January 6 Hearings Live

[ideologyhunter]

I think I just saw a basket of deplorables.

 

[lpetrich]

Barbara Lee on Twitter: "Every Capitol Police officer who played a role in last week’s attack should be fired — not suspended." / Twitter

Maggie Haberman on Twitter: "The White House is expecting roughly two dozen defections among Republicans who will vote to support impeachment, a senior administration official said https://t.co/wOovOn6ZyO" / Twitter

Pamela Colloff on Twitter: "Trump visited Texas today, but none of our state’s top Republican leadership—Governor Greg Abbott, Lt. Governor Dan Patrick, Sen. John Cornyn, Sen. Ted Cruz—made a single mention of it on Twitter.

Abbott’s last three tweets are about snow." / Twitter


Donna Imam on Twitter: ""Our ancestors sacrificed their blood...are you willing to do the same?" — @RepMoBrooks

Blaming Trump is not enough. The House must expel Reps that willfully incited violence right before the storming of the Capitol. GOP Reps are responsible for deaths. (link)" / Twitter

Rep. Pramila Jayapal on Twitter: "Wear a damn mask! https://t.co/rTEvdZiX0q" / Twitter

 

[lpetrich]

Eric Lipton on Twitter: "GIZMODO: (TALK ABOUT EVIDENCE>>>) Parler included geolocating data on posts by its users. Someone then legally grabbed the giant load of data before Parler went offline. Now it has been mapped on day of riot to spots inside the Capitol (link) via @gizmodo" / Twitter
noting
Parler Users Video GPS Data Shows Involvement in Capitol Attack

In an interview Monday, @donk_enby said she began to archive posts from Parler the day of the siege, documenting what she described as “very incriminating” evidence linked to a mob of Parler users on the Hill. When it later became clear that Amazon intended to expel the app from its servers, she expanded her efforts to vacuum up the entirety of its content.

According to @donk_enby, more than 99% of all Parler posts, including millions of videos bearing the locations of users, were saved. Unlike most of its competitors, Parler apparently had no mechanism in place to strip sensitive metadata from its users’ videos prior to posting them online.

The FBI and other such agencies will likely find this data very helpful.

"Among the 20 arrests so far, a Colorado man who allegedly brought guns and hundreds of rounds of ammunition with him to Washington, saying he wanted to murder Pelosi."

 

[Keith&Co.]

The FBI and other such agencies will likely find this data very helpful.

Imagine a historian who could access thst sort of tracking data of something like Little Bighorn, Gettysburg, Pompeii.
"You can see that at this point of the eruption, the rich were gathering on patios, probably looking up, maybe wondering how this would affect the next day's orgy. Over here, though, the working class were hauling ass."

Someone's going to do a paper on "My Day At The Capitol: A Story In Forty Six Selfies, Three Mug Shots, A Court Artist's Sketch, And a Self-Portrait Prison Tattoo."

 

[Worldtraveller]

'Hate in their heart': Lawmakers fear more violence after Capitol attacks - POLITICO

After freshman GOP Rep. Nancy Mace announced she would be opposing President Donald Trump’s bid to overturn the election, the single mother of two feared so much for her life that she applied for a concealed carry permit and sent her kids hundreds of miles from D.C.

Democratic Rep. Al Green received police assistance at two airports on his trip home last week, after pro-Trump travelers harassed him at his gates in Nashville and Houston.

Another GOP House member flew home expecting to be greeted by concerned constituents after he endured the attack last week. Instead, what he and GOP colleagues heard chilled them to the core: “Do you think that Congress got the message?”

Huh, gop members you say?

I'm going to reserve judgement to see how they voted on the first impeachment, when they had a chance to do their job.

Just kidding. I know how they voted. This is just reaping what they sowed.

 

[lpetrich]

NPR Politics on Twitter: "JUST IN: The Justice Department has opened ..." / Twitter

JUST IN: The Justice Department has opened more than 170 cases into last week’s riot by pro-Trump extremists at the U.S. Capitol, Michael Sherwin, the acting U.S. attorney, said, adding they expect to investigate "hundreds" more. Sherwin called the Capitol an active crime scene and noted that the Justice Department is looking at “significant felony cases tied to sedition and conspiracy.” Charges being considered against the protesters include trespassing, theft of mail, theft of digital devices, and assault on officers, Sherwin said.

He said the charges “are only the beginning … not the end.”

Jake Tapper on Twitter: "Has even one of the GOP officials or MAGA media who spread the election lies, or supported Sedition, or incited the mob, publicly expressed an ounce of regret or contrition?

Asking for a democracy." / Twitter

Ryan Nobles on Twitter: "RIGHT NOW-> Congresswoman Lauren Boebert, who has bragged about her desire to carry a weapon on Capital Hill is currently in a standoff with Capitol Police at the newly installed Metal Detectors outside the chamber doors." / Twitter

Some other Republicans have objected to these metal detectors: Tensions flare between House Republicans, Capitol Police over metal detectors | TheHill

 

[SLD]

NPR Politics on Twitter: "JUST IN: The Justice Department has opened ..." / Twitter

JUST IN: The Justice Department has opened more than 170 cases into last week’s riot by pro-Trump extremists at the U.S. Capitol, Michael Sherwin, the acting U.S. attorney, said, adding they expect to investigate "hundreds" more. Sherwin called the Capitol an active crime scene and noted that the Justice Department is looking at “significant felony cases tied to sedition and conspiracy.” Charges being considered against the protesters include trespassing, theft of mail, theft of digital devices, and assault on officers, Sherwin said.

He said the charges “are only the beginning … not the end.”

Jake Tapper on Twitter: "Has even one of the GOP officials or MAGA media who spread the election lies, or supported Sedition, or incited the mob, publicly expressed an ounce of regret or contrition?

Asking for a democracy." / Twitter

Ryan Nobles on Twitter: "RIGHT NOW-> Congresswoman Lauren Boebert, who has bragged about her desire to carry a weapon on Capital Hill is currently in a standoff with Capitol Police at the newly installed Metal Detectors outside the chamber doors." / Twitter

Some other Republicans have objected to these metal detectors: Tensions flare between House Republicans, Capitol Police over metal detectors | TheHill

It isn’t enough to convict the rioters. We must go after their leaders. This did not happen in a vacuum. It happened because Republican leaders instigated this. Going after fur boy and Viking boy is like prosecuting a Mafia soldier And ignoring the capo di tutti capi. We need to hold the entire fascist Republican Party accountable.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Going after fur boy and Viking boy is like prosecuting a Mafia soldier .

Mafia soldiers will take 20 years in solitary before turning on their leaders.
Fur-boy is going to sell out everyone up to Baby Jesus for some organic steaks by Thursday. Maybe not Mommy...

But zip-ties' Mom will sing like a canary if it brings her boy home any faster.

 

[lpetrich]

AOC in her Instagram Live broadcast last night - she's aoc at instagram.com - described how she didn't feel safe around some of the Capitol Police and some of her fellow Congresspeople.

‘It was like looking at evil’: The Capitol attack through the eyes of the Massachusetts delegation - The Boston Globe

For days, Massachusetts lawmakers said, they and their colleagues had received assurances from police that security would be tight and that they would be shielded from the masses as Trump continued to spout lies and conspiracies, refusing to concede his loss in November. But incited by Trump’s words, the rally morphed into a protest that escalated into an armed insurrection to overturn the election, rattling the world and now embroiling lawmakers in efforts to try to remove Trump from office in his final days.

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Because of multiple death threats over the past two years, running through safety drills and threat scenarios has become routine at Pressley’s office, said Sarah Groh, her chief of staff. Groh, Pressley, and her husband had planned to wait in Pressley’s D.C. apartment until later in the afternoon. That changed as the House sergeant-at-arms pressured lawmakers to come sooner, warning the crowds could get too thick to safely escort them in.

“I was deeply concerned,” Groh said of going to the Capitol complex. “It felt like the heat was being turned up in terms of the rhetoric and Trump’s aims to incite violence.”

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“It was a horrific day,” McGovern said. “I just assumed that the noise we were hearing outside the chamber was just a handful of people. I couldn’t imagine that entire mob could gain access to the Capitol.”

As people rushed out of other buildings on the Capitol grounds, staffers in Pressley’s office barricaded the entrance with furniture and water jugs that had piled up during the pandemic. Groh pulled out gas masks and looked for the special panic buttons in the office.

“Every panic button in my office had been torn out — the whole unit,” she said, though they could come up with no rationale as to why. She had used them before and hadn’t switched offices since then. As they were escorted to several different secure locations, Groh and Pressley and her husband tried to remain calm and vigilant — not only of rioters but of officers they did not know or trust, she said.

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On the Senate floor later that night, Senator Elizabeth Warren spoke of the failed presidential runs she and her colleagues had experienced.

”We didn’t throw temper tantrums,” she said of their election losses. “We didn’t feed poisonous propaganda to our supporters. We didn’t urge people to march on state capitals or to descend on Washington. We accepted the will of the voters.”

 

[TomC]

Fur-boy is going to sell out everyone up to Baby Jesus for some organic steaks by Thursday. Maybe not Mommy...

I remember a suggestion made once. The goal was to punish prison miscreants, usually in solitary confinement. It was called "prison loaf".

The recipe was just a bit of meat, some vegetable, some dairy and some bread. Put it in a blender. Bake until it's safe to eat. Wait until it's room temperature, then feed the prisoner. The blandest, most tasteless possible form of nutrition.
I'm sure that an organic version could easily be produced. Delivered by a guard who wonders out loud, "I wonder how many staff spit in that?"
Tom

 

[lpetrich]

NPR Politics on Twitter: "JUST IN: The Justice Department has opened ..." / Twitter

JUST IN: The Justice Department has opened more than 170 cases into last week’s riot by pro-Trump extremists at the U.S. Capitol, Michael Sherwin, the acting U.S. attorney, said, adding they expect to investigate "hundreds" more. Sherwin called the Capitol an active crime scene and noted that the Justice Department is looking at “significant felony cases tied to sedition and conspiracy.” Charges being considered against the protesters include trespassing, theft of mail, theft of digital devices, and assault on officers, Sherwin said.

He said the charges “are only the beginning … not the end.”

Jake Tapper on Twitter: "Has even one of the GOP officials or MAGA media who spread the election lies, or supported Sedition, or incited the mob, publicly expressed an ounce of regret or contrition?

Asking for a democracy." / Twitter


Ocasio-Cortez says she thought she 'was going to die' in 'close encounter' during Capitol rioting | TheHill

"I did not know if I was going to make it to the end of that day alive," Ocasio-Cortez said in a video on her Instagram account. "Not just in a general sense, but in a very, very specific sense."

Ocasio-Cortez said she could not divulge details of the encounter "due to security concerns," but assured followers "I thought I was going to die."

AOC On Capitol Attack: "I Thought I Was Going To Die"

Ocasio-Cortez said members of Congress "nearly and narrowly escaped death" during the riot. She praised the work of individual Capitol Police officers, particularly officers of color, but also brought up "acts of betrayal."

"To run in the Capitol and not know if an officer is there to help you or to harm you is also quite traumatizing," she said.

During her livestream, Ocasio-Cortez spoke at length about the attempted coup, asking what the end game of political nihilism is. "What claim will you have? That you rule over a destroyed society? That the ashes belong to you?"

She also called out Sens. Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz, who led the Senate push to try to overturn the election results after the Capitol riot, saying they "cast that vote not out of genuine belief" but out of "political ambition."

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

AOC On Capitol Attack: "I Thought I Was Going To Die"

Ocasio-Cortez said members of Congress "nearly and narrowly escaped death" during the riot. She praised the work of individual Capitol Police officers, particularly officers of color, but also brought up "acts of betrayal."

"To run in the Capitol and not know if an officer is there to help you or to harm you is also quite traumatizing," she said.

During her livestream, Ocasio-Cortez spoke at length about the attempted coup, asking what the end game of political nihilism is. "What claim will you have? That you rule over a destroyed society? That the ashes belong to you?"

She also called out Sens. Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz, who led the Senate push to try to overturn the election results after the Capitol riot, saying they "cast that vote not out of genuine belief" but out of "political ambition."

If this did happen, we need some level of detail. Because there definitely seems to be two different parallel narratives of the Capitol riot, the seditionists and the selfies. There are people in this video that seem intent on seditious acts.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/AynRandPaulRyan/status/1349312406804025345[/TWEET]

 

[TomC]

If this did happen, we need some level of detail. Because there definitely seems to be two different parallel narratives of the Capitol riot, the seditionists and the selfies.

I don't think it's that complex.

The mob that stormed the Capitol was huge.
Some were violent seditious folks. Some were ignorant, self absorbed, "selfies".

The most treasonous criminals blended in to the merely stupid ignoramuses. Sorting them will be a task.

But no matter how stupid the ignoramuses are, they chose this. They're also guilty of treason.

Tom

 

[Keith&Co.]

Fur-boy is going to sell out everyone up to Baby Jesus for some organic steaks by Thursday. Maybe not Mommy...

I remember a suggestion made once. The goal was to punish prison miscreants, usually in solitary confinement. It was called "prison loaf".

The recipe was just a bit of meat, some vegetable, some dairy and some bread. Put it in a blender. Bake until it's safe to eat. Wait until it's room temperature, then feed the prisoner. The blandest, most tasteless possible form of nutrition.
I'm sure that an organic version could easily be produced. Delivered by a guard who wonders out loud, "I wonder how many staff spit in that?"
Tom

oh, wouldn't need thst. That'd be unprofessional. He'd probably whine that he was being treated like an immigrant, or a BLM protestor.
No, just, "Here. Special dietary restrictions menu. You want the Kosher version, the Hindu, Jainist, or Halal? Ha ha, just kidding. It's all Halal."

 

[lpetrich]

'I saw my life flash before my eyes': An oral history of the Capitol attack | TheHill

Hawley, Cruz face rising anger, possible censure | TheHill
Some Congresspeople, like AOC, want them expelled.

Trump told Pence he could be a 'patriot' or 'p----' when overseeing election vote: report | TheHill
noting
Mike Pence Reached His Limit With Trump. It Wasn’t Pretty. - The New York Times - "After four years of tongue-biting silence that critics say enabled the president’s worst instincts, the vice president would not yield to the pressure and name-calling from his boss."

“You can either go down in history as a patriot,” Mr. Trump told him, according to two people briefed on the conversation, “or you can go down in history as a pussy.”

The blowup between the nation’s two highest elected officials then played out in dramatic fashion as the president publicly excoriated the vice president at an incendiary rally and sent agitated supporters to the Capitol where they stormed the building — some of them chanting “Hang Mike Pence.”

Evacuated to the basement, Mr. Pence huddled for hours while Mr. Trump tweeted out an attack on him rather than call to check on his safety.

And MP won't use the 25th Amendment on Trump.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

If this did happen, we need some level of detail. Because there definitely seems to be two different parallel narratives of the Capitol riot, the seditionists and the selfies.

I don't think it's that complex.

The mob that stormed the Capitol was huge.
Some were violent seditious folks. Some were ignorant, self absorbed, "selfies".

The most treasonous criminals blended in to the merely stupid ignoramuses. Sorting them will be a task.

But no matter how stupid the ignoramuses are, they chose this. They're also guilty of treason.

Tom

But the issue at the moment is that we don't know what happened moment by moment. The seditionists actions have been veiled by the idiots taking photos, podiums, and mail. So the Selfies actions are documented. They appear to be still obtaining information on the seditionists.

 

[Keith&Co.]

And MP won't use the 25th Amendment on Trump.

MP still wants to some day get the votes of those Republicans who retain the freedom to participate in the democratic process.

 

[lpetrich]

Storming The U.S. Capitol Was About Maintaining White Power In America | FiveThirtyEight

It is not by chance that most of the individuals who descended on the nation’s capital were white, nor is it an accident that they align with the Republican Party and this president. Moreover, it is not a coincidence that symbols of white racism, including the Confederate flag, were present and prominently displayed. Rather, years of research make clear that what we witnessed in Washington, D.C., is the violent outgrowth of a belief system that argues that white Americans and leaders who assuage whiteness should have an unlimited hold on the levers of power in this country. And this, unfortunately, is what we should expect from those whose white identity is threatened by an increasingly diverse citizenry.

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In a famous essay from 1958 on the topic, entitled “Race Prejudice as a Sense of Group Position,” Herbert Blumer, a noted sociologist, wrote the following:

There are four basic types of feeling that seem to be always present in race prejudice in the dominant group. They are (1) a feeling of superiority, (2) a feeling that the subordinate race is intrinsically different and alien, (3) a feeling of proprietary claim to certain areas of privilege and advantage, and (4) a fear and suspicion that the subordinate race harbors designs on the prerogatives of the dominant race.

In effect, many white people are concerned that they will be treated the way that they seem to think nonwhites ought to be treated.

Larry Bartels's research:

The support expressed by many Republicans for violations of a variety of crucial democratic norms is primarily attributable not to partisan affect, enthusiasm for President Trump, political cynicism, economic conservatism, or general cultural conservatism, but to what I have termed ethnic antagonism. The single survey item with the highest average correlation with antidemocratic sentiments is not a measure of attitudes toward Trump, but an item inviting respondents to agree that “discrimination against whites is as big a problem today as discrimination against blacks and other minorities.” Not far behind are items positing that “things have changed so much that I often feel like a stranger in my own country,” that immigrants get more than their fair share of government resources, that people on welfare often have it better than those who work for a living, that speaking English is “essential for being a true American,” and that African-Americans “need to stop using racism as an excuse.”

I've seen many right-wingers talk about welfare recipients as if they are living in great luxury.

Back to the Capitol attackers.

Instead, we must characterize them as they are: They are a dangerous mob of grievous white people worried that their position in the status hierarchy is threatened by a multiracial coalition of Americans who brought Biden to power and defeated Trump, whom back in 2017 Ta-Nehisi Coates called the first white president. Making this provocative point, Coates wrote, “It is often said that Trump has no real ideology, which is not true — his ideology is white supremacy, in all its truculent and sanctimonious power.” So, when we think about those who gathered in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday and who will surely continue their advance in opposition to democratic rule, let it not be lost on us that they do not simply come in defense of Donald Trump. They come in defense of white supremacy.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[lpetrich]

I've found some articles on the Weimar-Republic sort of response of police officers. I use that name because it ruthlessly crushed left-wing rebellions like the Bavarian Soviet Republic, while being wimpy toward right-wing rebellions like the Kapp Putsch and the Beer Hall Putsch.

Why Police Aggression Is Far More Pronounced Against Left-Leaning Protesters | FiveThirtyEight - podcast

The Police’s Tepid Response To The Capitol Breach Wasn’t An Aberration | FiveThirtyEight

As images from Wednesday’s riot by pro-Trump extremists at the U.S. Capitol filled our TV screens and social media feeds, one thing was notably absent: the kind of confrontation between police and protesters that we saw during the Black Lives Matter protests last summer. Even though the Capitol mob was far more violent — and seditious — than the largely peaceful BLM demonstrators, police responded far less aggressively toward them than toward BLM protesters across the country. Researchers who track this sort of thing for a living say that fits a pattern.

nstead of National Guard troops being posted en masse around landmarks before a protest even began, we saw the Defense Department initially deny a request to send in troops — and that was after the Capitol had been breached. Instead of peaceful protesters being doused in tear gas, we saw a mob posing for selfies with police and being allowed to wander the corridors of power like they couldn’t decide whether they were invading the Capitol or touring it. Instead of President Trump calling these violent supporters “thugs,” as he called racial justice protesters, and advocating for more violent police crackdowns, we saw him remind his followers that they were loved before asking them nicely to go home.

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But in 2020, Kishi’s ACLED — a data-reporting project that began documenting armed conflicts and protests in African nations — extended its work into the United States.

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Between May 1 and November 28, 2020, authorities were more than twice as likely to attempt to break up and disperse a left-wing protest1 than a right-wing2 one. And in those situations when law enforcement chose to intervene, they were more likely to use force — 34 percent of the time with right-wing protests compared with 51 percent of the time for the left. Given when this data was collected, it predominantly reflects a difference in how police respond to Black Lives Matter, compared with how they respond to anti-mask demonstrations, pro-Trump extremists, QAnon rallies, and militia groups.

The differences in intervention weren’t because BLM protests were particularly violent. ACLED found that 93 percent of the protests associated with BLM were entirely peaceful. “Even if we were to put those [7] percent of demonstrations aside and look purely at peaceful [BLM protests], we are seeing a more heavy handed response [compared with right-wing protests],” Kishi said.

Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement | Brennan Center for Justice -- noting a long history of soldiers and cops being members of militant far-right groups like the Ku Klux Klan.

“Protesters on the left virtually universally believe that police are rougher on them. And protesters on the right almost universally believe police are on their side,” researcher Ed Maguire noted. That was true in the Capitol attacks, when the attackers turned against the Capitol Police only after it became evident to them that the Capitol cops weren't all on their side.

So far-right militants are likely to get *very* nasty at cops who turn against them.

The police, meanwhile, he worries, are likely to see criticism of a lack of force in D.C. and respond with more force elsewhere — whether that be against right-wing or left-wing groups. “Every other police department facing an angry crowd will be concerned about being overrun, and overcorrecting in response to that concern may lead to overly forceful, unconstitutional responses.”

Violence, as they say, begets violence. And disparities in police force may well beget more disparities.