Kamala the hypocrite

[Jolly_Penguin]

So arrest the seller or promoter, not the addict.

The Nordic model does the opposite. It arrests the buyers of sexual services, while the sellers go free. It's completely illogical position.

I really hope Kamala Harris does not end up going down that rabbit trail.

She's endorsed it in the past from what I heard. Maybe I heard wrong. Certainly hope so.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Addiction? I was talking about the nordic model of prostitution laws. The legal to sell but illegal to buy framework.

Oops! Sorry, but you are right about that. I was unfamiliar with the "Nordic model" terminology, which applies exclusively to prostitution. My bad. It sounded like a kind of ideal solution for drug addiction laws, but I see that my inference was off base.

Drug addiction is actually an interesting analogy. I think it could be argued that having sex with hookers is very addictive; hence the name "hooker". Guys get hooked on them. That actually goes for the whole sex industry. Its really sad how some guys "fall in love" with or truly get hooked on a sex worker or sex workers in general. And its amazing how good some of the girls get at messing with their heads.

That makes a willing self-employed prostitute both a "victim" and "pusher" in the eyes of different people. Maybe both in the eyes of some.

I am more in tune with Kamala Harris's actual position, which is that there is a good argument for government regulation of the market for sexual services. The main point is that it actually be a consensual relationship in which minors and adults are not exploited by third parties.

Absolutely agree with this. I hope she holds to this position. It would put you a step ahead of Canada, which did fall down the nordic model rabbit hole (though I don't think its being enforced).

 

[bilby]

Drug addiction is actually an interesting analogy. I think it could be argued that having sex with hookers is very addictive; hence the name "hooker". Guys get hooked on them. That actually goes for the whole sex industry. Its really sad how some guys "fall in love" with or truly get hooked on a sex worker or sex workers in general. And its amazing how good some of the girls get at messing with their heads.

That makes a willing self-employed prostitute both a "victim" and "pusher" in the eyes of different people. Maybe both in the eyes of some.

I am more in tune with Kamala Harris's actual position, which is that there is a good argument for government regulation of the market for sexual services. The main point is that it actually be a consensual relationship in which minors and adults are not exploited by third parties.

Absolutely agree with this. I hope she holds to this position. It would put you a step ahead of Canada, which did fall down the nordic model rabbit hole (though I don't think its being enforced).

The term 'hooker' has nothing to do with addiction. It almost certainly derives from the area known as Corlears Hook on Manhattan's lower east side, which was notorious for streetwalkers in the early 19th century.

It's popularly believed that the term originated with General Joseph Hooker, who was reputed to have provided brothels for his troops; However the earliest use of the term pre-dates General Hooker's military service.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

The term 'hooker' has nothing to do with addiction.

Oh I don't think that's the etymology, but it is certainly apt.

 

[DrZoidberg]

I was not barking up the wrong tree.
Sex Workers Don’t Trust Kamala Harris
Again, I am cautiously optimistic of her change in position here. She still hasn't said anything about FOSTA, which is a bad law no matter how you feel about sex work which is why the Electronic Frontier Foundation is suing against it on constitutional grounds.

Ehe... anybody trusting any politician is retarded. Obviously she said what she said because she stuck her finger in the air to see which way the wind was blowing and she thinks will get her points with her voting demographic. I wouldn't trust any politician further than I can throw them.

Good people don't become politicians.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

The term 'hooker' has nothing to do with addiction. It almost certainly derives from the area known as Corlears Hook on Manhattan's lower east side, which was notorious for streetwalkers in the early 19th century.

It's popularly believed that the term originated with General Joseph Hooker, who was reputed to have provided brothels for his troops; However the earliest use of the term pre-dates General Hooker's military service.

The term "crack whore", however, does in fact come from women who whore themselves out for crack.

 

[Toni]

Yes, but I don't see your point...

That's clearly willful. I politely asked you a straightforward question regarding one of Derec's points that you had dodged numerous times, and you dodged it again by launching a personal attack. You are clearly not trying to understand anybody else's view, or even examine your own. You are just lashing out. Good for you.

I do not think underage sex workers are fine, and that (and forced adult prostitution) is where police should be doing their jobs. Not trying to bust 77 year old widowers getting hand jobs.

I think you can repeat that 100 more times, and certain folks here won't accept it. You're the bad guy Derec. You are a monster. If some folks here think any better of you they may actually have to look at the points you are making. I don't see that happening any time soon.

Jolly, you cannot demand that I follow you down whatever rabbit hole you lay out and call it bad on my part if I decline.

It is not my fault if you cannot or will not follow logic or stick to the topic of this thread.

Derec is addressing what he terms hypocrisy on the part of Kamala Harris for taking a specific position that he doesn't like. He doesn't like it because it is inconvenient to him, personally. He is not discussing the fact that slavery and near slavery conditions exist across a spectrum of industries and why isn't Kamala Harris addressing that (in this different political stance). He's pretty silent on that or was until you brought it up.

I'll tell you what: I'd welcome a thread from either of you about the slavery/near slavery that exists in a number of industries, not merely the sex industry and how such practices can best be eliminated and all workers be treated fairly and afforded freedom and dignity.

For my part, I've stated repeatedly that for a long time, I truly believed that legalized prostitution was a better way to handle the sex industry. But the more I read, the less convinced I have become. In countries where prostitution has been legalized, there still exists a thriving sex trade involving the unwilling and underaged. In fact, that aspect of the business model grows when prostitution is legalized. THAT is what has changed my mind.

I'm not going to waste my time looking up the many links I've posted in the past. You don't read them or if you do, you don't believe them. You don't offer any counter evidence or statistics. You just don't agree and you like to call people who don't agree with you nasty names.

FWIW, I'm actually rather fond of Derec and I truly wish him well and happiness in his life. Politically, we don't agree very often. That does not mean that I cannot be fond of him.

As far as personal insults: that's your method and Derec's and that of some other posters. I don't see how me pointing out that Derec engages in an activity that he thinks is perfectly fine is insulting to him. I never suggest that he's a bad person but I have said that I think he conveniently ignores some of the implications of his preferences. We all do that. But we don't all have hissy fits every time someone disagrees with our choices because we believe and post links to evidence that those choices cause serious harm to real people. Or maybe you don't really see prostitutes as real people.

 

[Toni]

Drug addiction is actually an interesting analogy. I think it could be argued that having sex with hookers is very addictive; hence the name "hooker". Guys get hooked on them. That actually goes for the whole sex industry. Its really sad how some guys "fall in love" with or truly get hooked on a sex worker or sex workers in general. And its amazing how good some of the girls get at messing with their heads.

That makes a willing self-employed prostitute both a "victim" and "pusher" in the eyes of different people. Maybe both in the eyes of some.

I am more in tune with Kamala Harris's actual position, which is that there is a good argument for government regulation of the market for sexual services. The main point is that it actually be a consensual relationship in which minors and adults are not exploited by third parties.

Absolutely agree with this. I hope she holds to this position. It would put you a step ahead of Canada, which did fall down the nordic model rabbit hole (though I don't think its being enforced).

The term 'hooker' has nothing to do with addiction. It almost certainly derives from the area known as Corlears Hook on Manhattan's lower east side, which was notorious for streetwalkers in the early 19th century.

It's popularly believed that the term originated with General Joseph Hooker, who was reputed to have provided brothels for his troops; However the earliest use of the term pre-dates General Hooker's military service.

The term hooker came into wide use during and after the American Civil War when the term Hooker's girls was used to describe the prostitutes that followed General Hooker's men on their journey.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

For my part, I've stated repeatedly that for a long time, I truly believed that legalized prostitution was a better way to handle the sex industry. But the more I read, the less convinced I have become. In countries where prostitution has been legalized, there still exists a thriving sex trade involving the unwilling and underaged. In fact, that aspect of the business model grows when prostitution is legalized. THAT is what has changed my mind.

But that one is a solvable problem. It just requires a mindset on the part of the authorities that even though the prostitution industry is legal, vigorous enforcement of the nefarious aspects of the industry are still required.

For instance, up here in Toronto, there is a constant stream of news stories about cops arresting people for sex trafficking and exploiting underaged victims. However, I could not find a single instance over the past few years where customers of or workers at legitimate escort services got charged with anything. The cops seem to be making a significant effort to target the exploitative parts of the industry while ignoring the consensual parts of it. That's a contrast to a place like Amsterdam where the authorities really don't seem to devote any resources to it at all and the raping of sex slaves goes completely unpunished.

It just takes the police realizing that the increased safety and security brought about by legalized prostitution has a distinct downside associated with it and resources need to be devoted to mitigating that downside.

 

[Toni]

For my part, I've stated repeatedly that for a long time, I truly believed that legalized prostitution was a better way to handle the sex industry. But the more I read, the less convinced I have become. In countries where prostitution has been legalized, there still exists a thriving sex trade involving the unwilling and underaged. In fact, that aspect of the business model grows when prostitution is legalized. THAT is what has changed my mind.

But that one is a solvable problem. It just requires a mindset on the part of the authorities that even though the prostitution industry is legal, vigorous enforcement of the nefarious aspects of the industry are still required.

For instance, up here in Toronto, there is a constant stream of news stories about cops arresting people for sex trafficking and exploiting underaged victims. However, I could not find a single instance over the past few years where customers of or workers at legitimate escort services got charged with anything. The cops seem to be making a significant effort to target the exploitative parts of the industry while ignoring the consensual parts of it. That's a contrast to a place like Amsterdam where the authorities really don't seem to devote any resources to it at all and the raping of sex slaves goes completely unpunished.

It just takes the police realizing that the increased safety and security brought about by legalized prostitution has a distinct downside associated with it and resources need to be devoted to mitigating that downside.

And yet—that has not happened yet. That change in mindset that would result in police and the justice system and society st large to value women and children and gay boys and young men enough to think that it was not only wrong, but criminally wrong to abuse women and children and young gay boys and men.

There’s too much greed, too much entitlement.

You tell me HOW we address the attitudes that allow us to blame the victims, or to look the other way and pretend it’s not a problem.

 

[southernhybrid]

For my part, I've stated repeatedly that for a long time, I truly believed that legalized prostitution was a better way to handle the sex industry. But the more I read, the less convinced I have become. In countries where prostitution has been legalized, there still exists a thriving sex trade involving the unwilling and underaged. In fact, that aspect of the business model grows when prostitution is legalized. THAT is what has changed my mind.

It's true that legalization doesn't end sex trafficking, but I've read that it's down about 10 percent where it's been legalized. Perhaps we have read different sources of information Toni. The primary benefit of legalization is to the sex workers. They are the ones who are usually arrested and prosecuted where their work is illegal. I've studied this in detail and I support legalization, but it should also be regulated. It would be best if sex workers were also licensed. A short course to obtain the license would include practicing safe sex, and self defense. Imo, the age of a legal sex worker should be at least 21, since teenagers really aren't mature enough to make the decision to choose this line of work. Due to science, we now know that the human brain isn't even fully matured until around the age of 25. If the work was legal, a woman could decide if she wanted to be self employed or work for a large brothel, such as the ones in Nevada. Some of the women in this line of work want it to be regulated and licensed.

I've read the blogs and discussion boards of sex workers. Most of them like their work. Some say that while they don't really enjoy their work, it sure beats working for low wages as a waitress or a cashier. I also learned that there are sex workers who only or primarily serve handicapped people. Some of these handicapped folks would never have the opportunity to experience sexual intimacy if it weren't for sex workers. There are some who serve both men and women. While it's not a career that I would have ever chosen, I don't judge the women who choose this line of work. And, the women want to be referred to as sex workers, not hookers or prostitutes. Another thing is that while there are both male and female sex workers, this is the one area of work where the women have the potential to make far more money than the men.


There are some feminists who disagree with me. That's fine. I can disagree with people that I like and respect, without any difficulty. But, I am not a one issue voter, and never will be. That's where I would disagree with Derec. I could be wrong, but he gives me the impression that he won't vote for anyone who doesn't want sex work to be legalized, even if he agrees with their other positions. I don't think this will ever be a federal issue in the US. It will most likely always be a state issue, and considering that Derec and I live in a state that is still very religious and backwards when it comes to things like this, it's doubtful that sex work will ever become legal in Georgia in my lifetime.

 

[Toni]

For my part, I've stated repeatedly that for a long time, I truly believed that legalized prostitution was a better way to handle the sex industry. But the more I read, the less convinced I have become. In countries where prostitution has been legalized, there still exists a thriving sex trade involving the unwilling and underaged. In fact, that aspect of the business model grows when prostitution is legalized. THAT is what has changed my mind.

It's true that legalization doesn't end sex trafficking, but I've read that it's down about 10 percent where it's been legalized. Perhaps we have read different sources of information Toni. The primary benefit of legalization is to the sex workers. They are the ones who are usually arrested and prosecuted where their work is illegal. I've studied this in detail and I support legalization, but it should also be regulated. It would be best if sex workers were also licensed. A short course to obtain the license would include practicing safe sex, and self defense. Imo, the age of a legal sex worker should be at least 21, since teenagers really aren't mature enough to make the decision to choose this line of work. Due to science, we now know that the human brain isn't even fully matured until around the age of 25. If the work was legal, a woman could decide if she wanted to be self employed or work for a large brothel, such as the ones in Nevada. Some of the women in this line of work want it to be regulated and licensed.

I've read the blogs and discussion boards of sex workers. Most of them like their work. Some say that while they don't really enjoy their work, it sure beats working for low wages as a waitress or a cashier. I also learned that there are sex workers who only or primarily serve handicapped people. Some of these handicapped folks would never have the opportunity to experience sexual intimacy if it weren't for sex workers. There are some who serve both men and women. While it's not a career that I would have ever chosen, I don't judge the women who choose this line of work. And, the women want to be referred to as sex workers, not hookers or prostitutes. Another thing is that while there are both male and female sex workers, this is the one area of work where the women have the potential to make far more money than the men.


There are some feminists who disagree with me. That's fine. I can disagree with people that I like and respect, without any difficulty. But, I am not a one issue voter, and never will be. That's where I would disagree with Derec. I could be wrong, but he gives me the impression that he won't vote for anyone who doesn't want sex work to be legalized, even if he agrees with their other positions. I don't think this will ever be a federal issue in the US. It will most likely always be a state issue, and considering that Derec and I live in a state that is still very religious and backwards when it comes to things like this, it's doubtful that sex work will ever become legal in Georgia in my lifetime.

We must have read different sources. I was more than a little shocked to read that there was a increase in trafficking in areas where prostitution is legal. I had not expected that at all.

I definitely see a niche for sex workers for those who are unable to enjoy intimacy through other kinds of relationships.

FWIW, one can earn pretty good money as a waitress.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

And yet—that has not happened yet. That change in mindset that would result in police and the justice system and society st large to value women and children and gay boys and young men enough to think that it was not only wrong, but criminally wrong to abuse women and children and young gay boys and men.

There’s too much greed, too much entitlement.

You tell me HOW we address the attitudes that allow us to blame the victims, or to look the other way and pretend it’s not a problem.

Not really a response to my post and only tangentially related to the issue of legalization of prostitution. I'm going to decline to go down whatever rabbit hole you're talking about there and stick to the subject matter instead.

Illegal prostitution leads to a lot of dead and beaten prostitutes, along with a large and unregulated market of sex slavery. Legalizing prostitution greatly decreases the amount of dead and beaten prostitutes (hence all the prostitution groups constantly saying how if the various white knights absolutely insist on rescuing them, this is the way they would prefer to be rescued), but it does create as a byproduct a larger illegal market of sex slaves to cater to the greater interest in and acceptance of the industry by customers without a correspondingly sufficient increase in the number of women working in it at the prices people want to pay. That can be offset by devoting policing resources to this nefarious aspect of the industry while still allowing the legal and consenting adult prostitutes to not die quite so often as they do in alternative scenarios.

 

[Toni]

And yet—that has not happened yet. That change in mindset that would result in police and the justice system and society st large to value women and children and gay boys and young men enough to think that it was not only wrong, but criminally wrong to abuse women and children and young gay boys and men.

There’s too much greed, too much entitlement.

You tell me HOW we address the attitudes that allow us to blame the victims, or to look the other way and pretend it’s not a problem.

Not really a response to my post and only tangentially related to the issue of legalization of prostitution. I'm going to decline to go down whatever rabbit hole you're talking about there and stick to the subject matter instead.

Illegal prostitution leads to a lot of dead and beaten prostitutes, along with a large and unregulated market of sex slavery. Legalizing prostitution greatly decreases the amount of dead and beaten prostitutes (hence all the prostitution groups constantly saying how if the various white knights absolutely insist on rescuing them, this is the way they would prefer to be rescued), but it does create as a byproduct a larger illegal market of sex slaves to cater to the greater interest in and acceptance of the industry by customers without a correspondingly sufficient increase in the number of women working in it at the prices people want to pay. That can be offset by devoting policing resources to this nefarious aspect of the industry while still allowing the legal and consenting adult prostitutes to not die quite so often as they do in alternative scenarios.

I’m sorry. I really did think I was responding to your post.

Can you please post some links that support your claims that legalization reduces assaults and murders of prostitutes?

I won’t ask you to explain why it us that the legal system takes seriously crimes against legal prostitutes but not crimes against illegal prostitutes.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

It is not my fault if you cannot or will not follow logic or stick to the topic of this thread.

Derec is addressing what he terms hypocrisy on the part of Kamala Harris for taking a specific position that he doesn't like. He doesn't like it because it is inconvenient to him, personally. He is not discussing the fact that slavery and near slavery conditions exist across a spectrum of industries and why isn't Kamala Harris addressing that (in this different political stance). He's pretty silent on that or was until you brought it up.

The bolded is what you keep claiming and repeating to yourself. Its what is enabling you to dodge the actual points he has been making. I tried to put one to you myself to take that excuse away from you, but you just made the same accusations against me.

I'll tell you what: I'd welcome a thread from either of you about the slavery/near slavery that exists in a number of industries, not merely the sex industry and how such practices can best be eliminated and all workers be treated fairly and afforded freedom and dignity.

Not by outright banning the entire industries. Can we agree on that? Or will you refuse to answer still? You wouldn't outright ban maid services, the garment industry, and mining right? You do know how fraught these industries are with all sorts of human rights abuses right? I think taking this away from the sex industry context, and putting it in any other of these industries, you'd call for regulation and cracking down on abusers. You're not a monster, after all. Guess what, neither am I and neither is Derec and neither is Tom or Copernicus or southernhybrid.

For my part, I've stated repeatedly that for a long time, I truly believed that legalized prostitution was a better way to handle the sex industry. But the more I read, the less convinced I have become. In countries where prostitution has been legalized, there still exists a thriving sex trade involving the unwilling and underaged. In fact, that aspect of the business model grows when prostitution is legalized. THAT is what has changed my mind.

You haven't brought us on this journey with you. I'm not convinced that you were convinced by studies that were well put together and unbiased. I suspect this is more like "smoking never hurt anyone" studies funded by tobacco companies. My mind is open though. Everything I have read points towards little if any effect overall, sometimes positive and sometimes negative. I would put the onus on those seeking to ban an entire industry though, and I would set a very high bar, since we are talking about the sexual freedom of people (the ones who are not abused).

I also suspect that you and I have very different senses of the percentages of women in the sex industry who are not there willingly. You think it a very high number, yes? I know some who work in it, who I met during case work related to the eventual Bedford decision, and my experience is the opposite. To me it was telling when Harper's hearings when deciding on the new anti-prostitution legislation invited numerous religious and anti-sex abuse groups but refused to hear much of anything from sex workers themselves.

I'm not going to waste my time looking up the many links I've posted in the past.

I don't expect you to. But I do expect you to engage in conversation without making wild accusations of motive against people so you can brush aside their points.

As far as personal insults: that's your method and Derec's and that of some other posters.

It can be. But seriously, go back and review the thread. It was you who started with the nasty accusations and name calling here against Derec. He wants prostitution legal and ignores victims of trafficking just to get his rocks off? Really? He even attempted to brush this aside a few times explaining and re-explaining his actual position that he doesn't agree making the whole industry illegal helps these girls. I agree with him on that. So do many. But to you it just means he doesn't care about victims.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Can you please post some links that support your claims that legalization reduces assaults and murders of prostitutes?

Ya, try every other thread on the topic. I won't be googling anything about prostitution at work to repost links, but it's basically about their being able to screen clients, interact with them without having to meet them in risky places, have a regulated work environment and a whole bunch of other stuff. You can start by searching anything said by any sex workers' rights organization ever if you're interested in ignoring them on your own.

I won’t ask you to explain why it us that the legal system takes seriously crimes against legal prostitutes but not crimes against illegal prostitutes.

Well, that's good because I never made any such claim, so not having to explain something I'm not arguing makes things easier for me. I don't really know what you're saying here.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

And yet—that has not happened yet. That change in mindset that would result in police and the justice system and society st large to value women and children and gay boys and young men enough to think that it was not only wrong, but criminally wrong to abuse women and children and young gay boys and men.

I completely disagree with this. Who in particular are you accusing? Everyone? Society in general? No. Abuse of children, gay boys and men, women, and men, and anyone else is wrong. Society knows this. Corruption exists, but it is corruption. It isn't mainstream accepted culture. And if we didn't go chasing after consenting adults, and didn't have such sex-negative preachy religious or quasi-religious attitudes about sex, a lot more of this could be brought into the open and a lot more resources could be freed up to rescue the abused. As Tom noted, this is already happening in Toronto pretty well. The folks I know who work in the sex industry here haven't been and don't know anybody who has been arrested, despite the law having changed to make their activities (well those of their clients) illegal. The police have their priorities right.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

I've studied this in detail and I support legalization, but it should also be regulated. It would be best if sex workers were also licensed. A short course to obtain the license would include practicing safe sex, and self defense.

And STD testing. Have legalized brothels where they can work and make them known so johns can use them without fear of getting into trouble or of supporting sex trafficking etc.

It really isn't that complicated. Legalize, regulate, and you can even tax. You could support women's shelters with the tax revenue.

I've read the blogs and discussion boards of sex workers. Most of them like their work. Some say that while they don't really enjoy their work, it sure beats working for low wages as a waitress or a cashier.

Exactly. The bigger worry I have for sex workers generally isn't so much pimps, pushers and abusers (they are nowhere near as common as most people think), but getting hooked on the big money (which is often more than they could ever dream of making again in their future lives after this is over). Getting so much money so quick tends to mean dropping out of school, developing tastes and habits that are expensive (and I don't necessarily mean drugs) and developing a giant gap in the resume and work experience. When they age, and can no longer make the quick easy money, some of them hit a figurative brick wall, and that's where the bigger trouble starts for them, in their newfound desperation. We need better support to help people in such situations.

I also learned that there are sex workers who only or primarily serve handicapped people. Some of these handicapped folks would never have the opportunity to experience sexual intimacy if it weren't for sex workers. There are some who serve both men and women. While it's not a career that I would have ever chosen, I don't judge the women who choose this line of work. And, the women want to be referred to as sex workers, not hookers or prostitutes. Another thing is that while there are both male and female sex workers, this is the one area of work where the women have the potential to make far more money than the men.

You sound like you've actually spoken to a few sex workers, or "service providers" as some of them call themselves.

We need to remove the shame from this work. And we need to boost the social safety net and law enforcement against traffickers and abusers so nobody feels forced into it.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Can you please post some links that support your claims that legalization reduces assaults and murders of prostitutes?

Ya, try every other thread on the topic. I won't be googling anything about prostitution at work to repost links, but it's basically about their being able to screen clients, interact with them without having to meet them in risky places, have a regulated work environment and a whole bunch of other stuff. You can start by searching anything said by any sex workers' rights organization ever if you're interested in ignoring them on your own.

Or read the Bedford Decision. The Supreme Court of Canada decision that knocked down the old prostitution laws (before Harper enacted the nordic model).

http://www.pivotlegal.org/canada_v_bedford_a_synopsis_of_the_supreme_court_of_canada_ruling

Or listen to this by Valerie Scott, who was one of the sex workers in the Bedford et al case. Here she reviews some research, as you requested.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zDqmedFE_Q[/youtube]

 

[Toni]

And STD testing. Have legalized brothels where they can work and make them known so johns can use them without fear of getting into trouble or of supporting sex trafficking etc.

Johns seem to have zero problem locating prostitutes now. Even in my small town, I am pretty sure I can take you right to several places where one could find a hooker if one was looking for one. If I could find a prostitute, I'm damn sure every cop in town knows who is in the trade and where they are and what they are doing and with whom. And yet no one is ever busted for prostitution in my town. And it's a small enough place that absolutely everything makes it to the local paper. You call the police because your dog is missing? It's in the news paper. A fire alarm goes off because your neighbor forgot to turn off the burner under their skillet? It's in the newspaper. Some 54 year old man gets caught in a sting targeting would be customers of 15 year old prostitutes? Definitely in the paper with pictures. You get pulled over for a broken tail light and the cop smells pot? In the paper. You get the police at your house for a domestic assault? In the paper. You get caught shoplifting $10 worth of junk from Walmart: in the paper. Drugs of all kinds, public intoxication, drunk and disorderly and DUIs? All in the paper. Abuse of a child: in the paper.

STD testing is available now and for free for those who need it at no cost.

STD testing at brothels protects clients only, not the prostitutes.

There is nothing--not one goddamn thing that prevents any of the protections you suggest from being in place now. Except that it cuts into the profit margins of those who exploit sex workers.