eligible for the civic duty. I’ve never actually served on a jury, but showing up on time is really what counts.

Apparently, jury duty is not what it used to be. The courthouse gang has taken a lesson from the Dental profession. Sometime long ago, dentists realized no one wanted to be a dentist’s patient. The reasons are obvious, it hurts. Dentists took up the challenge and a modern dental patient will be doped and drugged until they can’t feel their toenails, and only then is the dentist ready to work.
I was not expecting jury duty to hurt, but I never expected it to be fun. I drove downtown and parked in the city parking garage. My jury was with the 19th Judicial District, which is a State Court. On the way to the State Courthouse, I passed the City Courthouse. There was a line of people on the steps, waiting to enter. A Deputy was singing an operatic aria about cellphones, and how no phone would be allowed in the building.

When I entered the State Courthouse, there was no line at the door. I entered the building and saw a small crowd. They were all putting their cellphones in baskets and waltzing through the metal detectors, and then collected their phones.
I was directed to the jury room, which is a large auditorium that holds about 600 people. The Chief Jury lady appeared and cheerfully welcomed everyone. She asked for all college students to come sit on the aisle. She proceeded to explain that cellphones and laptops were allowed, but no newspapers. She recognized the fact that every cellphone contains a camera and said, “If your cellphone doesn’t have a camera, you need a new phone.” That set the tone for the morning.

Next, she introduced Judge Wilson Fields, who proceeded to do a twenty minute standup comedy routine. He started off by announcing that college students were exempt from jury duty, then added, “if you have all A’s.” After quizzing them about their grade point average, he admitted the 4.0 thing was a joke and told them they could leave. He had a few other jokes and tried one clairvoyant trick, which didn’t work very well, before he left.

The Chief Jury lady made a call for all those who thought they had a hardship and couldn’t serve. A line of about a dozen people formed along the wall. The first four people were released with no argument, which encouraged others. About 50 people were heard and sent home.
She explained that we would see movies while we waited and those who didn’t want to watch the movie were welcome to stay in the lounge, where there were books and magazines for their use. She said we could take a book home and would appreciate it if we could bring books to leave in the lounge.

The lights were turned down and we watched a short video about jury duty. Various judges explained how the whole process worked. They stressed that although we were allowed to have our cellphones, under no circumstances, should we post on facebook about anything happening in the courthouse. Absolutely nothing. This was reinforced with a cautionary tale about a young woman who posted pics of the trial on facebook. A court employee was on her friends list and promptly ratted her out. The poor girl spent two nights in jail. We heard that story three separate times, just to get the point across.

After the video, Chief Jury lady continued to explain jury stuff, but would pause to call a name and a number. When that person stood up, she said, “You’re excused. You can go.” This got everyone’s attention, which was the point. Everybody was listening. This continued with a couple minutes of jury stuff, and another person got to leave. After another 15 minutes of this, she finally revealed what was going on. A civil case had been settled and the trial was canceled. Three more people were released and then she called my name and number. I can’t say what happened after that. I was back on the street by eleven. That’s worth $12.96 and I won’t be called for another two years.
 
I'm one of the rare people that actually look forward to Jury Duty. The lawyers started picking potential jurors off. Then all of a sudden, I'm in the jury box. This'll be cool!! I was in the box and was going to be on the jury, but then I was cut loose by the prosecution team with one of their bullshit arbitrary juror removals picks. I was crushed. Instead of saying I'm an engineer, next time I'll say, I'm a professional undecided voter.
 
I've sat through selection a couple times. They usually excuse anyone with a college degree. The people I saw chosen were all middle aged housewives and unemployed men.
 
Thank you for your service. I have been registered to vote (here it is the pool) for 30 years. I have never been called and all of my jobs (corporate or public) pay full wages for duty. It would be rare that I am picked because of my cerebral palsy (extremely mild) makes me understand differing interior realities.
 
I have never served on a Jury, although I have been called a couple of times.

I would certainly serve if required, and make no attempt to be excused, because I like to think that if I were wrongfully accused, I would be tried before a jury of people not all of whom were so dumb that they couldn't think of a way to get out of jury duty.
 
I've been called once, served once. It was very interesting, and I enjoyed the three days of service, although the case was regarding possession of child pornography, which was a bit disquieting. Fortunately we didn't have to see any of the porn to determine if the accused actually possessed it.

Four-fifths of the time the jury was actually on duty, we were shuffled off to a room in the back while the lawyers and the judge hashed things out in the courtroom where we couldn't hear. On the third day, the accused took a plea bargain, so we didn't get to deliberate and render a verdict.
 
I have been summoned to Jury Duty a few times, however, as a teacher, I am generally excused. Here, we get a letter notifying us of our potential requirement and are asked to respond if we are not available. Principals will then write letters along the lines of 'replacing Gaynor would be detrimental to the continuing academic success of her class' or other such bullshit, and I am never called up.

I would like to do it though, particularly as I have an interest in crime.
 
Served one time. This black dude is facing a half dozen felony counts. But the video clearly showed he was innocent of at least four of the charges, so we figured he must be innocent of the other two that took place off camera. Short story is the police got heavy handed and incited a brawl, then filed all these charges to cover their fuckup. Don't know what would have happened without the video, but was glad to serve justice.

One of the jurors was a female minister. She was the last to be convinced, a real nitpicker, missing the forest for the trees.
 
I am of two minds, and like the discordance of a schizophrenic, I hold two separate and opposing opinions, one representative of a good citizen eager to play my dutiful part and the other, scorn by the cold that can follow in the wake of judicial process.

She had a beautiful house, with a beautiful porch, and even a cute little mailbox, all situated in a nice neighborhood in a community that she loved. Helpful, friendly, kind. Hungry? Not around her. You can be a stranger looking for the nearest post office and she'd cut her sandwich in half and offer it to you. Lady, I'm just looking to get some stamps and mail some letters. Maybe so, but I'll be damned if she'll let you go hungry doing it. The kind of person who would help the bag boy at the grocery store load bags in ANOTHER persons car. Never seen her give the clothes off her back, but then again, she is a blue-eyed 130 pound blonde--but ask her for her shirt, she'd be like superwoman in the nearest phone booth, changing--and have you not only her shirt but probably a snack and fruit juice to boot.

Works oversees. Doesn't get mail. Left on day 1. Remember that mailbox I mentioned earlier? She works. Let me tell you where. I mentioned it already. I'll mention it again. She works oversees. She left for work one day. We'll call it day 1, and that's the day she left for work. On day 22, she was sent a summons to appear for jury duty. On day 23, her mailbox gladly lowered her lid and welcomed that dainty little summons. Notice that I never once said she received it. She was oversees. Her mailbox stayed behind and tended to some small lightweight maintenance work near the highway. Dependable little (and cute) mailbox.

She's the only person I know who would have flown back, had she known she could have helped her community by following the instructions on that paper her mailbox kept warm for her.

She never showed up. Another letter came. One thing led to another. A warrant was issued for her arrest. Day 172, she arrived back to the states in a plane. The plane had wings. Most of them do I suppose. I just wanted to add that in there. Her plane she rode in (the one with wings) didn't land at her house. That's not because it didn't have landing gear. It not only had wings; it had landing gear too. It's just that this plane (with wings and landing gear, and even passengers too!) landed at the airport.

All of this, I'm sure, must be making some kind of sense. There was a road check between the airport and her porch. She stopped as the vast majority of us would. They took her to jail. There was a bench warrant for her arrest. Standard procedure. Hand cuffs, the whole nine yards. This is all making sense right?

Did you know, I know, and I have known for awhile, but did you know that it doesn't matter if you receive a summons? That's not what matters. What matters is whether they sent one. It's kind of like a right to cure letter in the finance world. It doesn't make a damn if you get what is sent. What matters is whether it was sent.

Oh, and the summons was sent. Her mailbox is a rat. She thought she had a mailbox she could trust, and she was right. Her mailbox told the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The mailbox even spoke about how the friendly mail person took all the mail back for safe keeping.

A night in jail.

Can you believe she asked for a second breakfast just so she could share it with someone. Done gave hers away!

I don't want to live where she lives, but then again, I'm apparently the one that is twisted. If you can't already tell by the writing style and content, recall my opening line about being of two minds. So, should I not want to live by such a person who clearly broke enough of a law that it led to handcuffs and bars, and if so, is it her or the laws?

Okay, that's enough of the fantasy story. The point is that it's very disheartening to want to do what I have a duty to do in face of threat. I actually have an inner core desire to be the kind of person that wants to do my civic duty, but have you read the outrageousness of the explicit written warnings and consequences of failing to do so? Poor attitude, on my part, has never been a function of wanting to skirt responsibility. It's a function of twisted presentation, kind of like this post.
 
I used to get called almost once a year but haven't been called in a few years.

In the 8 or 10 times I have been called I have only served on an actual jury once, and it was a local jury where some kid ran red light. Only case that day. 80 or 90 people called plus judge, bailiff, etc. What a colossal waste of resources.

I was like #3 in the order and the kid was representing himself so I knew I was screwed. Generally it's all in your number. If you are #34 and they're picking 12 you have about 0% chance of getting picked. If you are #8 you either get dismissed or you're going to serve. I think I've been in the zone of getting picked and been dismissed a couple times.

Anyway, it was like a 20 minute trial and it turned out to be a positive in that I was called by the county a few months later and having served on a local jury within the past year was a valid out.

The big joke here is that they pay you $10 per day but parking at the courthouse is $15.
 
I had a friend who had been called 4 times before she was 26.

I hadn't been called in all my 56 years and was curious about the process and about why I hadn't been called. Then last year I got the letter, just as I was about to leave for a job in QLD. That wouldn't have been an acceptable reason for not presenting on the day but it turned out that living more than 60 ks from the court exempted me if I wanted.

Still curious.
 
I have been summoned to Jury Duty a few times, however, as a teacher, I am generally excused.
My wife was called once. She mentioned that she taught 10th Grade English, defense asked "What school?" Then what years? Then, did she recognize the name Joe Criminal. Oh, yeah, he was one of hers.
She was just about to get dismissed when the judge jokingly asked what the guy's grade was. Defense went ballistic about prejudicial testimony outside of the actual trial. While they were screaming at each other, the bailiff nodded and she made her escape.

I've showed up for duty three times. They call my name, I stand up, putting my bookmark back in place, and the tell me to sit down again. They never even ask for the book's title.
 
...What a colossal waste of resources...
That was my take as well. I kept thinking, "Did the judge or did anyone watch this video?" Because if they had it seemed the charges would have been dropped or amended.

Ideally our courts are paces where all parties can come together, present evidence, figure out what happened and then come to some resolution. In actuality they are seldom that. They're more contests of ego and procedures.

The only reason I was chosen as a juror is because I had absolutely no exposure to the incident in question owing to my not watching television, local news or reading newspapers. The incident was a couple years old and had apparently made local headlines for quite a while.
 
...What a colossal waste of resources...
That was my take as well. I kept thinking, "Did the judge or did anyone watch this video?" Because if they had it seemed the charges would have been dropped or amended.

Ideally our courts are paces where all parties can come together, present evidence, figure out what happened and then come to some resolution. In actuality they are seldom that. They're more contests of ego and procedures.

The only reason I was chosen as a juror is because I had absolutely no exposure to the incident in question owing to my not watching television, local news or reading newspapers. The incident was a couple years old and had apparently made local headlines for quite a while.

Well, in my case it was that there were 80 odd people summoned to the courthouse on a work day when the only trial that day was some 18 year old kid who wanted to try to get out of a $65 ticket by presenting an incoherent defense for running a red light. I suppose somebody told him the cop may not show up or something. Thousands of dollars of people's time. $65 ticket.
 
I've been called a few times. Once I didn't live in the area anymore, a few times I ended up not having to report, only once have I actually gone down to the courthouse. Something like 11 o'clock they kicked loose all of us still in the room.

They're a lot more obsessive about calling my wife. IIRC she was called twice before she was even eligible and they've been pretty persistent since--and they don't get it that her English isn't up to that sort of situation (and the idiot automated system treats "speaks English" as a binary state), nor could they ever remember that she was exempt, anyway. (Although the law was recently changed, professional exemptions are now gone.) At least now she has an age-based exemption that the website understands.
 
I always love being called for jury duty.

I never got to sit on a jury though.

The best time was the time I took off from work, got dressed, got downtown. I was at the courthouse by 8 am. By 8:02 am, I was dismissed, and I was back home in bed by 9 am with a full day off, and didn't have to use my vacation or sick time. :)

But these days, you can't get away with that.

With the threat of violence if large crowds gather, nowadays you get a letter telling you to call in at a certain time. When your time comes, you call the number. If they're all filled up, that's it, you don't have to go in. You're done and didn't even have to go in. Bet that saved the state millions of dollars in bus fare and money for mileage.

Downside is, you still go to work.
 
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