March for women. A message from Conservatives

[whichphilosophy]

A book is not a religion. Not only does the Koran not equal Islam, your opinion about what's in the Koran is absolutely irrelevant to how any Muslim practices their religion, unless you are the Muslim.

So women claiming this is a religious issue are confusing this with a culture which predates Islam.

That any religious practice may predate a religion doesn't make the practice non-religious. And even if so, whether it's from culture or religion is irrelevant, as if you could separate the two, the effect is the same.

What a load of old nonsense. it's like saying that an Engineering Standard in Mechanical Engineering does not relate to Mechanical Engineering. The Koran is the cornerstone of Islam. Islamic scholars look into the Koran to define Islam.

Sorry, Witchy Poo, a science text is nothing like a religious text to their respective users. And whatever the Koran says, Muslims are free to apply it to their religion as they see fit. If you were right, there would only be one version of Islam or any religion based on a book, but in fact there are numerous contradictory sects.

Some Muslims reject all the other writings and think the Koran is the only source.

Yet some Muslims don't, which proves my point.

The other sources are interpretations of the source. Muslims are free to practice Islam but the Koran is the original document.

 

[whichphilosophy]

If only feminists had the courage of their supposed convictions.

What makes you think they don't?

One particular group I remember. It was back in the ancient days of 2001 - BEFORE 9/11 - I decided to videotape a program that was to be shown on PBS about a group I'd never heard of called "The Taliban".

Apparently, women's groups in the US, one of them led by Mavis Leno (yes, that Leno), a famous feminist herself, was working with women in Afghanistan and trying to make the horrendous conditions for women there more public so as to get them help. She was trying to get in to meet with President G. Bush to see what the US could do about pushing for sanctions, etc.

So, if you think feminists don't fight for Muslim women, you must not know very much about feminist groups.

What about what is happening now?

 

[Toni]

I think there are a few posters here accusing feminists of not caring about women in Islamic countries merely because they, the posters, are utterly unaware of what feminists have done and are currently doing to improve conditions for people everywhere.

I think that they are simply trying to make feminists defensive and waste time trying to defend/answer all of these ignorant, baseless claims. I don't think they are worth acknowledging in the least.

 

[rousseau]

I think there are a few posters here accusing feminists of not caring about women in Islamic countries merely because they, the posters, are utterly unaware of what feminists have done and are currently doing to improve conditions for people everywhere.

Anybody who talks about 'feminists' as if they're a single, homogeneous group, has already admitted not knowing a thing about feminism, or what they do.

 

[PyramidHead]

I just want to interject that being referred to as one of the 'sheeple' has made me soberly reconsider my views on the matter, and has not at all caused me to wonder whether I was reading the notebook margin scrawlings of a 14 year-old emo kid rather than the thoughtful commentary of a mature adult. By deftly combining the words 'sheep' and 'people' to produce a new word, whichphilosophy has subtly employed the keenest rhetorical flourish to hoist me by my own petard, and has definitely not de-legitimized any point he was trying to make by repeatedly embarrassing himself through the use of a tired, cringeworthy meme. I hope that he will continue to impress me with his command of the relevant facts, and certainly don't hope he loses the ability to use his typing hands in an accident at a factory that manufactures wool pink hats.

 

[Angry Floof]

I just want to interject that being referred to as one of the 'sheeple' has made me soberly reconsider my views on the matter, and has not at all caused me to wonder whether I was reading the notebook margin scrawlings of a 14 year-old emo kid rather than the thoughtful commentary of a mature adult. By deftly combining the words 'sheep' and 'people' to produce a new word, whichphilosophy has subtly employed the keenest rhetorical flourish to hoist me by my own petard, and has definitely not de-legitimized any point he was trying to make by repeatedly embarrassing himself through the use of a tired, cringeworthy meme. I hope that he will continue to impress me with his command of the relevant facts, and certainly don't hope he loses the ability to use his typing hands in an accident at a factory that manufactures wool pink hats.

 

[laughing dog]

What about what is happening now?

Well, you are now just gibbering away.

 

[whichphilosophy]

What about what is happening now?

Well, you are now just gibbering away.

It relates to the last point of the poster. The answer to my question about present time justices being addressed by the rainbow coalition of Feminists, LBGT, Monty Pythn, Muslim activists, plus other pink hats was answered with a historic event not a present time event.

Basically it would be so refreshing to see the feminist and Muslim activists say one sentence against Saudi mistreatment of women or the UAE laws which allow a man to beat his wife but not to injure or kill.

Anyway shall I hold my breath?

 

[bilby]

Well, you are now just gibbering away.

It relates to the last point of the poster. The answer to my question about present time justices being addressed by the rainbow coalition of Feminists, LBGT, Monty Pythn, Muslim activists, plus other pink hats was answered with a historic event not a present time event.

Basically it would be so refreshing to see the feminist and Muslim activists say one sentence against Saudi mistreatment of women or the UAE laws which allow a man to beat his wife but not to injure or kill.

Anyway shall I hold my breath?

Please do.

Check back here every hour or two, and I will let you know when to stop.

 

[whichphilosophy]

I think there are a few posters here accusing feminists of not caring about women in Islamic countries merely because they, the posters, are utterly unaware of what feminists have done and are currently doing to improve conditions for people everywhere.

Anybody who talks about 'feminists' as if they're a single, homogeneous group, has already admitted not knowing a thing about feminism, or what they do.

Feminism is one of the greatest advances in our history, when you consider that around 100 years ago women didn't have the vote. Feminists do actually protest against the treatment of women in Islamic and other countries but these rallies seem to be short on producing such condemnations. I hope I am wrong and wait for something that happened during these marches.

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It relates to the last point of the poster. The answer to my question about present time justices being addressed by the rainbow coalition of Feminists, LBGT, Monty Pythn, Muslim activists, plus other pink hats was answered with a historic event not a present time event.

Basically it would be so refreshing to see the feminist and Muslim activists say one sentence against Saudi mistreatment of women or the UAE laws which allow a man to beat his wife but not to injure or kill.

Anyway shall I hold my breath?

Please do.

Check back here every hour or two, and I will let you know when to stop.

I can only hold it for a minute or so.

 

[laughing dog]

Well, you are now just gibbering away.

It relates to the last point of the poster.

You are mistaken - gibberish does not relate to anything the last poster wrote.

The answer to my question about present time justices being addressed by the rainbow coalition of Feminists, LBGT, Monty Pythn, Muslim activists, plus other pink hats was answered with a historic event not a present time event.

Basically it would be so refreshing to see the feminist and Muslim activists say one sentence against Saudi mistreatment of women or the UAE laws which allow a man to beat his wife but not to injure or kill.

Why do you feel the need to tell women what they think or what they must protest. However, it is not hard to google this stuff:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/femen-topless-saudi-arabia-women-driving-ban-517644]

Anyway shall I hold my breath?

Instead of holding your breath, educate yourself before you post.

 

[TSwizzle]

Clutching her head in her hands as she is struck across the back, an Indonesian woman is forced to endure 26 agonising lashes as punishment for having sex outside of marriage. The woman along with the man she was accused of having sex with, faced the brutal punishment as having sex outside of wedlock is against strict Sharia law. Pictures show how the woman was forced to kneel on the ground on the public stage in front of a mosque in Indonesia's Aceh province.

DailyMail

I hope the sisterhood is knitting extra pink hats, there is a long battle ahead of them.

 

[whichphilosophy]

It relates to the last point of the poster.

You are mistaken - gibberish does not relate to anything the last poster wrote.

The answer to my question about present time justices being addressed by the rainbow coalition of Feminists, LBGT, Monty Pythn, Muslim activists, plus other pink hats was answered with a historic event not a present time event.

Basically it would be so refreshing to see the feminist and Muslim activists say one sentence against Saudi mistreatment of women or the UAE laws which allow a man to beat his wife but not to injure or kill.

Why do you feel the need to tell women what they think or what they must protest. However, it is not hard to google this stuff:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/femen-topless-saudi-arabia-women-driving-ban-517644]

Anyway shall I hold my breath?

Instead of holding your breath, educate yourself before you post.

About what?

If I am ignorant of the Women's march about mistreatment of women in some Islamic societies I am awaiting news. This issue is silent.

 

[Arctish]

If I am ignorant of the Women's march about mistreatment of women in some Islamic societies I am awaiting news. This issue is silent.

You don't know a thing about the different groups, organizations, and individuals who participated in the Women's March, do you?

It appears you haven't even tried to find the answers to your questions. Instead you want people to prove that feminists have met a standard you've set for them, and you feel free to keep shifting the goalposts.

Here's a list of groups that partnered in organizing and participating in the Women's March. As you can see, some of them, like the Coalition Against Gun Violence and the National Women's Health Network, aren't known for making public statements regarding the treatment of women in Islamic countries. But some of them, like Women for Women International and Amnesty International, certainly are.

Your demand that feminists meet the standards you set for them before you listen to what they're saying is indicative of your own failure to take women's concerns seriously, not theirs.

 

[laughing dog]

About what?

Women's groups, feminists, how to stay on point and how to avoid posting gibberish.

If I am ignorant of the Women's march about mistreatment of women in some Islamic societies I am awaiting news. This issue is silent.

Wow, you really do think you need to tell women what to think and what to protest.

 

[Toni]

Women's groups, feminists, how to stay on point and how to avoid posting gibberish.

If I am ignorant of the Women's march about mistreatment of women in some Islamic societies I am awaiting news. This issue is silent.

Wow, you really do think you need to tell women what to think and what to protest.

There are always men--or creatures who believe they are men but who are only stunted males who cannot quite reach the actual maturity of manhood with all the responsibilities that such entails but who only feel powerful if they are telling some woman or women what to do and how to do it and all the ways they aren't quite satisfying whatever demands these...persons feel it is their right to set forth and command. They aren't worth any response--not even a pitying laugh of derision.

 

[bilby]

Women's groups, feminists, how to stay on point and how to avoid posting gibberish.
Wow, you really do think you need to tell women what to think and what to protest.

There are always men--or creatures who believe they are men but who are only stunted males who cannot quite reach the actual maturity of manhood with all the responsibilities that such entails but who only feel powerful if they are telling some woman or women what to do and how to do it and all the ways they aren't quite satisfying whatever demands these...persons feel it is their right to set forth and command. They aren't worth any response--not even a pitying laugh of derision.

Actually, I think you'll find that they are worth a pitying laugh of derision; But don't take my word for it, ask your husband if you are not sure.

 

[Toni]

There are always men--or creatures who believe they are men but who are only stunted males who cannot quite reach the actual maturity of manhood with all the responsibilities that such entails but who only feel powerful if they are telling some woman or women what to do and how to do it and all the ways they aren't quite satisfying whatever demands these...persons feel it is their right to set forth and command. They aren't worth any response--not even a pitying laugh of derision.

Actually, I think you'll find that they are worth a pitying laugh of derision; But don't take my word for it, ask your husband if you are not sure.

I've actually never been so sure in my life. They are just too sad and pathetic to even laugh at anymore.

Your wife can explain it to you.

 

[Angry Floof]

Women all over the world are standing up for women. Period. Some are international in their scope, some are not. Some focus on specific issues and legal matters, some are more general. Some are regressive left and believe that criticizing other cultures is taboo. Some just think we should take care of our own business even while condemning misogynistic beliefs and laws everywhere. Some of the marchers last week were there to support women's issues, but their main motivation was the dangerously stupid and bigoted moron and his ilk who now run our nation and have already begun efforts to dismantle democratic safeguards and benefits of citizenship that the morons don't even fucking comprehend.

You guys reek of desperation with these pitiful (but revealing) comments. It's like a bunch of 14 year olds have been told that women have developed teeth in our vagoos that we plan to use to bite off the testicles of all 14 year old boys and no one can stop us. Most 14 year olds would recognize the stupidity of this immediately but there's always going to be that percentage whose lives operate under fear of the delicate parts being shamed by women. Come cry to me when having testicles decides whether you get a job or a raise or you feel unsafe walking to your car in broad daylight because some owners of the other sexytime parts can't control their childish leering, and it doesn't matter what their intentions are if you don't know what their intentions are. Almost every girl and woman who live outside of a cave experiences situations of this nature on a regular basis. Women know what men do to women routinely in our society and others, and we wish our fears were merely about you shaming our pussies. Even when men truly are discriminated against for no other reason than that they have testicles, it's just as wrong, but subjugation of men isn't ingrained into the substrate of our society.

Not everyone is equipped to adapt successfully to a fast changing world where no one is in charge. The bonds between women around the world are strengthening. We're adapting.

 

[whichphilosophy]

Women's groups, feminists, how to stay on point and how to avoid posting gibberish.
Wow, you really do think you need to tell women what to think and what to protest.

There are always men--or creatures who believe they are men but who are only stunted males who cannot quite reach the actual maturity of manhood with all the responsibilities that such entails but who only feel powerful if they are telling some woman or women what to do and how to do it and all the ways they aren't quite satisfying whatever demands these...persons feel it is their right to set forth and command. They aren't worth any response--not even a pitying laugh of derision.

I only used to receive comments when I was single and trying to impress women on a first date.

I would never dream of telling tell women how to protest. However, wouldn’t it be so-o-o nice if some took a few minutes off from tilting at windmills this is such a golden opportunity to also highlight human rights violations against Women in some Middle Eastern countries.

As I mentioned the Koran doesn’t mandate the Burqa, but men do this for women. Women are entitled to wear what men determined they wear. However where is the support for their sisters abroad who don’t all want to wear it?

I also mentioned a lot of irrelevant groups in the UK. If you look the UK Website you can see the groups involved. What on earth is the English Prostitute’s Collective to do with the price of peas?