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No, I was wondering what those sheets looked the way that they did.
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Probably Hillary Clinton's email server or Hunter Biden's laptop.
I wouldn't know. I'm assuming they knew what they were doing, but I could be giving them too much credit.
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There are now rumors floating around that there are other secret documents Trump had stashed at other sites than Mar-A-Lardo. I don 't take that too seriously, but with Trump, nothing is impossible.
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I think it’s more likely than not. Putler probably offered up some of his very finest hiding places.
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I rolled my eyes at "legally unsupported raid" and then burst out laughing at "on the home of a President."
When I regained my composure and wiped down my keyboard, I had a thought. I'm willing to bet his lawyers originally wrote "on the home of a former President" but he forced them to take that one word out. Then I scrolled down and noticed that they called him former President further down the page, but he probably had stopped reading at that point.
They said "home of a President" again later in the filing, but IIRC (and IANAL) but apart from Secret Service protection, is the home of a former President provided special legal protection against search and seizure?
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I...I just can't. Republicans are actively waging a war on satire. They must be stopped.
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Interesting. It occurs to me they aren't making the argument that it was legal for him to have because he didn't lose the election.
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I've not been following this news too carefully. Did I miss something?
How do we know Trump was planning to pass on nuclear documents?
Speculation from WaPo. Some of the shorthand on the coversheets suggest the classification of TS-SCI is of a nuclear nature.
Doesn't the Secret Service have access to all surveillance of Mar-a-Lago during and after Trumps presidency? I'm confident that they do and the FBI already have a subpoena for all the footage in the works if not already obtained the footage from the CIA investigating potential foreign agents.
Or am I getting ahead of myself? I always think the government is much faster than us and our media when it comes to these things.
Or am I getting ahead of myself? I always think the government is much faster than us and our media when it comes to these things.
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We don't know. All we know for sure is he had some classified documents. We don't know the contents, let alone whether he shared them with anyone or was planning to.
Jason likes to play weird games that only amuse a party of one.
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Trump had/has had classified documents in his possession as a private citizen. Nobody knows why. It's very possible that even Trump doesn't know why; maybe he just likes to have classified documents in his possession as a private citizen. It's also possible that he has been trading American secrets for little trinkets like $2billion in Saudi cash for Jared and Princess.
If you're a responsible official charged with maintaining a level of national security, you have no choice but to assume the latter until it can be eliminated as a possibility. This isn't one of these "you can't prove he was jaywalking, so why are you investigating?" kinds of things.
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I think we can infer from the fact that the FBI took the unprecedented step of serving a warrant and searching his home while he was away that they knew at least some of the contents and were extraordinarily concerned about them falling into the wrong hands. Well...more wrong than Trump's. Again, if they did their homework (and the FBI is good at that sort of thing), they first got with the National Archives and any relevant intelligence agencies and said "okay...what's missing?"
They'd know because as I mentioned above, those kinds of documents don't leave the secure room where they're stored without someone signing off on them...even if it's only to take them into another room to look them over. So the feds knew what was missing, what had been returned, and what was still out there. Depending on the nature of the documents - the SCI ones and human intelligence ones in particular - we may never know even the general contents. What remains to be seen now is whether or not the FBI finally has everything that was missing.
If it turns out they don't, then either Trump has the remaining material squirreled away at one of his other properties, or they're already gone.
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Narcissism and egotism are often a handicap when defending oneself in court.
"The prosecution are only showing that blurry video of me running out of the bank to make out that I was too stupid to plan my escape, but what the jury needs to understand is that I did have a getaway car, but it was parked around the corner."
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"and on advice from counsel, I should mention that you can't tell that it's me, and I was somewhere completely different at the time."
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You think we can fool Donald Trump Jr. into Tweeting the emails used to share them?
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I was somewhat surprised that they didn't once mention Wookies.
I didn't know the desk part but it should have been obvious it was because they were mixed in--otherwise they wouldn't have been quickly returned. The warrant specifically included anything found with the classified stuff (better than missing a classified document mixed with a bunch of non-classified stuff), it came as no surprise at all the passports got scooped up. I would expect important papers to be with important papers.
Yeah, my first reaction to 217,217,217 was photoshop. They were covering something up which is of absolutely no surprise given that it was classified material. I could accept 152,155,150 for the picture frame being natural assuming it's one sample and not the whole frame being exactly the same color.
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The picture-frame color - (152,155,150) - was only one sample. I moused over it and I got (149,155,150) for top left, (146,151,147) for top right, and (116, 117, 114) for bottom right. Actually, that was not a picture frame, but the picture backing. If the picture was smaller than the frame, the backing would look like some extra frame. The frame proper was a wood color.