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With Disruption and Trolling, Greene Reflects G.O.P.’s Shift - The New York Times - "Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene said being booted from committees left more time for her to push her party to the right. She’s part of a new wave of lawmakers more interested in brand-building than lawmaking."
When Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene was expelled from her congressional committees as punishment for conspiracy mongering and violent statements, she embraced her exile, declaring that she had been “freed” from the obligation to participate in the drudgery of legislating.

“If I was on a committee, I’d be wasting my time,” said Ms. Greene, Republican of Georgia.

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Ms. Greene may be something of an outlier, but her reaction to her exile illustrated a new reality that has taken hold in Congress, most vividly in the new ranks of Republicans. A growing number of lawmakers have demonstrated less interest in the nitty-gritty passing of laws and more in using their powerful perches to build their own political brands and stoke outrage among their opponents.

The trend has contributed to the deep dysfunction on Capitol Hill, where viral moments of Republicans trying to troll their colleagues across the aisle — often in the mold of President Donald J. Trump, who delighted in being disruptive, often on social media — generate far more attention than legislative debate.
So Trump was the Troll in Chief. With his position, he was guaranteed attention, even if he often seemed like a big baby who throws temper tantrums. After Biden was inaugurated, however, several news-media outlets suffered sizable losses in readership and viewership. Seems like Joe Biden is being much like his former boss, "No Drama" Obama, complete with a shortage of lurid drama about his Presidency.
“If your motivation is to keep your head down, work hard to pass legislation, it’s harder than it used to be,” Corry Bliss, a veteran Republican strategist, said in an interview. “It seems more and more, the rewards are skewed toward going on television and being bombastic.”
Then Jimmy Gomez, who authored a resolution calling for the expulsion of MTG from Congress,
“I believe some of my Republican colleagues, and one in particular, wish harm upon this legislative body,” Mr. Gomez said. “I’m not saying this for shock value. It’s the conclusion I drew after a member of Congress advocated violence against our peers, the speaker and our government.”
 
QAnon Betty indicated support for executing prominent Democrats in 2018 and 2019 before running for Congress

In one post, from January 2019, Greene liked a comment that said "a bullet to the head would be quicker" to remove House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. In other posts, Greene liked comments about executing FBI agents who, in her eyes, were part of the "deep state" working against Trump.

In one Facebook post from April 2018, Greene wrote conspiratorially about the Iran Deal, one of former President Barack Obama's signature foreign policy achievements. A commenter asked Greene, "Now do we get to hang them ?? Meaning H & O ???," referring to Obama and Hillary Clinton.
Greene replied, "Stage is being set. Players are being put in place. We must be patient. This must be done perfectly or liberal judges would let them off."
 
Several long-time Republican Senators have stated that they will not seek re-election.
Their styles and records stand in sharp contrast to the new crop of lawmakers that appears to be more interested in waging culture wars than notching policy victories.

Representative Madison Cawthorn, a Republican freshman from North Carolina, told a colleague in an email reported by Time magazine that he had purposefully “built my staff around comms rather than legislation,” referring to communications.
Also, Lauren Boebert appearing in a Zoom meeting with a backdrop of guns.

A Newsmax interviewer asked MTG about what she hopes to accomplish.
“Maybe the world has changed, and it’s not just about crafting a new law, it’s about — what?” Mr. Kelly asked. “Gaining influence so — I don’t know — in two years or a year or six months, something else can happen?”

“People are pushing back because it’s not the way things are normally done in Washington,” Ms. Greene replied. “But business as usual in Washington has led us here. So clearly, their way of doing things isn’t what works.”
This isn't new. Newt Gingrich R-GA became a political celebrity in the 1980's with his bombastic speeches before C-SPAN's cameras. He once bragged "I am a famous person". But he was also a thought leader in his party.
 
"Even now, most lawmakers’ efforts to gather power on Capitol Hill revolve heavily around their seats on congressional committees, with members jealously guarding their assignments on powerful panels and using their perches to divert funds back home to their districts."

Congressmembers who get in the committee that controls gov't spending sometimes put in their Twitter bios "Appropriator".
These days, those clamoring to be known as the next great Republican policy wonk or master legislator are in the minority, while there are plenty of conservatives who say they want to be their party’s answer to Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Democrat of New York, a second-term progressive who has excelled at using social media to raise money and hurl barbs at political opponents.

While Ms. Ocasio-Cortez has used her platform to build support for a wide array of progressive policy priorities, those who emulate her may be more impressed with her nearly 13 million Twitter followers.

“RT & follow me please!” Ms. Greene tweeted in September, when she was running for Congress. “I want to catch up to the socialist Squad’s following!”
MTG has had a lot of success in making a celebrity out of herself in the right wing, raising $1.9 million after her expulsion from her House committees.
“Why raise money to advertise on the news channels when I can make the news?” Representative Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida, and the most vocal proponent of the influencer-legislator model, wrote in his book. “And if you aren’t making news, you aren’t governing.”
 
The right wing's big model is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and numerous right-wing politicians have presented themselves as the right wing's answer to her.
But Democrats like Ms. Ocasio-Cortez and Representative Katie Porter of California have built their profiles in part by doing the less glamorous tasks involved in legislating. Both routinely generate viral internet moments from their seats on committee daises by tearing into prominent technology and banking executives.

Ms. Ocasio-Cortez is known to bring her social media followers along for the ride, explaining how she prepares for the hearings and polling them for questions she should ask. Ms. Porter and her whiteboard have become a pop-culture phenomenon.

Even Mr. Gaetz, who is unabashed about his laser focus on getting himself on television, has his pet legislative priorities, working across the aisle to end military conflicts abroad and restrict presidential powers to wage new ones.
I actually agree with Rep. MG there.

Sen. Roy Blunt is now retiring, and he explains why he now seems out of place.
“I think the country in the last decade or so has sort of fallen off the edge with too many politicians saying, ‘If you vote for me, I’ll never compromise on anything,’” Mr. Blunt told reporters in Springfield, Mo., after he announced his retirement. “Rather than spending a lot of time saying what I’d never do, I’d spend more time saying what I’d try to do.’”
 
How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief - POLITICO
In just the past month, Sen. Ted Cruz self-consciously joked at the Conservative Political Action Conference about his ill-timed jaunt to Cancun, decried mask-wearing as pro-statist virtue signaling, and closed his speech by screaming “Freedom,” a la William Wallace; House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy tweeted a video of himself reading a Dr. Seuss book in protest of the supposed censorship of the children’s author (whose estate decided to stop publishing six titles on account of stereotypes in their illustrations); Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene erected a sign outside her congressional office in Washington declaring “There are TWO genders: MALE & FEMALE” across the hallway from the office of Democratic Rep. Marie Newman, whose daughter is transgender; even Rush Limbaugh, the late talk radio giant and progenitor of liberal “ownage,” got in one last braggadocious slap from beyond the grave: the occupation listed on his death certificate is “greatest radio host of all time.”

In one sense, this is the natural outgrowth of the Trump era. Inasmuch as there was a coherent belief that explained his agenda, it was lib-owning — whether that meant hobbling NATO, declining to disavow the QAnon conspiracy theory, floating the prospect of a fifth head on Mt. Rushmore (his, naturally), or using federal resources to combat the New York Times’ “1619 Project.”

But in a post-Trump America, to “own the libs” is less an identifiable act or set of policy goals than an ethos, a way of life, even a civic religion.

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And in a world where polarization driven by social media has equipped every smartphone-wielding American with a hammer, every political dispute looks like a nail. A year into the Covid-19 pandemic, viral videos of mask burnings and other forms of lockdown protest proliferate. The arch-conservative, troll-friendly webmagazine The Federalist more than doubles its traffic each year. Pro-Trump students are bending reformicon-minded College Republican groups to their will. In certain parts of the country, modified pickup trucks “roll coal,” spewing jet-black exhaust fumes into the air as a middle finger to environmentalists. Popular bootleg Trump campaign merchandise read simply: “Fuck your feelings.”
Conservatism had a notable representative in the past: William F. Buckley.
William F. Buckley, the National Review founder who relished making his foes look foolish on his long-running program “Firing Line,” and who, when asked why Robert F. Kennedy refused to appear on the program, famously responded with an impeccably troll-ish query of his own: “Why does bologna refuse the grinder?”

“Buckley had his version of ‘owning the libs,’ which was being more erudite and articulate than his interlocutors,” Goldberg says. “You take a certain satisfaction, sort of the ‘your tears are delicious’ kind of satisfaction.”
By comparison, the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Donald Trump are almost hopelessly uncouth.
Then-United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley made headlines when in the summer of 2018 she addressed a group of high schoolers attending a youth leadership summit George Washington University. “Raise your hand if you’ve ever posted anything online to quote-unquote ‘own the libs,’” Haley requested, leading many students to do so and burst into applause.

With the patience of a Nancy Reagan “just say no” speech, the ambassador admonished them that owning the libs is “fun and that it can feel good, but step back and think about what you’re accomplishing when you do this — are you persuading anyone? Who are you persuading? … We’ve all been guilty of it at some point or another, but this kind of speech isn’t leadership — it’s the exact opposite.”
A little earlier, at a Marco Rubio campaign rally in 2015, she stated "Donald Trump is everything I taught my children not to do in kindergarten". But she ended up becoming a diehard Trumpie, like so many of Trump's other critics.
 
Buckley never made anybody with half a brain look foolish.

Chomsky crushed him the one time Buckley had the courage to have him his show.

It was the first and last time Chomsky was invited.
 
[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Did Nancy Pelosi refuse security for the Capitol on January 6 because she knew what was coming, and wanted to put the blame on Trump? <a href="https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SpeakerPelosi</a> <a href="https://t.co/NHhndmhjVo">pic.twitter.com/NHhndmhjVo</a></p>— Dinesh D'Souza (@DineshDSouza) <a href="https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1362432092550873093?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 18, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

So...

According to D'Souza, Pelosi's entrapment was to see whether Trumpers would commit a crime?

Devious.
 
Your honor the supermarket enticed me to rob it at gunpoint because they did not have a security guard on duty.
 
Good thing for us this coup was a Trump operation.

A coup attempt it was.

But like all Trump efforts corrupt and headed by incompetence.

Yeah, a real coup requires the cooperation of the courts. A violent coup like this was bound to fail, even though they succeeded in occupying the Capitol for a brief period of time. The problem is that they own the courts for a long time in the foreseeable future. The future coup is going to be through voter suppression efforts that the courts will uphold as eminently reasonable, more gerrymandering to keep Republican majorities in Congress or in state legislatures, and even outright fraud. The only way to combat it is to challenge them hard. Protests, voter organizing, and fundraising are the tools to fight them. That includes boycotting businesses that support these assholes.

Who knows what would have happened had that violent mob of traitors caught Pence?

They kill Pence and a few others then who knows?

Flynn was calling for martial law. His brother was in a position of power.

It was an attempted coup that only failed by a few minutes.

A well organized attack of the capitol that almost worked. A close call like so much of history.

Very insightful--and the insurrectionists were also out to get Pelosi, the next in line for the VP.
 
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Buckley bests Chomsky on American involvement in Vietnam; however, Chomsky bests Buckley in his attempts to corner Chomsky with innuendoes of bad faith argumentation on Chomsky's part.
 
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Buckley bests Chomsky on American involvement in Vietnam; however, Chomsky bests Buckley in his attempts to corner Chomsky with innuendoes of bad faith argumentation on Chomsky's part.

Nonsense.

Buckley had his ass handed to him.

He was humiliated. And history shows him insanely wrong.
 
Buckley was wrong about American intervention in Vietnam, but he didn't let Chomsky get away with his unstated claim that it was right for the US to intervene in Fascist/ Nazi Europe, but wrong for it to intervene in the attempt of Communism--which Chomsky seemed to regard as benign and part of pre-existing Vietnamese society, to take over the society of an Asian country.
 
It was not some Nazi's invading.

It was a nation divided by Imperial powers and the US fighting to maintain that imperial relationship and exploit the South.

The US destroyed the South more than the North.

Killed Southern troops and civilians revolting against imperial rule.
 
New evidence suggests ‘alliance’ between Oath Keepers, Proud Boys ahead of Jan. 6 - POLITICO - evidence that they coordinated with each other.
A key member of the Oath Keepers militia told associates he had coordinated alliances with the Proud Boys and other paramilitary groups in advance of Donald Trump’s Jan. 6 rally, according to new evidence filed by the Justice Department.

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Kelly Meggs, the Florida leader of the Oath Keepers, said in private messages obtained by prosecutors that he’d been in touch repeatedly with Proud Boys leadership in particular. He said he had worked out a strategy to confront potential violence from antifa, a loosely organized collection of left-wing extremists. Meggs has been charged along with nine others with conspiring to stop Congress from certifying the 2020 election.

“This week I organized an alliance between Oath Keepers, Florida 3%ers, and Proud Boys,” Meggs wrote in a Dec. 19 message to an associate via Facebook. “We have decided to work together and shut this shit down.”

In Dec. 22 and Dec. 25 messages, Meggs got more specific, describing tactical maneuvers they would conduct with the Proud Boys if they encountered antifa: “We’re going to march with them for awhile then fall to the back of the crowd and turn off. Then we will have the Proud Boys get in front of them the cops will get between antifa and Proud Boys. We will come in behind antifa and beat the hell out of them.”
Eek. That shows what a close scrape the Jan. 6 attacks were.
 
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