Louisiana mandates 10 Commandments In Schools

[Person19960]

Reuters reports on Justice Anti-Abortion Amy. They don't mention her faith.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-su...ve-power-favors-narrower-approach-2024-07-04/

OPENLY STRIDENT'​

Liberals remain skeptical of Barrett.

"The hope that Justice Barrett will serve as a moderating presence on her more openly strident colleagues will remain illusory until they heed her call or she sides with the liberal justices on (a) case of major national importance," Devon Ombres of the left-leaning Center for American Progress think tank said.

Barrett is part of the conservative majority that has rolled back abortion rights, widened gun rights, rejected race-conscious university admissions and undercut the power of federal regulatory agencies.

But she generally is considered among the three justices in the court's ideological middle, alongside John Roberts and Brett Kavanaugh, though all three are unmistakably conservative.

She's more moderate than Roberts, maybe, but not on the issues that matter to me.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

If they can't afford Ten Commandments, maybe they'll cross off some of the bad ideas, and make do with Seven or Eight. What's so bad about coveting our neighbor's ass, especially if her BF/Husband comes from an inferior ethnic or political group?

I've been coveting my neighbor's ass ever since she moved in.

I'm kinda envious. We can't keep large animals in my neighborhood.

 

[Emily Lake]

A thought on the Ten Commandments in every school class room. This could start a guerilla counter posting war. Young atheists, gays, feminists, agnostics, Satanists et all, making their own poster at home on the computers and printing them out. Smuggling them into schools and taping them up. Mark 10, Luke 18, Matthew 19. Sell all you have and give to the poor. Matthew 6:5-6. Praying in public is verboten. Small pamphlets to leave at desks or on lockers, especially for Christian proselytizing pests. Or Christian Nationalist teachers. This intrusion of religion in schools might have counter actions not so far anticipated. Student reading a pamphlet: "You mean Jesus tells us we have to sell all we have and give to the poor?! For real!" In a sense this is not new. Our founding fathers had this sort of debate long ago. Which is why America was founded as a secular nation.

Cheerful Charlie for President

 

[ideologyhunter]

My approach to the poster war is a little different. I base it on the observation that few people these days like to spend much time with linear print, especially reading long Bible passages, and especially if they belong to today's slacker youth. So, why not stick with the Bible but mix some Bible books together? (Just to see how long it takes for the screaming to start.)
What harm is there in combining a little of Proverbs 31 with a little of Ezekiel 23?

"A good wife, who can find? She is far more precious than jewels. The heart of her husband trusts in her, Yet she increased her harlotry, remembering the days of her youth, when she played the harlot in Egypt...and doted on her lovers, whose male members were like those of asses and whose emissions were like those of stallions."

It's all from God's word, which means it "is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness." (2 Timothy 3) And sometimes, for size queens.

 

[Emily Lake]

How has this not been challenged on constitutional grounds yet?

 

[Politesse]

How has this not been challenged on constitutional grounds yet?

It takes a while to build a case, where constitutional law is concerned. If you want it to stick. I imagine many parties are currently searching for a perfect plaintiff.

 

[ideologyhunter]

Also, has it even taken effect yet? There may be a standing issue if it doesn't take effect until schools reopen in Sept.

 

[ZiprHead]

I believe the authors know it will be struck down. It's an election year stunt.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

I believe the authors know it will be struck down. It's an election year stunt.

One thing is certain, we know they aren't a bunch of puritans. I'd be worried if they were.

 

[Shadowy Man]

I believe the authors know it will be struck down. It's an election year stunt.

Do they though? With the current makeup of the court I’m not convinced it’s certain.

 

[Politesse]

I believe the authors know it will be struck down. It's an election year stunt.

One thing is certain, we know they aren't a bunch of puritans. I'd be worried if they were.

Puritans? I doubt any of the authors of this bill have even read the Book they are setting as an icon of state.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

I believe the authors know it will be struck down. It's an election year stunt.

One thing is certain, we know they aren't a bunch of puritans. I'd be worried if they were.

Puritans? I doubt any of the authors of this bill have even read the Book they are setting as an icon of state.

The Puritans had their own ideas of what "The Book" was telling them, which made them rather unpopular with certain people. And they weren't wrong at all, just using their "Book" to say what they wanted it to say.

But I agree, they're not puritan in the sense that they actually ever read their book. Can we call them neopuritans?

 

[ZiprHead]

I believe the authors know it will be struck down. It's an election year stunt.

One thing is certain, we know they aren't a bunch of puritans. I'd be worried if they were.

Puritans? I doubt any of the authors of this bill have even read the Book they are setting as an icon of state.

The Puritans had their own ideas of what "The Book" was telling them, which made them rather unpopular with certain people. And they weren't wrong at all, just using their "Book" to say what they wanted it to say.

But I agree, they're not puritan in the sense that they actually ever read their book. Can we call them neopuritans assholes?

FTFY

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

How has this not been challenged on constitutional grounds yet?

Actually various organizations are lining up to do exactly that. ACLU, FFRF, and more.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

I believe the authors know it will be struck down. It's an election year stunt.

One thing is certain, we know they aren't a bunch of puritans. I'd be worried if they were.

Puritans? I doubt any of the authors of this bill have even read the Book they are setting as an icon of state.

The Puritans had their own ideas of what "The Book" was telling them, which made them rather unpopular with certain people. And they weren't wrong at all, just using their "Book" to say what they wanted it to say.

But I agree, they're not puritan in the sense that they actually ever read their book. Can we call them neopuritans?

And just how hated were the Puritans and Oliver Cromwell?

Oliver Cromwell's head - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[bilby]

I believe the authors know it will be struck down. It's an election year stunt.

One thing is certain, we know they aren't a bunch of puritans. I'd be worried if they were.

Puritans? I doubt any of the authors of this bill have even read the Book they are setting as an icon of state.

The Puritans had their own ideas of what "The Book" was telling them, which made them rather unpopular with certain people. And they weren't wrong at all, just using their "Book" to say what they wanted it to say.

But I agree, they're not puritan in the sense that they actually ever read their book. Can we call them neopuritans?

And just how hated were the Puritans and Oliver Cromwell?

Oliver Cromwell's head - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Oliver Cromwell was hugely popular in his lifetime, at least in London. Pepys is quite clear about this.

His son was deeply unpopular, and once the people threw Richard out and brought back the King, everybody who didn't want to be hanged fell over themselves to point out to anyone who would listen how much they had always hated Oliver Cromwell.

The Parlimentary Army defeated Charles I in large part because they recruited more soldiers. Those young men weren't flocking to join Oliver's Army because he was unpopular.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

I think Cromwell's Head would be a great name for a slightly disreputable pub.

 

[bilby]

I think Cromwell's Head would be a great name for a slightly disreputable pub.

It was.

https://www.gloucestershirepubs.co.uk/pubs/cromwells-head-175-barton-street/

 

[bilby]

There also used to be a pub in the village of Cromwell, on the Great North Road near Newark called "The Oliver". So the address was:

The Oliver,
Cromwell
NG 23

In the '80s, the new landlord (who had no sense of humour) changed the name to "The Oliver Cromwell".

It's long since closed, after Cromwell was bypassed by the A1(M); Though there is still a brewery in the village. Lots of those old pubs on the Great North Road are gone, and the remainder are struggling, since the motorway was built and took away their passing trade. The Bell at Stilton (where Stilton cheese got its name) only survives by being a conference and wedding centre as well as a pub and hotel.

I am not sure how we got from Louisiana mandating the ten commandments in schools to nostalgia for the heyday of British pubs and inns on the Great North Road, but as I have now mentioned the OP, this post is officially not a derail.

 

[Politesse]

Louisiana had not been successfully colonized by any Christian power, in Cromwell's time, though various individual Christians had conducted slave raids into its lower reaches. The lovable rascals. There's a reason the state prefers stunts like this to the actual teaching of religious history; Jesus arrived in Louisiana atop waves of innocent blood. Better to keep the conversation limited to antique massacres in Judea.